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    Tar Sands Pipeline = Game over for the whole fucking planet

    Bill McKibben, 350.org & Anthony Swift, Natural Resource Defense Council (NRDC) both join Thom Hartmann. There is no rational argument for the tar sands pipeline. The town of Mayflower, Arkansas woke up to oil running through its streets again today - all thanks to a pipeline that burst and flooded the town with thousands of gallons of oil. With devastating oil spills becoming increasingly common in America - why is President Obama still even considering the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline?


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    Nah...

    You're on the wrong side of this issue...
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    I think the Keystone is stupid. We need to be refining it ourselves and become less dependant on foreign oil.
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    When I see people using the term "tar sands" it says a lot of how little they now about this piece of Alberta...and Saskatchewan.

    Oil spills like this are ridiculous to say the least...but...the oil is going to move regardless of Keystone.
    You would think this day and age that this could be stopped a lot quicker...the only positive is here it will get cleaned up...not gonna happen in Africa.

    The oil sands oil moves now...by rail...worse for the environment I may add.

    I agree with Angel...we should be building our own refineries but it seems it is cheaper to send it to Texas for refining rather than expand here.

    For the record...I find it odd that the enviros would rather pick on safe Canada about oil but not other unethical counties and the human toll...but that could get you killed.

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    I get a kick out if the American news emphasizing Canadian oil, while Canadian stations emphasize American pipeline, lol.

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    The pipeline that burst in Arkansas was built in 1943... Here's some history on it...

    LITTLE ROCK, AR - We're learning more about the pipeline that's to blame for oil flowing through the streets in a Mayflower subdivision Friday afternoon.

    ExxonMobil says the line is called Pegasus. The 20-inch pipeline originates in Illinois and carries oil to the Texas Gulf Coast. It runs from northeast Arkansas down through the southwest part of the state. (map from leadenergy.org)

    According to a report from Bloomberg news, the line can transport 96,000 barrels of oil a day. In most cases, the oil comes from Western Canada. The line's capacity was dramatically increased from 30,000 barrels a day in 2009.

    The pipeline reportedly carries tar sands oil, according to the same Bloomberg report sourced above. The Sierra Club, an environmental action group, calls tar sands the "dirtiest oil on earth."

    ExxonMobil says the pipeline has leak detection technology. According to the company, the technology helped the pipeline operate in a "safe and environmentally responsible manner."



    Click here to read the official statement on the rupture from ExxonMobil.

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    A pipeline was built from Texas to Illinois as part of the war effort in 1943. It passed near Little Rock. Is this actual pipe the same one? Is the pipe itself 70 years old? Here's a video about the wartime construction in Arkansas: This may take you to a video of work on it in Arkansas: http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65...ctive-covering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    I get a kick out if the American news emphasizing Canadian oil, while Canadian stations emphasize American pipeline, lol.
    Yeah, the nationalization by the media on this issue needs to stop. It's all just a big corporate scam designed to steal tax payer money from both countries for the sole purpose of importing this sludge to China.
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    More interesting oil info...

    OIL - You better be sitting down when you read this!



    As you may know, Cruz Construction started a division in North Dakota just six months ago.

    They sent every Kenworth (nine trucks) we had here in Alaska to North Dakota and several drivers.

    They just bought two new Kenworth's to add to that fleet; one being a Tri Drive tractor and a new 65-ton lowboy to go with it.

    They also bought two new cranes (one crawler & one rubber tired) for that division.

    Dave Cruz said they have moved more rigs in the last six months in ND than Cruz Construction moved in Alaska in the last six years.

    Williston is like a gold rush town; they moved one of our 40-man camps down there since there are no rooms available.

    Unemployment in ND is the lowest in the nation at 3.4 percent, last checked.

    See anything in the national news about how the oil industry is fueling North Dakota's economy?

    Here's an astonishing read of important and verifiable information:

    About six months ago, the writer was watching a news program on oil and one of the Forbes Bros. was the guest.

    The host said to Forbes, "I am going to ask you a direct question and I would like a direct answer. How much oil does the U.S. have in the ground?"
    Forbes did not miss a beat, he said, "more than all the Middle East put together."

    The U. S.. Geological Service issued a report in April 2008 that only scientists and oil men knew was coming, but man was it big.

    It was a revised report (hadn't been updated since 1995) on how much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota,
    western South Dakota, and extreme eastern Montana.

