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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy Moreno View Post
    He's just taking baby steps towards his new life.

    We must be there for him. Well, up to a point.
    Who wants to go shoe shopping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Who wants to go shoe shopping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Am with Izzy the pic doesnt look right.
    Maybe it was really THIS "Britney"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    FORD and I have sparred over this before.

    White suburbanites cryin' about how bad they got it? Yeah...fuck those guys.
    I recently watched a bio on Cobain. What a fucked up upbringing he had. Understandable that he ended up with some personality disorders...

    The young man was a seriously talented artist though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    am with izzy the pic doesnt look right.
    no way?!?!?!?!?
    Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Who wants to go shoe shopping?
    fine.

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    This was put out by the pride of Bill Grahem before he died tragically. It's a path that could have been taken, rather than grunge.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9-iFXmzl1M

    But back to the subject at hand. Van Halen Rising is an amazingly detailed accounting of one of my previous ('78 to '83) preoccupations. It is also one of the fastest books I've ever read. Thank you Mr. Renoff.

    P.S. How many of you are kicking yourself for not thinking of documenting, err - I mean writing, something like VHR yourselves? I'll bet most of us here have the passion to do it.
    VHR fills a huge void.

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    Greg has the degree in history to actually pull off the fact-checking and unearthing of witnesses and facts that he did. The reason why the book didn't exist before is no one could get the facts straight; even within the band itself. He also has the writing ability to present everything he discovered. Passion is great, but execution is just as important.

    I'm glad Greg did it, because he was one of the best people TO do it.

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    Just got it...great read...funny to read that they hated each other then like they do now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Maybe it was really THIS "Britney"?


    People watching that must think he is actually singing live which is bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beavrtek View Post
    How many of you are kicking yourself for not thinking of documenting, err - I mean writing, something like VHR yourselves? I'll bet most of us here have the passion to do it.
    VHR fills a huge void.
    I'd been kicking around screenplay ideas for fun for the past 10 years or so, working solely with the most known facts of the early days. Thought their story on up through December of '77 would make a great Independent film. Now, thanks to VHR, I think a Netflix series may be in order. At least one season. Easily.

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    Would it be that interesting?

    I saw the Def Leppard movie and it was pretty dull even although band members were losing limbs and dying.

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    I think it would be, and based on this last tour's age spectrum turn out, I'd say that if properly done, it could generate an interest for a fairly wide demographic.

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    Def Leppard has a movie? What's it called?

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    I think it was on VH1.
    Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Def Leppard has a movie? What's it called?
    Can't remember the name, but as you can imagine - it was horrible.
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    Did they find a one armed guy or did they just CGI it out?

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    they just taped it behind his back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Def Leppard has a movie? What's it called?
    Duh - Hysteria

    It was kinda boring. Except for the part where the drummer is dreaming he's in the studio and Mutt is pushing him harder and harder to play and his arm starts bleeding like its about to fly off. That was pretty cool. Oh and the scene of him standing there in some English field with his arm ripped off was cool too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    they just taped it behind his back
    Like a Trannie!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Duh - Hysteria

    It was kinda boring. Except for the part where the drummer is dreaming he's in the studio and Mutt is pushing him harder and harder to play and his arm starts bleeding like its about to fly off. That was pretty cool. Oh and the scene of him standing there in some English field with his arm ripped off was cool too.
    goddam it! now i won't watch it. thanks for ruinin' the surprise

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    How did I miss this movie?

    Did our own "Rick Allen's Left Arm" make an appearance?

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    They just stepped you through the story of the band which was tiresome.

    The Doors movie could have been boring self obsessed addict writes some high school level poetry does some gigs and then dies so it's all in constructing a narrative around events. I suspect the best biographical movies are the ones that concentrate on the story rather than the facts which annoys me as well so I'm not a big fan of them all though there are some exceptions. I was actually pretty annoyed with American Sniper after reading up on the real story afterwards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    How did I miss this movie?

    Did our own "Rick Allen's Left Arm" make an appearance?
    he was a stunt arm

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    It's on YouTube...



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    What's with that foreign subtitle shit?

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    it's for the portuguese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    What's with that foreign subtitle shit?
    You'll be speaking it soon enough unless you get your giant wall built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You'll be speaking it soon enough unless you get your giant wall built.
    Oh no you din't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You'll be speaking it soon enough unless you get your giant wall built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatArtGuy View Post
    Greg has the degree in history to actually pull off the fact-checking and unearthing of witnesses and facts that he did. The reason why the book didn't exist before is no one could get the facts straight; even within the band itself. He also has the writing ability to present everything he discovered. Passion is great, but execution is just as important.

    I'm glad Greg did it, because he was one of the best people TO do it.

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    I'm not so sure that Greg had any more of an ability to get the "facts". If you look at the list of credits at the end, a good portion of the book is comprised of previously published material... from a relatively recent period. A majority of the people that interacted with VH back in that era are still breathing and will likely talk your ear off if given the opportunity.

    However, I suppose the bottom line is this:
    GR actually did it. He did an admirable job... and talk is cheap.

    Which reminds me. How many guitarists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You'll be speaking it soon enough unless you get your giant wall built.
    We're gonna shoot plane tickets to Scotland over our wall once it's completed, send all them Mexicanos your way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    We're gonna shoot plane tickets to Scotland over our wall once it's completed, send all them Mexicanos your way!
    We built a wall to keep the scots out, they were stealing our jobs and making us eat haggis

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    We built a wall to keep the scots out, they were stealing our jobs and making us eat haggis
    well, build one they can't step over...


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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    We built a wall to keep the scots out, they were stealing our jobs and making us eat haggis
    I like Haggis! Love it, in fact.

    Never thought Irish cuisine could be so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    well, build one they can't step over...

    The skirts they wear give them surprisingly good mobility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    well, build one they can't step over...

    Scotsmen are 2foot tall FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Scotsmen are 2foot tall FACT
    Maybe, despite the mobility that the skirts would grant them, they didn't want to give the Romans a free peek up their skirts while they clambered over that tiny wall.

    Or, they were too drunk to climb it. Every time they tried to get a leg over, they'd fall down.

    I'm leaning more towards the latter. I bet being a sentinel at the wall was a riot, seeing all those drunk Scots trying to negotiate a waist-high wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    We're gonna shoot plane tickets to Scotland over our wall once it's completed, send all them Mexicanos your way!
    A few months of Fuhrer Trump and he'll need a wall to keep you in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    A few months of Fuhrer Trump and he'll need a wall to keep you in...
    Oh please, I just ordered a full set of Hugo Boss uniforms. Once he builds that wall I ain't never leaving!!

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