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    70 posts in here now so hopefully at least people will get the impression that if mistakes were made they weren't made without thought or with malice.

    As I said I took a lot of time thinking about how to try and fix things and I explained my plan to the small team I asked to help me and they were kind enough to put themselves in harms way to try it.

    Anyway here we all are and we haven't had to rename any more forums...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    No banning, but no personal info and no racist shit.
    Just to be pedantic but it's worth saying and something we maybe need to all make a decision on.

    The rule wasn't no racist shit it was no use of the n word.

    There was never a rule about calling someone a darkie, a spic, a wop, a kike or whatever.

    Maybe it's something we should look into adopting as a community. It's not something that comes up usually apart from during big arguments and there is the danger of censoring out humor by accident or getting embroiled in semantics.

    Hopefully most of us are now at an age where we can just not be dicks without having rules to tell us that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post

    Hopefully most of us are now at an age where we can just not be dicks without having rules to tell us that.

    Have you read the previous 11 pages
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Hopefully most of us are now at an age where we can just not be dicks without having rules to tell us that.
    Honestly, it was just WARF.

    Until he got his ass handed to him, and he ran to flappy to bail him out.

    In a drunken stupor, WARF actually thought some chick in Sweden loved him

    Oh, the internets.



    Hindsight being what it is, I apologize to Sesh personally about my criticism of his handling of things. After reading much of this, I believe he really didn't see alot of it from our side, and was sincerely trying to just make everyone happy. [always a losing proposition ]

    He will never admit it, but WARF started this whole thing. Yes I kept it going. But everyone knows about that night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Just to be pedantic but it's worth saying and something we maybe need to all make a decision on.

    The rule wasn't no racist shit it was no use of the n word.

    There was never a rule about calling someone a darkie, a spic, a wop, a kike or whatever.

    Maybe it's something we should look into adopting as a community. It's not something that comes up usually apart from during big arguments and there is the danger of censoring out humor by accident or getting embroiled in semantics.

    Hopefully most of us are now at an age where we can just not be dicks without having rules to tell us that.
    The N word ban was because Sarge might log in on a community computer and didn't want anyone to look over his shoulder and see racist shit......could of hurt his career, IIRC.........

    We're all a lot older and hopefully common sense can be the only real rule we need!

    Doubt it but hope springs is eternal
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    I think we should just ban all words. Just use nothing but smileys. Except for Lounge - he can't have any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I think we should just ban all words. Just use nothing but smileys. Except for Lounge - he can't have any.

    hey!!!!!!
    Now who`s that babe with the fab-u-lous shad-ow?

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    Damn...did we actually come to some sort of meeting of the minds here through all of the re-hashing? - The Healing power of WARF!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    Damn...did we actually come to some sort of meeting of the minds here through al of the re-hashing? - The Healing power of WARF!



    Was out all day, but after catching up sounds more like everyone's just at the "fuck it" point. Myself included. Life's too short, and when the fuck is Van Halen putting out another CD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    70 posts in here now so hopefully at least people will get the impression that if mistakes were made they weren't made without thought or with malice.

    As I said I took a lot of time thinking about how to try and fix things and I explained my plan to the small team I asked to help me and they were kind enough to put themselves in harms way to try it.

    Anyway here we all are and we haven't had to rename any more forums...
    You gave me one, I'll give you this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    Honestly, it was just WARF.

    Until he got his ass handed to him, and he ran to flappy to bail him out.

    In a drunken stupor, WARF actually thought some chick in Sweden loved him

    Oh, the internets.



    Hindsight being what it is, I apologize to Sesh personally about my criticism of his handling of things. After reading much of this, I believe he really didn't see alot of it from our side, and was sincerely trying to just make everyone happy. [always a losing proposition ]

    He will never admit it, but WARF started this whole thing. Yes I kept it going. But everyone knows about that night.
    It is one of the rules isn't it? It is all Lounge's fault!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I think we should just ban all words. Just use nothing but smileys. Except for Lounge - he can't have any.

    And no more fucking spin off sites, Go daddy is going to ban you guys next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    Damn...did we actually come to some sort of meeting of the minds here through all of the re-hashing? - The Healing power of WARF!
    I didnt drink vodka.

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    Am impressed with Sesh over this whole peace breaking out thang . ... its been like the UN with all his troops with their purple helmets .. He is like our Wan ky-moon

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Am impressed with Sesh over this whole peace breaking out thang . ... its been like the UN with all his troops with their purple helmets .. He is like our Wan ky-moon
    I was impressed when Sesh took over, and I still am.

    I tried to warn you guys that Swede was trouble. (I keed, I keed)
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    What ever became of our swede anyhow??