    Check THIS out:

    The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since
    Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay , and has the potential to
    eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable ( 5 billion barrels), at $107 a barrel, we're looking at a resource base worth more than $5.3 trillion.

    "When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their jaws hit the floor."

    They had no idea.." says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyst.

    "This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56 years," reports The Pittsburgh Post Gazette .

    It's a formation known as the Williston Basin, but is more commonly referred to as the 'Bakken.'

    It stretches from Northern Montana, through North Dakota and into Canada.

    For years, U. S. oil exploration has been considered a dead end.

    Even the 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago.

    However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's massive reserves, and we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels. And because this is light, sweet oil, those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL !!!!!!

    That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight.

    And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then this next one should - because it's from 2006 !!!

    U.. S. Oil Discovery - Largest Reserve in the World

    Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006

    Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world.

    It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction.

    In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted.

    With this motherload of oil, why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?

    They reported this stunning news:

    We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.

    Here are the official estimates:

    8 times as much oil as Saudi Arabia,

    18 times as much oil as Iraq,

    21 times as much oil as Kuwait,

    22 times as much oil as Iran,

    500 times as much oil as Yemen,

    and it's all right here in the Western United States !!!

    HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil!
    Again, we are letting a small group of people dictate our lives and our economy. WHY?

    James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we have more oil in this very compact area
    than the entire Middle East, more than 2 TRILLION barrels untapped. That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today, reports The Denver Post .

    Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price even with this find? Think again! It's all about the competitive marketplace, it has to.

    Think OPEC just might be funding the environmentalists?

    Got your attention yet? Now, while you're thinking about it, do this:

    Pass this along. If you don't take a little time to do this, then you should stifle yourself the next time you complain about gas prices. By doing NOTHING, you forfeit your right to complain.

    Now I just wonder what would happen in this country if every one of you sent this to every one in your address book.

    By the way, this can be verified. Check it out at the link below !!!
    http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911> ; <http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asID=1911>http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911<http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911> >

    Cruz Construction:
    http://www.cruzconstruct.com/ ; <http://www.cruzconstruct.com/services..php> ;
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    The point here seems to be that the "oil" (using the term loosely) seems to be for completely foreign (i.e. not Canadian or US) consumption, but the Canadians know they won't get a pipeline for this shit built across the Rockies so they can export it out of BC, which is why they want to send it south to Texas.

    At least Canada would get money out of it. America gets all the damage, and not one cent of profit.

    The fact that this shit barely even meets the definition of "oil", and even then only through a highly toxic process, should be evidence enough that it's not the answer for anything.

    Henry Ford and Karl Benz were designing engines to run on biodiesel 100 fucking years ago (Benz was looking at peanut oil, and Ford not only wanted a hemp fueled engine, he wanted to build a car from hemp too). If every US state and Canadian province that this pipeline of death is proposed in were growing hemp instead of this moving this toxic shit, how much clean fuel could be produced, that could be used in existing engines.

    Sometimes the answer is easier than it looks. This would be one of those times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    - why is President Obama still even considering the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline?


    Because with proper ENFORCED regulation and oversight, and no politicians taking bribes or backroom deals, a pipeline can be built and operated safely with a very low % of spillage. But that isn't how we operate. We take the union labor rather than the best labor. We cut corners to save money. Politicians & regulators look the other way for a sammich bag of cash. Ridiculous. If we could be honest, transparent, and above board we could do this well and all benefit from it with increased jobs and lowed oil prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    More interesting oil info...

    OIL - You better be sitting down when you read this!

    chain e mail spam deleted
    Really... chain e-mails??

    When did you turn into 4morequeers??

    You want to see what KKKoch Brothers money can buy you on the internet? Google the following phrase....

    "The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay, and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil."

    You will see page after page of those exact words reproduced. It's very obviously an oil industry talking point.

    Except it's not true.

    The chain e mail (and most of these KKKoch funded spam sites) make it sound like this is simply a huge pool of light sweet crude oil buried under ground, just as it is in Iraq, or Saudi Arabia, or even Texas for that matter.

    But that ain't the case. This is shale oil. Meaning you need to use the highly destructive and toxic fracking process to get to it. Which means it's no better of a solution than the tar sands.

    Again... NOT the solution. Just a desperate attempt by some of the greediest corporate entities on Earth trying to keep you dependent on 19th century technology, rather than common sense, renewable sources of energy.

