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    Crackdown ordered on climate-change sceptics



    Ministers who question the majority view among scientists about climate change should “shut up” and instead repeat the Government line on the issue, according to MPs.

    The BBC should also give less airtime to climate sceptics and its editors should seek special clearance to interview them, according to the Commons Science and Technology Committee. Andrew Miller, the committee’s Labour chairman, said that appearances on radio and television by climate sceptics such as Lord Lawson of Blaby, the former Chancellor of the Exchequer, should be accompanied by “health warnings”.



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    Yup.

    Facts v. Politicians working for big oil facts win.

    http://www.campaigncc.org/climate_ch...f_shame#lawson
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    We can't say for sure that all climate change skeptics are bought and paid for by the energy lobby. But we can all agree that the incentive is there for many industries to turn a blind eye to the raping and pillaging that is so profitable to them and their shareholders.
    gnaw on it

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    Big oil and coal lobbyists have done an amazing job in the US, less well elsewhere.

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    That's because the US is full of ignorance and greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Big oil and coal lobbyists have done an amazing job in the US, less well elsewhere.
    Big oil rules Canada...
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    I laugh at how you freaks buy into all the oil is evil and global warming propaganda...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I laugh at how you freaks buy into all the oil is good and KKKoch funded global warming denial propaganda...
    Fixed that for ya.....
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    What a dumbass...

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    That's what I said when I saw that video of your Senator, Diaper Head calling the Stalin Funded Randtards "patriotic americans" and your fellow Lousyana residents applauding his sheer dumbassery.


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    Please don't try to propagandize me with your leftist bullshit...

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    How is it "leftist bullshit" to show Diaper Head sucking Koch in his own words?

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    I dunno dude...

    It's just because you can't seem to stop playing the left / right game...

    It doesn't matter what any of these clowns are saying, people who are awake are not listening...

    At all...

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    If you can live through Hurricane Katrina and the BP destruction of the Gulf, and STILL deny man made Global Climate Change, it's fairly fucking obvious who is neither awake, nor listening

    And that's no "left/right game". It's fucking obvious reality that even a blind man could see.

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    Shaddup...

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    If Alex Jones is denying climate change, then maybe he really IS on the KKKoch payroll. Because there is no sane person who could deny what is fucking obvious to anybody with a functional set of eyeballs.

    Even those who are PAID to say otherwise actually know better. They just won't be caught saying so in front of a live camera or microphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Big oil and coal lobbyists have done an amazing job in the US, less well elsewhere.
    You should know by now this is just Smellvis parroting Alex Jone$ and his factless, distorted paranoid shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    If Alex Jones is denying climate change, then maybe he really IS on the KKKoch payroll.
    However much of a fucking asshole Jone$ may be he wasn't always on their payroll. I'm guessing in the past three to four years he's been bought off - but that F A T fuck definitely works for them now.

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    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...hange-science/

    Brian Clark Howard
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    PUBLISHED MARCH 31, 2014

    The world is not ready for the impacts of climate change, including more extreme weather and the likelihood that populated parts of the planet could be rendered uninhabitable, says the planet's leading body of climate scientists in a major new UN report.

    The 772 scientists who wrote and edited the report argue that world leaders have only a few years left to reduce carbon emissions enough to avoid catastrophic warming, which would produce significant sea level rise and large-scale shifts in temperatures that would dramatically disrupt human life and natural ecosystems.

    "Observed impacts of climate change are widespread and consequential," according to the report, which is from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and was released Monday morning in Yokohama, Japan.

    The report uses stronger language around current impacts of climate change than past IPCC releases.

    It warns that the impacts from changing climate are already happening, calling out "high risk levels" for spread of disease in Africa; property loss and mortality due to wildfires in North America; and decreased food production and food quality in South America. (See video: "Global Warming 101.")

    The report also warns of more dire consequences to come and says governments are ill-prepared for the effects.

    It shows that "today's choices are going to significantly affect the risk that climate change will pose for the rest of the century," says Kelly Levin, a scientist who studies climate change impacts at the World Resources Institute in Washington, D.C.

    Frances Beinecke, the president of the Natural Resources Defense Council, called the report an "S.O.S. to the world."

    "Crossing a Threshold"

    The new report, from a body known as the UN panel's Working Group II, warns that the world is close to missing a chance to limit the global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution.

    World leaders had previously agreed on a target of limiting warming to 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit).

    Beyond that point, "impacts will begin to be unacceptably severe," the authors wrote. (Quiz: What You Don't Know About Climate Science.)