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    Amazing... anyone who joined the Roth Army expecting any sort of safe haven beyond the ability to freely act like a total jackass at any time is delusional. More amazing is several long time members complaining and blaming the staff for not providing protections that were never promised, implied nor offered.

    There was always 2 rules... no "N" word and no dick pictures. That's it.

    Sesh doesn't deserve the crap being thrown his way. He did way more than he had to... rehiring Von for example... Plus accommodating rules that didn't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Amazing... anyone who joined the Roth Army expecting any sort of safe haven beyond the ability to freely act like a total jackass at any time is delusional. More amazing is several long time members complaining and blaming the staff for not providing protections that were never promised, implied nor offered.

    There was always 2 rules... no "N" word and no dick pictures. That's it.

    Sesh doesn't deserve the crap being thrown his way. He did way more than he had to... rehiring Von for example... Plus accommodating rules that didn't exist.
    Just drop it wahzoo, everyone said their part, we dont need the sideline report today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    What ever became of our swede anyhow??
    I think she works at a cocoa factory.

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    I really haven't wanted to weigh in on this shit, because I don't seem to have much of a filter. That, and sometimes typed words can be misinterpreted. It's a lot easier to gauge someone's meaning when you are looking them in the eyes, as opposed to reading words typed on a screen.

    Anyway, I think the biggest difference between the old days, and now, is the fact that there is so much more "social media". Back in the day, when we used to have these "wars", they for the most part didn't carry over into real life. They stayed right here. That is a much bigger difference than I realized.

    I would never want someone's business or career to suffer or be harmed in any way, just because of a disagreement with someone here. I guess we found out the hard way, in this day and age, that can happen.

    Maybe now we can all move forward. Like JHale said, isn't there supposedly a new VH album on the horizon we can talk and speculate about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I really haven't wanted to weigh in on this shit, because I don't seem to have much of a filter. That, and sometimes typed words can be misinterpreted. It's a lot easier to gauge someone's meaning when you are looking them in the eyes, as opposed to reading words typed on a screen.

    Anyway, I think the biggest difference between the old days, and now, is the fact that there is so much more "social media". Back in the day, when we used to have these "wars", they for the most part didn't carry over into real life. They stayed right here. That is a much bigger difference than I realized.

    I would never want someone's business or career to suffer or be harmed in any way, just because of a disagreement with someone here. I guess we found out the hard way, in this day and age, that can happen.

    Maybe now we can all move forward. Like JHale said, isn't there supposedly a new VH album on the horizon we can talk and speculate about?
    The social media thing is definitely a game changer. For the most part, when photos like Katydid's (assuming she was real) were usually taken from their own, public attention whore sites or provided my them here even. But going through peoples social media accounts under false pretenses is an entirely different matter...

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    Somebody needs to tell Von his account got hacked....

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    As lounge said, I do see now sesh, von, and the rest of the staff were doing what they thought to be best. I`m sure all of us will never agree on how things were handled but I`m glad sesh took the time to explain his side of it. Lord knows I lashed out at him on more then one occasion and I apologize for it, I am more then ready to just let bygones be bygones and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    Just drop it wahzoo, everyone said their part, we dont need the sideline report today.
    Pardon me... I wasn't available last nite when your entourage was busy spilling their hearts.

    Glad y'all have it all in order now... carry on!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Pardon me... I wasn't available last nite when your entourage was busy spilling their hearts.

    Glad y'all have it all in order now... carry on!!
    We saved you a seat, way to stand us up gramps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    We saved you a seat, way to stand us up gramps!
    Nah, ZZ was over my place last night, with both of us knocking off beer after beer while watching the Richmond race on Fox and making snide remarks about people that were unworthy of shining our shoes. Unfortunately, sometime after the race he found my DVD of the final season of Breaking Bad, and insisted we watch the damned thing in it's entirety, with the god damned commentary track.

    Bastard finally left sometime after 4 AM I guess, I'm not sure, as I passed out on the recliner. And wouldn't ya know it, my carton of Marlboros, two bags of Tostitos and three jars of spicy bean dip seem to have went with him.









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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post

    In a drunken stupor, WARF actually thought some chick in Sweden loved him

    Oh, the internets.
    That sounds mean of spirit. Using nondiscriptive pro-nouns it reveals the essence of the statement.
    "In a drunken stupor, WARF actually thought some [person] loved him "

    The "Oh, the internets" off remark suggests that simply because a person is using digital communications they should not expect forthrightness and wholesomeness in their associations.

    Fraud is fraud. And romance scams are serious as any fraud. Judges have been killed over sweetheart scams. Romance scams are confidence scams. It is the tolerance of such corruption that is subjecting the global community to intolerable amounts of abuse. Yes, that is a large leap of concepts, but these leaps need to be made for example of how uncool fraudulent is.

