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I'm leaning more and more in this same direction with my thoughts. Had they been a bit busier, studio wise, since '07, I might have missed Mike less by now. The slow grind production of the VH machine that we're all too familiar with, certainly isn't helping their cause any. They've gone into indefinite hibernation again. If they're as busy as hell with more VH 4.0, fine, get on with it. If not, they should be putting together the closing of the CVH book with Mike.Comment
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I agree...Comment
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I agree with the pace of stuff , they should be full steam a head . Instead it feels like they are closing up for winter ,see ya in four years for the next tour .fuck your fucking framingComment
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Am not an Aerosmith fan , but since van played with them in oz they seemed to have been really busy , they even got the slot at download in the uk that every year people go well that's got van halen written all over it .
If those old farts can keep busy why can't ours .fuck your fucking framingComment
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Well, I won't dump a bunch of shit on your take of ADKOT, mostly because I don't totally disagree with it.
Much like the 2007 and 2012 tours, ADKOT comes off to me as the best the band was able to do considering how much time they squandered and self-abuse they inflicted on themselves, and when those two aspects are taken into acount the result seems somewhat miraculous.
However, strictly on the merits of the album, it's not really a good sign of a prolific creative future re: the amount of old demo tracks reworked.
Tattoo DID sound to me like a Roth solo track when I first heard it, and a track from Roth's solo years post-ALAE, to boot. And this was even with having full awareness from the initial listening that the tune was a reworked, previously unreleased Warner Bros/Simmons demo track.
The Trouble With Never also sounds like something the DLR Band might have come up with. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, and I'd rather have a Van Halen album full of DLR Band-type tracks than, say, the stuff that wound up on VHIII. But this isn't to say the DLR Band album was on a level approaching the 6-pack.
In point of fact, when the ADKOT Tampa tour date was approaching, there were really only 2 or 3 tracks off the ADKOT album that I was hoping the band would play live, which doesn't say much for how badly I wanted to hear all the tracks given a live airing. In point of fact, I was more curious as to what old CVH deep cuts the band would pull out of mothballs than any of the stuff off the new album.
LIke you say, it's not a bad album.
All things considered (which includes Ed AND Dave's recorded output since 1995), it is somewhat surprising it turned out as well as it did.
Yet, it's not quite CVH, either. Anthony IS somewhat missed, if only vocally (I do think Wolfgang did a great job bass-wise on the album), and the material just...doesn't quite make it to the point where I heard any one track and said "THERE is another timeless Van Halen classic for the ages, up there with Unchained, RWTD, ATBL or Everybody Wants Some".Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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I think blood and fire and as is are better than some diver down material . Admittedly probably the covers .
As for tattoo , being the first single and general promotion of the album if am generous it's a missed opportunity if am honest the guy in charge of promotion was as much use as Anne franks drum kit .fuck your fucking framingComment
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If they want to continue as a functioning band, i.e., one that records new music and tours, then they can't continue to have their thumbs up their asses relative to the speed in which they do things. In an interview in another thread, Dave said it would be an 18 month process to get another album done and out on the road. That's too fucking long. They're getting older and Dave's voice will not be improving. I hope they don't expect to put out another album 4 years from now and plan on filling arenas. That's a dicey proposition to me.
Terry mentioned in another thread that they have nothing left to prove. I agree with that. If you don't want to be a functioning band, that's ok. Call Mike up, do the farewell tour and call it a day. Otherwise, get to work and release new albums and tour while there's still gas in the tank. As for Mike, the only way I'm upset is if they do a farewell tour and don't include him- that would be horseshit. As has been discussed here before, no Wolfgang, no tours and no album(s). i'd rather have what we got with 3/4 of Van Halen than nothing with the original lineup. (it would actually be less than nothing because VH with Mike wouldn't even have existed because Ed wouldn't have had him in the band anyway) i understand the purist point of view- no Mike, no CVH. While I understand that mindset, it reminds me of the random Japanese guys stranded on islands in the Pacific still fighting WWII after it'd been over for years. It just ain't the reality of the situation and seems a zero sum game at this point, imo. but hey, keep fighting the fight, Yūjin!
Bottom line, they need to step it up or consider calling it a day (after they tour with Mike).Last edited by chuckjitsu; 11-17-2013, 11:31 PM.Comment
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Who's gonna give two shits what they do three years from now? The last record was great, but it didn't transfer from record to stage so well. Of course, everybody is gonna disagree with me. Fine. But the tank is just about dry, as far as the live stage show goes. I do believe that Dave can still bring it live. I don't understand why he shoots himself in the foot live on a regular basis. The bottom line is that this band has a very, very limited shelf life. These guys need to bring it and bring it now. Dave ain't gonna get much better than he is right now. So the "band" as it is has a limited time to do what it has to do. Or we can all sit back and be grateful for whatever we get from them.American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.
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Van Halen got old.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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This is how a dog must feel. In Van Halen years I'm 190 years old.My karma just ran over your dogma.Comment
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