    "There is potential for crossing a threshold that leads to large system changes, and that's a very unknown world that has severe consequences," Levin says.

    If the warming were to go beyond 6-to-7 degrees Fahrenheit (about four degrees Celsius), she says, as predicted by some climate models, "we would see extensive changes in agriculture."

    Even at the lower end of predictions, the report warns: "Climate change will lead to increased frequency, intensity and/or duration of extreme weather events such as heavy rainfall, warm spells and heat events, drought, intense storm surges and associated sea-level rise."

    Levin hopes the report will spur international leaders to negotiate more aggressive attempts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. (How does the greenhouse effect work?)

    People Get Ready

    Levin says the IPCC report's bottom line is that governments need to invest more in planning for the impacts of climate change. Communities that are already marginalized, she says, including the urban poor, are most at risk.

    Some communities should be moved to less risky areas, and support services need to be bolstered, she says: "We need more fast-acting institutions and early-warning systems. We are already committed to significant warming, so adaptation is a great necessity."

    Energy companies and governments are actively planning and building the infrastructure that will be in service for decades, she notes. As climate change continues, power plants will need to have enough water for cooling their systems in places that are likely to get hotter and drier.

    "Whether we pick a low-emission or high-emission pathway, we may not see changes immediately," Levin says. "But in terms of a century it is a drastically different world."

    The new report specifically calls out risks to agriculture.

    "In the U.S. we have seen acute effects of severe heat on corn, cotton, and soy yields," says Noah Diffenbaugh, a climate scientist at Stanford University and one of the lead authors of the North American section of the document.

    "That kind of severe heat is likely to increase in response to continued global warming," he says.

    Understanding the IPCC

    The IPCC was founded in 1988 and has released a report on the current state of scientific knowledge about climate change roughly every five years.

    The new Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) updates the science since the last report was issued in 2007.

    The massive report, running hundreds of pages, is being released in three sections, each prepared by a different working group.

    Working Group I focused on the physical science behind climate change; its report was published last September (see the report's five key takeaways).

    In April, Working Group III will address how governments can work to mitigate climate change.

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    772 scientists - this conspiracy runs very deep doesn't it?

    And why is it that it's always the scientists that get to write the reports?

    Why don't they let people that don't know a fucking thing about the subject write the reports? Also why waste our tax payers money on all this when the oil companies would happily fund a report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I laugh at how you freaks buy into all the oil is evil and global warming propaganda...
    My grandfather was an Alberta oil pioneer. I know just how evil that industry is...

    And what I see with my own eyes when it comes to climate has nothing to do with propaganda.

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    It's funny that the people who live in the hilly cold places are trying to persuade the guy in the hot swamp basin that we should all be doing something to stop the sea rising too much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Please don't try to propagandize me with your leftist bullshit...
    Oh look, the closet, Bush-loving Republican dipshit just fell out of Elvis' mouth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Big oil rules Canada...
    Big oil rules the world. Oil companies are multinational. They just so happened to make the US Dollar the world's reserve currency and by making a deal with Opec to sell oil in US dollars, the rest of the world had to buy their oil in US Dollars. Anyone who didn't play ball got either thrown out of power by CIA or invaded by US or forces. The thing is the US Dollar really isn't US at all. It's not issued by the US government. It's issued by a private bank. The oil companies are privately owned as well with stock holders from all over the world. What's US is the soldiers who die in military operations guarding private interests. They have done a good job of selling protecting private assets as "spreading democracy" or going after terrorists.

    At the end of the day it's just guarding oligarch's loot. Canada is a favorite place for white collar crime. It has some of the weakest government regulations on corporations in the world. Oddly enough a lot of corporate shenanigans seems to lead to Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa and then over to London (ground central for financial corruption).

    Also where the greatest corporate corruption lies is in countries where most their manufacturing and industry has been outsourced. They still have decent universities but the domestic technical jobs seem to be with the government (especially the military). Like I said, the oligarchs can make bigger easier money just gaming the markets and they can make more by using whatever slave labor piss hole is available. They have an interest in the military because at the end of the day, you have to have a big stick to stay in power. It all makes sense. The west has degraded into a den of oligarchs who only care about military assets and enough slaves to provide what they want. The rest are useless eaters.

    The global warming, carbon credit agenda seems to be propagated by the same people who outsource to places like China. They don't care about pollution as long as it's not in their backyard. It also seems to be promoted out of the UK where you have large interests in the uranium mining industry. Then you have GE and Obama wanting to build more and more nuclear power plants. What's more dangerous? A modern state of the art clean coal plant or another Fukushima?

