He did do option two tho , he toured Europe with tremonti , he can have his cake and eat it .
Though I do think your right that ed now is in a much better place than in 2007.
Though I am curious to wether ed would have gone as heavy on adkot without wolfs more modern less cheese opinions .
fuck your fucking framing
What ?!?!?Originally Posted by Von Halen
I don't care. He's a major reason for fucking up 'da Halen.Damn...that's harsh.
I think a proper rogering would sort you out.
You don't care is right. Why are you on here anyway ? You don't even like the band.
Not if the band is Van Fucking Halen!
Mike never got out of touch with what was important to the fans. A lot of people in his shoes take the fans for granted. Mike always seemed to know people paid a lot of money and drove a long way in to see them He was the most fan friendly member in that band. Yeah he can be cheesy, goofy but listen to Fair Warning and some of the old stuff. He laid down some tasty bass funk.
No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!
OK...fair enough.
But is it really Van Fucking Halen with only 3/4 of the original lineup?
A question for the ages, to be sure....
Originally posted by perilouspete
fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.
Now instead of two Van Halens it's three Van Halens
How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-R
One of which had absolutely nothing to do with crafting the legendary six pack that produced the classic songs the band focused on 95% of the time over their last two tours....
Exactly right. I remember reading an article where he spoke of his involvement in the train wreck of a tour in 2004. He said he basically did that tour for the fans as he was basically a salaried employee on that tour thanks to the brothers and as we all know, that tour wasn't exactly a positive experience for anybody.
I've never bought the 'I only did a shit tour for the fans'. If it was about the fans then he would have announced that Ed wasn't up to it said he was pulling out and that fans shouldn't waste their money.
He should just be honest and admit he did it for the money.
Meh...I bought it and still do. He didn't need any money in 2004....and I doubt he needs it now.
I believe he saw Ed's condition, thought that he was probably on the road to death, and so he willingly took a big bite of a shit sandwich just to do it one last time.
MA would never publicly announce that Ed was a fucked up, wasted, ticking time bomb. That's never been his style.....ever.
It's not a "need" of more money, but a want. Why wouldn't he do it? He got paid. I agree with Sesh to an extent, but I believe he did it for the fans and the money.
Actually, Mike said just this week on Stern, that Ed was a fucked up, wasted, ticking time bomb. Maybe not in those exact words, but he and Clichegar both reiterated just how bad off Ed was at that time. Neither of them did it in a vicious way, but an honest way. That was a scary time for Edward Van Halen. He could have easily ended up like any one of the other dead rock stars.
Honestly, I don't think it was entirely for the money. In his delusional state, Ed must have thought that going on tour=the magic is back, even if it was with Sam. It's no secret that Eddie Van Halen was in absolutely NO shape to go on tour in 2004. Hell he was on the brink of dying, yet he did anyway.
Ed must still be in his delusional state if he thinks his current singer was in shape to go on the 2012 tour.
Oh look.... Bleater/Santa's Douche has a new alias......
Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
now do the 5150 walk outta here.
Think this is the one Von is referring to:
Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth
If Mike just did it for the money he would be an asshole to the fans. I've met two members of Van Halen. One being Alex Van Halen who was nice enough but he was avoiding people and you could tell he really didn't like mingling. The other was Mike. Mike loved to hang around and talk. No attitude, he was like a good buddy hanging around shooting the shit. That's Michael Anthony. He really does like the fans. Alex wanted to grab his food and dash back to the band's dressing rooms.
Also during a Van Halen show the party is over on Mike's side of the stage. It's like come on over and have a drink! If you even think about going over to Ed's side of the stage his people will say "get the hell out of here!" It's like a sacred temple full of stuff you plebians are not worthy of or there is some secret recipe they are gaurding. You will never see the road crew over at Ed's. They are over at Mike's. That pretty much sums up what Mike is all about.
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Fuck these guys.
Well, I still won't check the hot sauce nor Chickenpoo, but MA obviously sounds like "good pasta", as the French say.
He keeps turning his head to listen to the interviewer with his right ear, the left one surely being kind of deaf with CVH's loudness on stage.
So it's basically Van Hanson?
I hear ya Von. I should have clarified and said that MA would not have done it at the time. He certainly is no stranger to making his feelings known after the fact....but he wouldn't have sabotaged the tour by speaking out before or during.