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    There are no marketable sources of renewable energy...

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    Fact check: Is the Bakken Formation America's oil bonanza?
    FACT: It is indeed a real place, but other "data" about it isn't right.
    Posted: March 7, 2010 - 4:00am | Updated: March 7, 2010 - 4:38am


    By Carole Fader

    Times-Union readers want to know:

    Something called the Bakken Formation is supposedly the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska's Prudhoe Bay with over 500 billion barrels of oil that would potentially eliminate our dependence on foreign oil. This e-mail goes on to say that we have more oil inside our borders than all the other proven reserves on earth - eight times as much as Saudi Arabia, 18 times as much as Iraq, 21 times as much as Kuwait and so on. And it's the government, environmentalists and the media that are preventing drilling there. True?

    The Bakken Formation is real. The other "facts" in this e-mail and others like it? Not so much.

    The information is overblown and is based on early undocumented predictions.

    The e-mail tells readers to go to the bottom of the page for a link to a 2008 U.S. Geological Survey report that confirms the truth of the information. Reader who go to that report will find it does just the opposite.

    FactCheck.org traced estimates of 200 billion to 400 billion barrels in the Bakken Formation - which stretches over the Dakotas and Montana - to a 2006 Wall Street Journal story about an oil boom on the Montana Plains. But the e-mail leaves out an important part of that story: "The lofty predictions remain unproven and skeptics remain," according to FactCheck.org, a nonprofit fact-finding project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

    FactCheck.org and Snopes.com also reference a 2000 draft report that included estimates of the Bakken oil reserve ranging "from 271 to 503 billion barrels of potential resources in place." But a November 2006 report from the Energy Information Administration warned that the draft "did not receive a complete scientific peer review by the USGS and was not published as a USGS product."

    When the USGS assessed the Bakken Formation in 2008, it estimated it contains "3 billion to 4.3 billion barrels of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil." The agency actually increased its estimate from 1995's 151 million barrels, but the number is still far short of the e-mail's purported 500 billion barrels.

    Snopes.com, a well-respected Web site that confirms or debunks rumors and urban legends, also puts the number into perspective: "The U.S. currently imports an average of about 10 million barrels of oil per day, so even if all the estimated undiscovered oil in the Bakken Formation were extracted, it would only be enough to wean the U.S. off crude oil imports for one year ... not enough to fuel the American economy for 41 years straight as the e-mail claims."

    Snopes.com linked some of the information in this and a similar e-mail to a tout sheet intended to sell subscriptions to an oil investment newsletter. That similar e-mail also breathlessly talks of 2 trillion barrels of oil beneath the Rocky Mountains. The figure comes from a 2005 RAND Corp. study. But, again, the e-mail omits that not all of that oil is recoverable and that extracting 1 million barrels a day is probably more than 20 years in the future.

    Back to the Bakken. The USGS states on its Web site that there is no certain method to determine the exact volume of oil in the Bakken Formation or any formation.

    But, according to the USGS, "the estimate of technically recoverable oil in the Bakken is larger than all other current USGS oil assessments of the lower 48 states and is the largest "continuous" oil accumulation ever assessed by the USGS.

    No one is putting a stop to drilling in the Bakken. About 190 million barrels of oil has been extracted from it since the 1950s and as of August 2009, according to the USGS Web site.

    The USGS has all currently available information on the Bakken Formation at energy.cr.usgs.gov/oilgas/noga/.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    There are no marketable sources of renewable energy...
    Dragonshit.

    Like I said, biodiesel was marketable a century ago. Hemp can be grown damn near anywhere, and can be grown continuously on the same land. Once you drill a clean pool of oil, (or destroy a piece of land to extract it from the shale) it's gone forever.

    Which is the more logical course of action?

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    Wasn't aware it's a mass e-mail thing... but also the government web links support this. Plus current industry updates in sourcing frac'ing oil/gas sources are growing exponentially.

    Two of my kids and several close friends work in the oil & gas industry... mostly associated with the Fayetteville Shale gas play here in Arkansas. So I can speak almost first hand to this activity n our community.

    After 5+ years of active frac'ing in our area I can tell you it's not the evil doom and gloom deal opponents are making it out to be. The biggest negative impacts have only been rapid wear and tear on local roadways that weren't designed for heavy 18 wheeler truck traffic. There's been no fouling of well water nor sub-surface sources. The frac'ing occurs thousands of feet below available surface water pools.

