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    So will the "Birther" cultists go after Teabagging Ted Cruz?

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    Karma...

    I can hear them already..."but, but....(insert any reason why this is different)".
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    So he supposedly renounced his Canadian citizenship. You guys should declare a national holiday for that!

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    Probably the most ironic thing about Teabagging Ted, is you really look at this guy, and I don't think this Cuban fundagelical wackjob preacher guy is his real father at all.

    He's Pat Buchanan's kid. Just look at his dumb face!

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    Now that you mention it, he DOES look like Buchanan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Shark View Post
    Now that you mention it, he DOES look like Buchanan...
    Hadn't noticed that before either, but he totally does!
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    Buchanan was part of the BCE/Nixon gang in the late 60's early 70s. Cuban exiles were closely associated with the BCE/CIA. And apparently the reason Teddy was born in Canada is because his "parents" were working for the oil industry, also connected to the BCE/CIA.

    So it's completely possible that Mr. and Mrs. Cruz..... especially Mrs. Cruz in this case.... might have crossed paths (and other things) with Pat Buchanan.

    As ELVIS would say, hmmmmmmm..........

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    Interesting take on Teabagger Ted's situation over at Democratic Underground......

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    Ted Cruz is not a legal US citizen and he's NOT a dual citizen.

    To be a dual citizen a person must be active in both countries, like doing business or having an active role in both countries. Ted Cruz does not fit that requirement. I was born in Canada & I'm now a LEGAL citizen of the US. I am NOT eligible to be a dual citizen because I am not in business or playing an active role in both countries. Merely visiting Canada does not qualify me OR Ted Cruz to have dual citizenship. Every media source except The Young Turks are ignorant of the citizenship process.

    Ted Cruz's parents FAILED to complete an FS-240 form in Canada to state their son was born to an American mother. Because of this (and subsequent failings described below) Ted Cruz is NOT automatically a US citizen.

    Ref: http://travel.state.gov/law/family_i...birth_593.html

    Ted Cruz also FAILED to apply for US citizenship through the naturalization process where one must first apply, get a background check, give an oath rejecting his allegiance to all foreign nations & stating his allegiance to the US and THEN RECEIVING a US Certificate of Citizenship. Ted Cruz does not have a US Certificate of Citizenship or he would have produced it immediately. Therefore, Cruz is not a legal US citizen.

    Ted Cruz (and his parents), by NOT fulfilling any of the requirements to be a US citizen is not only NOT a US citizen, but he also is ineligible to even be a US senator and should be forced to resign.

    The Constitution, Article 1, Section 3 states anyone who becomes a US senator MUST be a citizen NINE years BEFORE accepting office. Ted Cruz DID NOT fulfill that requirement. That is obvious because Ted Cruz has NO documentation REQUIRED to be a US citizen. Those documents are the FS-240 form that was supposed to be filed out after his birth, a passport that his parents should have applied for when Ted Cruz was a baby or a US Certificate if Citizenship.

    In addition to Cruz's non-US citizen status he is also guilty of voting illegally in US elections because he IS NOT a US citizen and because he failed to fulfill any of the US laws to become a US citizen. By voting illegally Ted Cruz subjected himself to US election laws and should be punished for each violation.

    I wish the media would exert even a minimum of effort to obtain facts before making false equivalencies by comparing Cruz's situation to Obama's and repeatedly using the term liberal birthers. This is a legal issue but no one in the main stream media is treating this as such.

    As an ex-Canadian I was REQUIRED to apply for US citizenship through the naturalization process. Since one of my parents was an American I was entitled to become a US citizen, but there are laws to comply with in order to become a legal citizen. No one born outside the US is automatically a US citizen just because one of their parents is an American. Legal steps must be taken as I've described in this article to become a legal citizen.

    My parents did not complete a FS-240 form (as Ted Cruz's parents failed to do) so as an adult I was required to do it myself. I had to apply for citizenship, have background checks performed, take an oath affirming my only allegiance was to the US and then ultimately receiving a CERTIFICATE OF US CITIZENSHIP. I did what US law required. Ted Cruz and his parents, did not.

    Because Ted Cruz FAILED to comply with US laws before or after entry into the United States he is therefore NOT a legal US citizen.
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023505000

    So there you have it....

    Not qualified to be President. Not qualified to be Senator. Not even legally in this country.

    Deport this asshole back to Cuba (I'm sure Canada doesn't want him)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Interesting take on Teabagger Ted's situation over at Democratic Underground......



