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    Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds

    http://news.yahoo.com/religious-peop...3.html#upCr476

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    Religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades.

    A team led by Miron Zuckerman of the University of Rochester found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies. Even in extreme old age, intelligent people are less likely to believe, the researchers found - and the reasons why people with high IQs shun religion may not be as simple as previously thought.

    Previous studies have tended to assume that intelligent people simply “know better”, the researchers write - but the reasons may be more complex.

    For instance, intelligent people are more likely to be married, and more likely to be successful in life - and this may mean they “need” religion less.

    The studies used in Zuckerman's paper included a life-long analysis of the beliefs of a group of 1,500 gifted children - those with IQs over 135 - in a study which began in 1921 and continues today.

    Even at 75 to 91 years of age, the children from Lewis Terman’s study scored lower for religiosity than the general population - contrary to the widely held belief that people turn to God as they age. The researchers noted that data was lacking about religious attitudes in old age and say, “Additional research is needed to resolve this issue.”

    As early as 1958, Michael Argyle concluded, “Although intelligent children grasp religious concepts earlier, they are also the first to doubt the truth of religion, and intelligent students are much less likely to accept orthodox beliefs, and rather less likely to have pro-religious attitudes.”

    A 1916 study quoted in Zuckerman’s paper (Leuba) found that, “58% of randomly selected scientists in the United States expressed disbelief in, or doubt regarding the existence of God; this proportion rose to nearly 70% for the most eminent scientists.”


    The paper, published in the academic journal Personality and Social Psychology Review, said “Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme—the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who “know better.”
    The answer may, however, be more complex. Intelligent people may simply be able to provide themselves with the psychological benefits offered by religion - such as “self-regulation and self-enhancement,” because they are more likely to be successful, and have stable lives.

    “Intelligent people typically spend more time in school—a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits,” the researchers write. “More intelligent people get higher level jobs (and better employment (and higher salary) may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs.”

    “Last, more intelligent people are more likely to get and stay married (greater attachment), though for intelligent people, that too comes later in life. We therefore suggest that as intelligent people move from young adulthood to adulthood and then to middle age, the benefits of intelligence may continue to accrue.”

    The researchers suggest that further research on the “function” of religion may reveal more.

    “People possessing the functions that religion provides are likely to adopt atheism, people lacking these very functions (e.g., the poor, the helpless) are likely to adopt theism,” the researchers wrote.


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    I bet that was a completely un biased study. Funny thing is there's alot of Jewish people out there with money to burn that would dispute your "facts". And alot of rich Muslims too. Bill Gates is an agnostic which means he hasn't ruled out there is a God and he's not only one of the richest men in the world I'm willing to be his IQ is a tad higher than most atheists. Albert Einstein was a pantheist and some people consider him the smartest man that ever lived.
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    Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds
    http://news.yahoo.com/religious-peop...3.html#upCr476
    For instance, intelligent people are more likely to be married
    I'm calling shenanigans on this study, based on the sentence above alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    I bet that was a completely un biased study. Funny thing is there's alot of Jewish people out there with money to burn that would dispute your "facts". And alot of rich Muslims too. Bill Gates is an agnostic which means he hasn't ruled out there is a God and he's not only one of the richest men in the world I'm willing to be his IQ is a tad higher than most atheists. Albert Einstein was a pantheist and some people consider him the smartest man that ever lived.
    You have religion, intelligence, and money all mixed up here. Gates happens to be smart and rich. Einstein was smart, but not all that rich. (He should have had a patent attorney and he could have made royalties on all those missiles the BCE built in the 80s.)

    Chimp and Romney are rich, but not very smart. Both claim to be religious.

    There's really no connecting one of the three with the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    You have religion, intelligence, and money all mixed up here. Gates happens to be smart and rich. Einstein was smart, but not all that rich. (He should have had a patent attorney and he could have made royalties on all those missiles the BCE built in the 80s.)

    Chimp and Romney are rich, but not very smart. Both claim to be religious.

    There's really no connecting one of the three with the others.
    The "unbiased " study claimed atheist are smarter and make more money than non atheists. I call bullshit.
    I think you have Bush on the brain. I didn't mention him or Romney in my post.

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    I only mentioned those idiots, because you seemed to be equating money with intelligence.

    Chimp and Romney are examples of stupid rich people.

    FORD is an example of a smart guy who is (sadly) not rich.

    And for the record, while I would describe myself as "spiritual" and obviously believe in JC, I am no fan of organized religion at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    I only mentioned those idiots, because you seemed to be equating money with intelligence.

    Chimp and Romney are examples of stupid rich people.

    FORD is an example of a smart guy who is (sadly) not rich.

    And for the record, while I would describe myself as "spiritual" and obviously believe in JC, I am no fan of organized religion at all.
    I based my response on the study that was posted. I'm not a big fan of organized religion either but I have run across true believers who were not into it for the money. My Grandfather was but his brother my Great Uncle was a true believer. He had a small church in LA in a poor part of town and worked a full time job. He wasn't into for the money because he paid the rent on the church out of his own pocket because he never pushed the tithing issue with his members because he knew they were all barely getting by. He's getting close to 100 but he still does a little preaching at his sons church when he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    The "unbiased " study claimed atheist are smarter and make more money than non atheists. I call bullshit.
    I think you have Bush on the brain. I didn't mention him or Romney in my post.
    This is actually research which compiles the results of 63 studies, not one study.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
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    The fifth Muskaqueer fails again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    I based my response on the study that was posted. I'm not a big fan of organized religion either but I have run across true believers who were not into it for the money. My Grandfather was but his brother my Great Uncle was a true believer. He had a small church in LA in a poor part of town and worked a full time job. He wasn't into for the money because he paid the rent on the church out of his own pocket because he never pushed the tithing issue with his members because he knew they were all barely getting by. He's getting close to 100 but he still does a little preaching at his sons church when he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    This is actually research which compiles the results of 63 studies, not one study.
    I don't care how many studies it took . It's bullshit. Everybody knows Jews control the banks and all the money in them. Jews aren't atheists. And Muslims have all that oil. They aren't atheist either. Most of your Mafiosos are Catholic, not atheists. Try telling one of them atheists are more intelligent.

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    Nice anti-semitism there, Socky. Aren't you late for a cross-burning somewhere?

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    Shaddup, blasphemer...

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    Go perform an exorcism with your buddy Piyush.

    And don't defend Jew hating sock rapists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    I don't care how many studies it took . It's bullshit. Everybody knows Jews control the banks and all the money in them. Jews aren't atheists. And Muslims have all that oil. They aren't atheist either. Most of your Mafiosos are Catholic, not atheists. Try telling one of them atheists are more intelligent.
    Well, this post certainly demonstrates your lack of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VetteLS5 View Post
    Where's the elevation in this ^^^ post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    You have religion, intelligence, and money all mixed up here. Gates happens to be smart and rich. Einstein was smart, but not all that rich. (He should have had a patent attorney and he could have made royalties on all those missiles the BCE built in the 80s.)
    You're religious, right?

    Einstein died in 1955 and in any case patents only apply for 20 years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    I guess he doesn't like me...
    I don't hate anyone but I damn sure don't like alot of people around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Nice anti-semitism there, Socky. Aren't you late for a cross-burning somewhere?
    Anti-semitism? Because I said Jews control the cash in this country? That's not an insult. It's a fact, Jack.
    I wish I controlled the cash in this country. I wouldn't be here fucking around with peckerheads like you for damn sure.

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