    Probably a slight uptick in air pollution due to increased trucking activity... but this is heavily forested area so it's mostly feeding the trees here with carbon.

    Upside... natural gas prices have fallen significantly as supply has exploded. Y'all might have noticed that on your heating bills. The huge influx of money both from the industry invading but also from royalties and infrastructure upgrades to support all this activity has produced tons of jobs and tax revenue. The poor economy isn't dragging this area down.

    I think we need to develop and exploit all the energy sources we can... plus drive clean energy deployment as well. If we can break dependance on foreign oil and become a source to other parts of the world... great. Bring it on!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    Because with proper ENFORCED regulation and oversight, and no politicians taking bribes or backroom deals, a pipeline can be built and operated safely with a very low % of spillage.
    Tell that to the people of Arkansas


    But that isn't how we operate. We take the union labor rather than the best labor.
    Union labor IS the best labor. The reason there is so much cheap disposable bullshit out there today is because it's all mass produced Chinese crap made in sweatshops by people making 20 cents an hour.

    We cut corners to save money. Politicians & regulators look the other way for a sammich bag of cash. Ridiculous. If we could be honest, transparent, and above board we could do this well and all benefit from it with increased jobs and lowed oil prices.
    So then let's repeal Shittizens United, bring back the Fairness Act, the Sherman antitrust act and repeal everything else done to destroy democracy since 1980. I'm all for that.

    But even if we did all of the above, it does not change the fact that petroleum burning engines are 19th century technology, and that the supply of USABLE oil is just about gone. Rather than fucking up the environment of the whole North American continent with a toxic process attempting to turn tar or shale into oil, why not simply STOP using this crap altogether and move on with something better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Wasn't aware it's a mass e-mail thing... but also the government web links support this. Plus current industry updates in sourcing frac'ing oil/gas sources are growing exponentially.

    Two of my kids and several close friends work in the oil & gas industry... mostly associated with the Fayetteville Shale gas play here in Arkansas. So I can speak almost first hand to this activity n our community.

    After 5+ years of active frac'ing in our area I can tell you it's not the evil doom and gloom deal opponents are making it out to be. The biggest negative impacts have only been rapid wear and tear on local roadways that weren't designed for heavy 18 wheeler truck traffic. There's been no fouling of well water nor sub-surface sources. The frac'ing occurs thousands of feet below available surface water pools.

    Probably a slight uptick in air pollution due to increased trucking activity... but this is heavily forested area so it's mostly feeding the trees here with carbon.

    Upside... natural gas prices have fallen significantly as supply has exploded. Y'all might have noticed that on your heating bills. The huge influx of money both from the industry invading but also from royalties and infrastructure upgrades to support all this activity has produced tons of jobs and tax revenue. The poor economy isn't dragging this area down.

    I think we need to develop and exploit all the energy sources we can... plus drive clean energy deployment as well. If we can break dependance on foreign oil and become a source to other parts of the world... great. Bring it on!!
    That's exactly this area, even more so I'm sure...

    The worst part is the damage to the road surface...

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    Consumer Watchdog Report Shows Keystone XL Raises American Gas Prices
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    Midwest Pump Prices Hardest Hit By Pipeline Development

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    SANTA MONICA, CA –The Keystone XL pipeline will raise gasoline prices in the United States, hiking prices at the pump 20 to 40 cents per gallon in the Midwest, with no long-term economic benefit to the U.S. economy, says a new report by Consumer Watchdog.

    The report finds that:

    Drivers, especially in the Midwest, would pay 20 cents to 40 cents more at the pump if the disputed pipeline were built, as the current discount of up to $30 a barrel for Canadian oil disappears.
    The true goal of multinational oil companies and Canadian politicians backing the pipeline is to reach export outlets outside the U.S. for tar sands oil and refined fuels, which would drive up the oil’s price.
    With U.S. oil production rising fast, any “energy security” benefit for the U.S. would vanish as American oil output exceeds that of Saudi Arabia in about 2020, according to the International Energy Agency.

    The report, produced by Research Director Emeritus Judy Dugan and independent energy analyst Tim Hamilton, utilized industry data, public records and company documents. Access the report, charts and graphics here: http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/site...tonexl_cwd.pdf

    “Keystone XL is not an economic benefit to Americans who will see higher gas prices and bear all the risks of the pipeline,” said report author Judy Dugan. “The pipeline is being built through America, but not for Americans.”