    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023505000

    So there you have it....

    Not qualified to be President. Not qualified to be Senator. Not even legally in this country.

    Deport this asshole back to Cuba (I'm sure Canada doesn't want him)
    Take who he is aside...

    Really....in this case or any similar one.

    What does it really matter?

    He has lived in the US since he was four.

    He is yours.

    Suppose he was actually good for your country(I know not necessarily in this case)...why hold it against him?

    You can change any other rule is seems...why not this one?

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    It does seem ironic that this particular rule was written by a bunch of English guys. Granted, some of them may have never actually spent a single day of their lives in England, but they were subjects of old king George regardless.

    I guess what makes this interesting is after all the hysteria about the "goddamned socialist n***er from Kenya" whining from the teabaggers, you don't hear a single word from them about Ted Cruz, who actually admits he was born elsewhere.

    Nor did they have a problem with McCain, who was born in Panama (and not in the US canal zone, even). And when Mittens' daddy George Romney ran for President in the 60's, nobody even mentioned that he was born in Mexico, let alone the reason that he was there was because his grandfather moved there, rather than limit himself to only one wife. Daddy Romney never made it past the primaries, but you would think somebody might have raised the issue?

    I actually have more of a problem with Cruz being tied to right wing extremist Cuban exiles (and therefore, the CIA) and the oil industry, and just his general moronic stupidity than I do his birthplace. But if he can get thrown out of the Senate on a constitutional basis, I'm fine with it.

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    I concur. He's not eligible.
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    I kinda feel like the last 7 years or so, the precedent has been set that we, as citizens, aren't supposed to ask, though. Why on earth did the Obama administration try to avoid the question legally? Dumb dumb dumb. I hope Cruz doesn't get away with it. Then we're just fucked...more than we already are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Buchanan was part of the BCE/Nixon gang in the late 60's early 70s. Cuban exiles were closely associated with the BCE/CIA. And apparently the reason Teddy was born in Canada is because his "parents" were working for the oil industry, also connected to the BCE/CIA.

    So it's completely possible that Mr. and Mrs. Cruz..... especially Mrs. Cruz in this case.... might have crossed paths (and other things) with Pat Buchanan.

    As ELVIS would say, hmmmmmmm..........
    Buchanan was also an anti-Neocon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Buchanan was also an anti-Neocon...
    True, but it seems to be a current trend among politicians kids to be far to the right of what your daddy was.

    i.e. Chimp Bush, Mittens Romney, Evan Bayh, Andrew Cuomo, etc. So Pat Buchanan's bastard son being a neocon wouldn't be that much of a shock. Maybe to Pat, but not to anybody else.

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    Teabagger Ted has some really strange heroes......


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    Editorial: Ted Cruz and the ‘birther’ issue

    http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/ed...ther-issue.ece

    Is he a natural-born citizen or isn’t he? The question has been a nagging part of Barack Obama’s life ever since his first presidential campaign. No amount of birth certificates and sworn statements from state officials in Hawaii, his birthplace, seemed capable of putting the issue to rest. The “birther” movement continues pressing the question even today, five years after Obama’s election to the presidency.

    The question nags anew, but this time Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz is the focus because he was born in Canada to an American mother and Cuban father. By law, his mother’s U.S. citizenship automatically confers natural citizenship to Cruz, just as — for those who continue to doubt the location of Obama’s birth — the citizenship of Obama’s American mother conferred it to him.

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    bump for Kristy..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Shark View Post
    Now that you mention it, he DOES look like Buchanan...
    But half as smart...

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    Why are liberals so concerned about Cruz? He'll be slaughtered in the primaries. All he has to do is open his mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    The question nags anew, but this time Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz is the focus because he was born in Canada to an American mother and Cuban father. By law, his mother’s U.S. citizenship automatically confers natural citizenship to Cruz, just as — for those who continue to doubt the location of Obama’s birth — the citizenship of Obama’s American mother conferred it to him.
    What's so ironic about this is if Cruz was ever elected to office (hypothetically) no doubt he'd sign an executive order banning naturalization for every Latino, Asian, and of course, Muslim born to a US mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Why are liberals so concerned about Cruz? He'll be slaughtered in the primaries. All he has to do is open his mouth.
    That's what we thought about the senile old B movie actor whom they nominated in 1980. And the imbecile in 2000 whose only qualification was sharing his daddy's name (who didn't even get elected, but managed to occupy the White House for 8 years regardless)

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    That's not the same and you know it. Regan was lucky due to Iran helping him get elected. As for Bush, he stole that one. Twice. Cruz is a self-delusional idiot with no clout and no vision other than religious pandering to all the other idiots who the majority of live in the same state as him.