    I outline one example that can be related to in this sex, drugs, and rock & roll atmosphere in 2 journal entries, one thanking a campaigner, the other a statement of reform.




    Yes, I kept it going. But everyone knows about that night.
    No, not everyone knows about that night. . .

    My words may sound harsh; however, WARF has someone(s) that loves him. There is no reason it could not be someone(s) from Sweden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Am impressed with Sesh over this whole peace breaking out thang . ... its been like the UN with all his troops with their purple helmets .. He is like our Wan ky-moon


    I always pictured Sesh as the guy whos is more drunk than the two drunks fighting outside a bus shelter on a Saturday night. You know, the guy who breaks up a fight, tells everyone he loves them, and then asks if they can spare any change for chips and a can of special brew.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    That sounds mean of spirit. Using nondiscriptive pro-nouns it reveals the essence of the statement.
    "In a drunken stupor, WARF actually thought some [person] loved him "

    The "Oh, the internets" off remark suggests that simply because a person is using digital communications they should not expect forthrightness and wholesomeness in their associations.

    Fraud is fraud. And romance scams are serious as any fraud. Judges have been killed over sweetheart scams. Romance scams are confidence scams. It is the tolerance of such corruption that is subjecting the global community to intolerable amounts of abuse. Yes, that is a large leap of concepts, but these leaps need to be made for example of how uncool fraudulent is.

    I outline one example that can be related to in this sex, drugs, and rock & roll atmosphere in 2 journal entries, one thanking a campaigner, the other a statement of reform.





    No, not everyone knows about that night. . .

    My words may sound harsh; however, WARF has someone(s) that loves him. There is no reason it could not be someone(s) from Sweden.

    Werewolves rwar rawr rawr....

    Um, what?

    No offense, but are you fucking retarded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post

    Um, what?

    No offense, but are you fucking retarded?
    I think you are supposed to use developmentally disabled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I really haven't wanted to weigh in on this shit, because I don't seem to have much of a filter. That, and sometimes typed words can be misinterpreted. It's a lot easier to gauge someone's meaning when you are looking them in the eyes, as opposed to reading words typed on a screen.
    I feel ya there. I had even pretty much quit reading here because I do not have much of a filter to not speak up.
    Plus the long-running social engineering games being played made almost everything discreditable.
    What is fun and games for one person is another persons solemnity.

    Anyway, I think the biggest difference between the old days, and now, is the fact that there is so much more "social media". Back in the day, when we used to have these "wars", they for the most part didn't carry over into real life. They stayed right here. That is a much bigger difference than I realized.

    I would never want someone's business or career to suffer or be harmed in any way, just because of a disagreement with someone here. I guess we found out the hard way, in this day and age, that can happen.
    In the old days, it was just a bit more complex to organize a campaign of any sorts. They were also more difficult to expose.
    The cowing, intimidation, and the discrediting of someone who did not go along with "the game" in the old days was still often bewildering and equally devastating.
    I think the difference is the playing field is somewhat leveling. In addition, people are rising up against shenanigans at various levels of society, including in their personal lives. EI People are being empowered and bringing that Homefront.

    Maybe now we can all move forward. Like JHale said, isn't there supposedly a new VH album on the horizon we can talk and speculate about?
    Maybe, there is already an album released

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    [imghttp://i1.ytimg.com/vi/VDL8V_Xu8us/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
    Um, what?

    No offense, but are you fucking retarded?
    No offense, but is that photo supposed to have meaning?
    I do not bother "picking up" on the innuendo any more. If it is not worth saying plainly and clearly. It is not worth me, deciphering it. Especially on my social time.
    No, I am not. I expected to get slack for speaking up. WARF is what he is, but someone, somewhere thinks he is the cat's meow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    No offense, but is that photo supposed to have meaning?
    I do not bother "picking up" on the innuendo any more. If it is not worth saying plainly and clearly. It is not worth me, deciphering it. Especially on my social time.
    No, I am not. I expected to get slack for speaking up. WARF is what he is, but someone, somewhere thinks he is the cat's meow.
    Trust me Blaze/Oolith/Julia.....

    The irony of you of all people lecturing in here is not lost on anyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The social media thing is definitely a game changer. For the most part, when photos like Katydid's (assuming she was real) were usually taken from their own, public attention whore sites or provided my them here even. But going through peoples social media accounts under false pretenses is an entirely different matter...
    This.



    Nailed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post

    There was never a rule about calling someone a darkie, a spic, a wop, a kike or whatever.

    Maybe it's something we should look into adopting as a community.
    You're off your rocker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    I think you are supposed to use developmentally disabled!
    Yes, you are. I HATE the term retarded...having been working with people with cognitive disAbilities makes it hit home how nasty that word is!

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    That's retarded...

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