    “A vote for Keystone is a vote to raise gas prices on Americans and send the profits to a foreign oil company,” said clean-energy investor Thomas Steyer, one of America’s most successful businessmen. Steyer, who won two campaigns for clean energy in California, has signed the "Giving Pledge" and is devoting the majority of his financial resources to clean energy research and causes. "The Consumer Watchdog reports makes clear that the Keystone XL Pipeline will lead to higher prices for American drivers at the pump and increased profits for foreign oil interests at a time when our U.S. economy is still in recovery.”

    The report also found that Canadian crude oil currently being sent to the Midwest from Canada would be easily diverted to Keystone XL to satisfy overseas demand.

    Much of the Canadian oil would go directly to Gulf Coast refineries owned by the same multinational companies investing in tar sands, said the report. These companies include Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Koch Industries, Marathon Oil and Shell Oil, said the report. Gulf refineries would refine the tar sands crude oil into diesel oil, which is in high overseas demand, and gasoline for export.

    Price hikes at the pump are likely to hit as far as California. Canada is the second-largest exporter of crude to the West Coast region, just behind Ecuador. California refiners are taking action to import and use more Canadian oil.

    Political leaders in the Canadian province of British Columbia have officially opposed plans for a major new tar sands oil pipeline from Alberta through their province to the Pacific Coast. Two other similar proposals may meet the same fate, and are certainly years in the future. This Canadian opposition increases the motivation of tar sands investors and developers and to get Keystone XL built as sure access to overseas markets.

    “Any reduction of deliveries to Midwest refineries would crimp gasoline supply, further driving up pump prices, and Keystone XL’s backers want to move cheap oil out of the Midwest,” said report author Judy Dugan. “Many major Midwest refineries have also made expensive changes to maximize their use of the tar sands oil and could not operate as efficiently using different grades of oil from other sources.”

    While the pipeline developers have insisted that the pipeline would create tens of thousands of jobs, they have offered no proof of substantial jobs created beyond construction and maintenance of the pipeline itself.

    The conclusion of the report is: “U.S. consumers should be wary of the Keystone XL pipeline--not just for substantial environmental and safety reasons, but because it threatens their wallets. Given the fleeting benefits of construction jobs, the unprovability of long-term benefits and the negative effect of higher gasoline costs on consumers, Keystone XL is no economic boon to the United States. U.S. consumers and the overall economy would bear the substantial risks of the pipeline without measurable permanent benefit.”

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    That is just fucked.

    More propaganda from the Rockefeller foundation.

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    Fuck Ed Schultz in his false-Democrat sellout ass

    This guy started out as a Repuke Limpdick wannabe.... seemed to make a genuine move to Democratic populism in recent years, but now he is completely 100% shilling for this toxic death Keystone XL pipeline which will triple the KKKoch Brothers ridiculous ill-gotten wealth (they profit from both ends of the goddamned thing), destroy the entire midwest of the US, and not provide ONE SINGLE FUCKING DROP OF OIL OR GASOLINE FOR AMERICA, because it's all going to India and China. It would be easier for the pipeline to go across Canada, but the Canadian people know better. They can't get away with this shit up there (But the longer they keep Little Stevie around, the more likely it will become)

    Fuck this hideous project. Fuck anyone who supports it, and especially fuck anybody who claims to be a Democrat while doing so. I'll never listen to your goddamned radio show again, you fucking coward. And I guess that leaves Rachel Maddow as the only Democrat left on the supposedly "liberal" MSNBC........


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    Schultz was always a Koch sucker who unlike most of the people around here has recently come out of the closet. So why is this a surprise to you? I remember when I first heard this F A T wheezing bag of shit how he loved to waddle his F A T ass on liberal issues with a conservative slant. He's a fence-sitting moderate, a liar, and has one annoying voice. How this asshole thrives amazes me.
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    Defend this, Ed.... you piece of shit.


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    Beavis Schultz wants to see FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! from a corrosive toxic pipeline


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    I thought Schultz was on primetime msnbc a year or two back shouting from the rooftops about how terrible keystone was? What changed?
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    Goddamned if I know, Doc

    I seem to remember him saying the same thing, as much as he tries to deny taking sides before now.

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    Goddamned if I know, Doc

    I seem to remember him saying the same thing, as much as he tries to deny taking sides before now.

    Yeah, there's no doubt he was first against it....