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    Cruz doesn't have a tenth of Reagan's charisma...

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    'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

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    So what you really need is a native american president? Male obviously.

    Policies, education, morality, where you were brought up and abilities are almost irrelevant, it's all about the race.

    A lot of people died fighting against that idea 70 years ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    So what you really need is a native american president? Male obviously.

    Policies, education, morality, where you were brought up and abilities are almost irrelevant, it's all about the race.

    A lot of people died fighting against that idea 70 years ago...
    sesh, we watched people vote for the Kenyan houseboy because of race...

    maybe we lost that one after 70 years............................

    still want to play?

    why did you use the offensive term native american?

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    Obama's Kenyan father was a Harvard graduate who worked as a senior government economist.

    You are saying that if an American has a father like that and then works hard enough to become a professor of law at a top university he is still only fit to clean your home because he is inferior to you because his skin is darker.

    That's sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Obama's Kenyan father was a Harvard graduate who worked as a senior government economist.

    You are saying that if an American has a father like that and then works hard enough to become a professor of law at a top university he is still only fit to clean your home because he is inferior to you because his skin is darker.

    That's sad.
    Daddy bo was a drunk, racist communist. Daddy bo was unfit to wash the dogshit off any American's trash dumpster.
    He blatantly cheated on his whore wife Ann with his Kenyan wife, lost both legs in a drunken car accident and killed a man in another. Daddy bo wasn't part of any airlift. And daddy bo as was the target of an international investigation. This was due to his ties to Kenyan terrorists groups. Daddy bo died in an alcohol-related car accident in Kenya and was buried as a Muslim.

    Here's his socialist paper:

    http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_eastafrica.html

    As a Scot, you notice skin color often. Scotland was as responsible as any other nation for the slave trade to the 'West Indies' for both imports and exports after the American revolution, as evidenced by the Glasgow West India Association.

    sesh, should we cover abolition or what dodge would you like to use next?....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    So what you really need is a native american president? Male obviously.

    Policies, education, morality, where you were brought up and abilities are almost irrelevant, it's all about the race.

    A lot of people died fighting against that idea 70 years ago...
    I knew many WWII vets who were prejudice. They weren't fighting against prejudice. They were fighting because of social pressure. If you weren't in uniform during the war and were an able bodied male you had have better have had a good excuse. I don't think most people thought too deep about what they were actually fighting for and heck the people who were just as prejudice against people of color were prejudice against Germans because the Germans thought they were more superior and were taking over. Some of the people fighting the SS were just a prejudice as the SS were but the SS flew another flag and were on the opposing team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I knew many WWII vets who were prejudice.
    Okay, was this before or after you were flying "choppers" in the C.I.A. with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    Daddy bo was a drunk, racist communist. Daddy bo was unfit to wash the dogshit off any American's trash dumpster.
    Hey monkey, when you gonna dance for me and tell me what Communism and Socialism really mean - without the aid of Google or Wiki? Or some bullshit right wing website you haphazardly stumbled upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Okay, was this before or after you were flying "choppers" in the C.I.A. with them?
    I think you have me mixed up with "Chip" Tatum. I fly fixed wing aircraft.

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    What-the-fuck-ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    As a Scot, you notice skin color often. Scotland was as responsible as any other nation for the slave trade to the 'West Indies' for both imports and exports after the American revolution, as evidenced by the Glasgow West India Association.
    Damn right it was, Scotland was built up on the tobacco from US slave plantations. 3 of the 5 founders of the KKK were of Scottish descent.

    That's just another reason for me to know of and learn from the stupidity and immorality of racism. Hundreds of years later and you don't seem to have moved on at all which is very very sad.

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    I don't see near the racism now that existed when I was a kid. I think the news tends to make it look like a bigger problem than it really is. I saw way worse racism in Asia than I ever did in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Damn right it was, Scotland was built up on the tobacco from US slave plantations. 3 of the 5 founders of the KKK were of Scottish descent.

    That's just another reason for me to know of and learn from the stupidity and immorality of racism. Hundreds of years later and you don't seem to have moved on at all which is very very sad.
    yes, yes.....moved on............racism............KKK............... The Billy Boys..........

    sesh, so are you an irish-scot or perhaps a geordie is in the house? what do you call a white man from africa that shows up and stays in scotland?


    in the usa he would be african american...........

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