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  • FORD
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    • Jan 2004
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    • ELVIS
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      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      He's drunk in that clip...

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      • FORD
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        • Jan 2004
        • 58781

        Doubt that.... I don't think Thom is much of a drinker. Though he has run the occasional ad for an organic wine company on his radio show, so he's not like a Mormon or anything.

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        • Nickdfresh
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          • Oct 2004
          • 49203

          Originally posted by ELVIS
          No it's not another story...

          That factory waste is in your drinking water...
          No, not really. It's scrupulously filtered out in every major municipality. In China, not so much. They have regular environmental protests held in every major town, fuckwit. But good thing you have them as some sort of ideal...

          Hey, Efuckwit, can you tell us China's perspective on human rights? LOL? Really?
          Last edited by Nickdfresh; 04-13-2014, 09:06 PM.

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          • jacksmar
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            • Feb 2004
            • 3533

            Originally posted by FORD
            All those Hollywood producers have million dollar beach houses in Malibu. They know they will be as fucked as the rest of us when the sea levels rise. It could be completely in their own self interest to push this agenda. If it gets through the KKKoch propaganda that's brainwashing ELVIS and Jerksmear and those like them, I'm OK with that. Not that either of them will probably be convinced, but others might be.

            I don't subscribe to Showtime, so I have no interest in promoting it myself. Will I watch it? Maybe... if I can find it in the same places I found Dexter or House of Lies.


            when the sea levels rise.

            Breaking wind - TURD knows when the sea levels rise.

            When the sea levels rise.................. date and time please turd.

            Or maybe ..................... a prediction???????????

            (can't wait for this one!!!!!!!!!!!!)
            A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              No, not really. It's scrupulously filtered out in every major municipality.
              That's fucking bullshit...

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35192

                Originally posted by jacksmar
                when the sea levels rise.

                Breaking wind - TURD knows when the sea levels rise.

                When the sea levels rise.................. date and time please turd.

                Or maybe ..................... a prediction???????????

                (can't wait for this one!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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                • jacksmar
                  Full Member Status

                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3533

                  Study claimed in 2009 that sea levels would rise by up to 82cm by the end of century – but the report's author now says true estimate is still unknown


                  Climate scientists withdraw journal claims of rising sea levels
                  Study claimed in 2009 that sea levels would rise by up to 82cm by the end of century – but the report's author now says true estimate is still unknown
                  A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35192



                    What Are The Chances That Climate Change Is "Natural"?

                    April 14, 2014 | by Justine Alford





                    A new study which statistically analyzed temperature data over the pre-industrial period and the industrial period has rejected the hypothesis that global warming is due to natural variability at confidence levels greater than 99%. The results have been published in the journal Climate Dynamics.

                    Although there is a large body of evidence to suggest that current global warming is largely due to human activities, much of this has relied on models called general circulation models (GCMs). GCMs are computer-driven models that are key components of global climate models, which as the name suggests are used for modeling climate. Although they are useful tools, some are skeptical as to whether they can really infer connections between anthropogenic factors and global warming. This, coupled with the fact that there has been a tendency to over-rely on them when making assertions, has created a need for empirically based methodologies to complement the GCMs.

                    Professor Shaun Lovejoy from the McGill University used data from the (mostly) pre-industrial period (1500-1900) and the industrial period (1880-2000), and calculated the probability that global warming since 1880 is due to natural temperature fluctuations, rather than man-made emissions, using statistical analysis.

                    In order to assess natural variation in climate prior to the industrial period, Lovejoy used both fluctuation-analysis techniques which allow an understanding of temperature variations over different time scales, and multi-proxy climate reconstructions. These reconstructions make use of data derived from sources such as tree rings and ice cores.

                    To do the same for the industrial period, he used CO2 production from fossil fuel burning as a broad surrogate for all anthropogenic (man-made) forcings. He claimed that this is justified because of the relationship between the emission of greenhouse gases and particulate pollution with global economic activity.

                    The conclusion drawn from the data was clear- he rejected the natural variability hypothesis with confidence levels of over 99%. It is necessary to understand that rejecting one hypothesis does not prove another- his data therefore does not prove that global warming has an anthropogenic causation. However, the results do enhance the credibility of this ulterior hypothesis.

                    It is also very important to point out that the confidence levels are likely to be exaggerated since the data used for the pre-industrial era cannot be 100% certain as measurements were taken in an indirect manner, since temperature data was not recorded 500 years ago. Therefore there is a degree of uncertainly in this data, which would inherently affect the statistical confidence. However, this does not mean that his overall conclusion is invalid, and this still remains an important study.

                    The data generated by the study also allowed Lovejoy to make predictions like those recently published by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The IPCC predict that if atmospheric CO2 levels double, the climate will increase by between 1.9-4.2oC. Lovejoy’s data complemented this with predictions of temperature rises between 1.5-4.5oC.

                    While this is just one study, it does add to the ever growing body of evidence that the global warming we are experiencing cannot solely be attributed to natural fluctuations in temperatures.

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      Hogwash...

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49203

                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        Hogwash...
                        Oh my! How will science ever overcome this retort?

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
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                          Eat Us And Smile

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                          • jacksmar
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                            • Feb 2004
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                            The "population bomb" scare of the 60s/70s Solution: more global socialism.

                            The "Little Ice Age" fad? Solution: more global socialism.

                            The Global Warming fad? Solution: Again, the only thing that can save us is more global socialism.



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