    But after listening to his rationale below, I have to say IMO it's the lesser of two evils....

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    Indigenous Groups: 'No Keystone XL Pipeline Will Cross Our Lands'



    Published on Wednesday, February 5, 2014 by Common Dreams
    Indigenous Groups: 'No Keystone XL Pipeline Will Cross Our Lands'
    Native American communities along proposed route vow resistance against 'black snake' pipeline
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    Native American communities are promising fierce resistance to stop TransCanada from building, and President Barack Obama from permitting, the northern leg of the Keystone XL pipeline.

    "No Keystone XL pipeline will cross Lakota lands," declares a joint statement from Honor the Earth, the Oglala Sioux Nation, Owe Aku, and Protect the Sacred. "We stand with the Lakota Nation, we stand on the side of protecting sacred water, we stand for Indigenous land-based lifeways which will NOT be corrupted by a hazardous, toxic pipeline."

    Members of seven Lakota nation tribes, as well as indigenous communities in Idaho, Oklahoma, Montana, Nebraska and Oregon, are preparing to take action to stop Keystone XL.

    “It will band all Lakota to live together and you can’t cross a living area if it’s occupied,” said Greg Grey Cloud, of the Rosebud Sioux Tribe, in an interview with Aboriginal Peoples Television Network. “If it does get approved we aim to stop it.”

    The indigenous-led 'Moccasins on the Ground' program has been laying the groundwork for this resistance for over two years by giving nonviolent direct action trainings to front-line communities.

    "We go up to wherever we've been invited, usually along pipeline routes," said Kent Lebsock, director of the Owe Aku International Justice Project, in an interview with Common Dreams. "We have three-day trainings on nonviolent direct action. This includes blockade tactics, and discipline is a big part of the training as well. We did nine of them last summer and fall, all the way from Montana to South Dakota, as well as teach-ins in Colorado and a training camp in Oklahoma."

    "We are working with nations from Canada and British Columbia, as well as with the people where tar sands are located," Lebsock added.

    "As an example of this nonviolent direct action," explains Lebsock, in March 2012 people at the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota held a blockade to stop trucks from transporting parts of the Keystone XL pipeline through the reservation.

    In August 2013, members of the Nez Perce tribe blockaded megaloads traveling Idaho's Highway 12 to the Alberta tar sands fields.

    Descendants of the Ponca Tribe and non-native allies held a Trail of Tears Spiritual Camp in Nebraska in November to prevent the construction of the pipeline.

    More spiritual camps along the proposed route of the pipeline are promised, although their date and location are not yet being publicly shared.

    The promises of joint action follow the U.S. State Department’s public release on Friday of the Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS). This report has been widely criticized as tainted by the close ties between Transcanada and the Environmental Resource Management contractor hired to do the report.

    While the oil industry is largely spinning the report as a green-light for the pipeline, green groups emphasize that it contains stern warnings over the massive carbon pollution that would result if the pipeline is built, including the admission that tar sands oil produces approximately 17 percent more carbon than traditional crude.

    The release of the FEIS kicked off a 90-day inter-agency review and 30-day public comment period. The pipeline's opponents say now is a critical time to prevent Obama from approving the pipeline, which is proposed to stretch 1,179 miles from Alberta, Canada, across the border to Montana, and down to Cushing, Oklahoma where it would link with other pipelines, as part of a plan to drastically increase Canada's tar sands production.

    The southern half of the Keystone XL pipeline — which begins in Cushing, passes through communities in Oklahoma and East Texas, and arrives at coastal refineries and shipping ports — began operations last month after facing fierce opposition and protest from people in its path.

    "Let's honor the trail blazers from the Keystone XL south fight," said Idle No More campaigner Clayton Thomas-Muller. "Time for some action, and yes, some of us may get arrested!”

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    And after watching that second video, I think Schultz is even more of a fucking sellout and a shill. His arguments are completely shot down by his own guests, and he just keeps cutting them off with KKKoch scripted talking points.

    And I suspect Ed must have a financial interest in this Bakken (rhymes with Frackin') Shale horseshit the way he keeps talking about that, and trying to divert the subject from the toxic tarpits of Alberta.