Of course, that draws his motives back into question. Did he keep quiet at the time for the money? Or for the fans? I think it leans more towards the fans.
He clarifies a bit in the forward he (shouldn't have) wrote for Sam's trash novel of a life story.
Nope. I'm still using this one.Oh look.... Bleater/Santa's Douche has a new alias......
Guess it's just a coincidence that you hadn't jumped into this thread until now.
Y'know...when you stopped in to check and see if anyone called you out on your alias.....
Yeah, that must be it. Or, just MAYBE, I saw that witty FRauD refer to me and I was compelled to reply.
naahhhhh
Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!
Just keep banging your head against the wall, Bleater.......
Shouldnt you be starting a thread about how many times you've been to LAX?
Actually, I don't think I've ever been "TO" LAX. Though I have been through there a few times on the way to Tucson... just long enough to get off one plane and on another.
And making jokes about a violent shooting, that's low.... even for a sheep like you.
I didn't make a joke about it at all. I see you couldn't help telling us you have been "through" there anyway. How long until you start with the updates from the scene?
I'm doubtful that Anthony's participation would have made much of a difference in Van Halen from 2007 onward in terms of the overall sound...maybe a bit more oomph in the background vocal department. Obviously, it would have been a full-fledged CVH reunion, and I certainly would have liked to have seen that happen.
The thing of it is, I think it took Wolfgang to kind of wake his dad up to the notion that he should get back together with Dave. As mentioned in another post, Anthony being curtailed within the group in terms of a lower cut of the profits and Ed overdubbing bass parts - these things happened well before Wolfgang was even of an age to be seriously considered as a replacement. By the time the 2004 tour rolled around, Anthony was in essence a hired hand who was only there at Hagar's insistence.
Going forward, it's not like Anthony's gonna rejoin and suddenly Ed's gonna play any better, or Dave's gonna sing any better. And Anthony doesn't write, so it's not like a ton of great new song ideas will be brought into the mix by him being around. I will say that Wolfgang looked uneasy on the road in 2007/2008, but on the last tour that kid was knocking it out of the park. Wolfgang also has what Anthony no longer has: the ability to influence his father to drag long-dormant CVH deep tracks out for a live airing. Anthony doesn't have any influence with Ed: if Anthony rejoined, it'd be as if Eddie was doing him a courtesy (at least that's the way I think Eddie would look at it).
I hate to say it, because I really did want to see the CVH lineup back together for a long time...well, no, I don't hate to say it: Wolfgang has given Van Halen an extended lease on life that Anthony just couldn't. Wolfgang's influence obviously results solely from him being Ed's kid, but that's what it took in the end to get Roth back and get things moving again.
I suppose I'm not as adamant that Anthony is a vital component to the band's future because I really don't have many expectations for Van Halen's future. ADKOT was a good album. The Van Halens can still deliver. Roth's live vocal approach now is a bit odd. 3/4s of the band is a bit too long in the tooth to foster any real expectations of a return to the zenith of their creative and performance peak of thirty years ago. About all I expect from them is passable nostalgia, and within that criteria Wolfgang works well enough. If Anthony is there instead, there may be a bit more credibility in terms of authenticity, but there wouldn't be a quantum leap in terms of ability or quality.
Scramby eggs and bacon.
You doubt having Mike there would do much for their overall sound? His backing vocals are sorely missed, now more than ever given how Roth is doing these days. Maybe Wolfgang is the only one who can suggest what songs to do but then that just speaks to how the band is really a dictatorship now. Roth isnt going to make any waves, he doesnt want to lose the spotlight again, his weird Tweets and movie "trailer" reek of neediness. Mike not being there is a bigger deal than anybody wants to admit, despite Wolfgang "hitting it out of the park", is he really? Nope.
FRauD, your beastiality tendencies are worrisome. But, to each his own.
Well said Terry. Some of the best posts on here are yours. I put this one right up there. If Mike was in the band back in 07 that would have created more of a buzz for sure about a reunion, but overall it wouldn't have changed what's been going on with the band the last 5 years. It would have looked better on stage and the backup vocals would be better. The kid is a good singer but not Mike. Personally I prefer Wolf's freight train bass sound live than Mikes basic approach. Wolf paid his dues last tour so I'm fine with him. What VH needs too worry about at this point is Dave getting his voice back if they plan too play a few more years on the road.
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