    Bottom line is that the US gets absolutely NO long term gains from this fucking disaster and a whole shitload of long term damage. It's just not worth it by any measure of the facts, aside from KKKoch propaganda,

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    There's enough oil in the Bakken oil field to run the US for 100 years. We don't need that pipeline. It also would be nice to save our oil for a chemical base instead of burning it for energy. We really need a president to do what John F. Kennedy did with the space program. Issue a ten year challenge to get off of oil. The problem is our politicians are bought and paid for by the people who benefit from oil and wars.

    Henry Kissinger negotiated a deal with the Saudis that the US would not use it's oil supplies and buy from them instead if they only accepted US Dollars as payment. This deal made the dollar the world's currency because other countries had to convert to dollars to buy their oil. It made the Federal Reserve Bank the most powerful bank on the planet since they control the supply of those dollars. Not only did the people in the US get screwed the rest of the world did as well.

    Now with the BRICS nations refusing to trade in US dollars the Federal Reserve Bank has lost 25% of the world's economy. They are losing control of the world. The petro dollar gimmick is done. Time to give the Fed the boot and issue dollars through the US treasury again. Time to use our own oil and hey it's 2014, do we really want to hunt and gather our energy. Maybe the president should make a ten year goal to get on something better. Since the apollo program this country has not had a big project worth while. We just get into war after war feeding the military industrial complex. That shit has to end. I think we are all onto that scam as well. The rest of the world can take care of itself, we don't need to police it and frankly our policing seems to kill a lot of people. Yeah we don't need to spew depleted uranium around anymore.

    As far as Ed Schultz and the media go. They are bought and paid for employees. We went from over 200 media companies in the 1980's down to just five. Then if you look at things deeper they fall under the same conglomerate. We live in the age of monopoly. The government does nothing about it. In fact when Standard and Poors downgraded The Federal Reserve Bank's bond rating since they aren't paying their bondholders, The US Justice Department sued them.

    So the departments that are supposed to regulate this corruption are in on it as well and most the US congress is getting rich insider trading the stock market. Nothing is done. That's where we are.

    The mainstream media is all one big joke. It's bought and paid for. Ed Schultz is earning his check. Who knows what he really is. Rachel Maddow is just an employee. If she doesn't tow the line she's out of a job. Plenty of people on the sidelines wanting her job too.

    The thing is we went from having The News where the reporters stayed politically neutral to having opposing propaganda channels. They want a left vs right media because that helps with the divide and conquer strategy. When you have the liberals and conservatives constantly fighting they are too distracted to see the bankers are taking everything. All they had to do was spend the last 30 years buying up media companies and consolidating them. It's all about consolidation.

    Maybe Ed being a sellout is a good thing. It's making people think for once. Hey something is wrong here. I just can't take MSNBC at face value anymore.
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    You DO realize that frackin' the Bakken is only going to speed up the eruption of that Yellowstone Super Volcano that will make your home town resemble my front yard, right?

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    And it seems like "Big Eddie" has flip flopped yet again on the Death pipeline......



    Was he really somehow clueless about the existence of this aquifer before?

    Doesn't seem likely for a guy who claims Fargo, North Dakota as his home.

    Probably a matter of his ratings tanking when he pissed off his "Liberal" audience.

    As for me, I don't have MSNBC anyway, but I'm not going to be in a big rush to get back to his radio show. Hopefully he's really come to his senses, but he should have fucking known better in the first place.

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    Schultz has always been a sellout...

    I have no idea how you don't see that...

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    Honestly, I never fully trusted the guy....

    When he started out in 2004 (nationally speaking) he was calling himself a "Democrat" but still supportive of the PNAC war agenda (if not so much the Chimp himself) and 100% behind the DLC coronation of Judas IsKerryot.

    I wasn't at all happy when XM radio gave him the 9 AM time slot and delayed Thom Hartmann as a result.

    And there was the KPTK 1090 forum in Seattle in 2006 when he jumped down Mike Malloy's ass, because Malloy dared to question NuttyYahoo bombing the fucking shit out of Lebanon for no valid reason. Schultz accused him of "hating Israel" or some stupid shit like that.

    I liked him a little more in recent years because he seemed to be on the right side of the argument for health care and labor issues. He was willing to accept "Obamacare" as a solution, but he kept at it with the labor stuff, and still opposes the TPP (or the Southern Hemisphere & Asian Trade Agreement - SHAFTA - as Thom Hartmann calls it) to this day.

    But the Keystone Death Pipeline - that's inexcusable. I truly hope he's serious about opposing it now.... but I'm back to being suspicious about what team Ed is playing for.

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