    Is the climate changing? Yup. It has always changed. Nothing new.
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    In the 70's they said we were going into global cooling. It never happened. Then the global warming thing started in the 1990's with Al Gore selling it and then you had David de Rothschild going around and selling it before the Copenhagen summit. It's all about having a global energy tax. Now certain scientists are saying we are going into a global cooling phase again.

    Sure. The UN is all about global taxes and treaties so they of course are going to be pushing the global warming alarmism. Someone somewhere is always preaching alarmism. Remember when they said AIDS would wipe out the insurance industry and break whole nations in the early 90's? It never happened. I would say in the industrialized nations are biggest problem is the banks completely taking over our governments. State enforced monopolies are our biggest problem. Not another the world is ending story.

    You probably have a higher chance of being killed by collapse of the currency system or a rogue government than you do of so called global warming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post

    You probably have a higher chance of being killed by collapse of the currency system or a rogue government than you do of so called global warming.
    Sure if your dicking about on the roth army with our nice tech .....
    Maybe not so if your border line starving and all the crops fail .....

    We have crunch zones in our economies , climate change hits there hardest .
    fuck your fucking framing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Someone somewhere is always preaching alarmism. Remember when they said AIDS would wipe out the insurance industry and break whole nations in the early 90's? It never happened.
    Nitro this is such a weird post .

    An estimated 40 million people have died of aids world wide with a possible 75 million still with the infection .
    If something doesnt happen in your country does it not happen ?

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    A lot of people have died but it didn't destroy economies and nations like the hype in the early 1990's said would happen. They were preaching a world destroying plague. Nobody in the industrialized world talks about AIDS anymore. I never hear about it anymore. Gay marriage and global warming are the new trends. Heck the religious right were hoping AIDS would wipe out the gay populations. If AIDS was as bad as they were saying it was going to be we wouldn't be having the gay marriage debate now.

    AIDS seems to be on the decline.
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    This geologist must not be on the Rothschild payroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Nitro this is such a weird post .

    An estimated 40 million people have died of aids world wide with a possible 75 million still with the infection .
    If something doesnt happen in your country does it not happen ?
    Compared to a world population of 7 billion it's a drop in the ocean. People (in the west at least) seem to be more concerned with over population. What's weird is people don't celebrate death because they constantly go on about how overpopulation is a big problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Sure if your dicking about on the roth army with our nice tech .....
    Maybe not so if your border line starving and all the crops fail .....

    We have crunch zones in our economies , climate change hits there hardest .
    You have a higher chance of dying in an auto accident. If you are scared about starving I suggest you store up a years worth of rice and beans.

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    I wasn't suggesting I was worried about starving ,I was suggesting those already struggling will feel the impact of climate change most .

    But if your struggling in a 3world country saving a years worth of food is probably the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    A lot of people have died but it didn't destroy economies and nations like the hype in the early 1990's said would happen. They were preaching a world destroying plague. Nobody in the industrialized world talks about AIDS anymore. I never hear about it anymore. Gay marriage and global warming are the new trends. Heck the religious right were hoping AIDS would wipe out the gay populations. If AIDS was as bad as they were saying it was going to be we wouldn't be having the gay marriage debate now.

    AIDS seems to be on the decline.
    Because they have drugs to deal with it and African countries have finally gotten over denial and begun to deal with the problem. But AIDS has had a huge, negative impact on Africa, no question...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    This geologist must not be on the Rothschild payroll.
    I watched the first 6 seconds and then the guy says he is a geologist.

    If I want to know about geology I'll listen to him. If my car breaks down I take it to a mechanic.

    These fuckwit denialists are never climatologists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    In the 70's they said we were going into global cooling. It never happened. Then the global warming thing started in the 1990's with Al Gore selling it and then you had David de Rothschild going around and selling it before the Copenhagen summit. It's all about having a global energy tax. Now certain scientists are saying we are going into a global cooling phase again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    In the 70's they said we were going into global cooling. It never happened.
    It was mainstream media that said cooling. Peer reviewed scientific articles said otherwise.

    https://www.skepticalscience.com/ice...termediate.htm

    "Peer-Reviewed Literature

    However, these are media articles, not scientific studies. A survey of peer reviewed scientific papers from 1965 to 1979 show that few papers predicted global cooling (7 in total). Significantly more papers (42 in total) predicted global warming (Peterson 2008).

    The large majority of climate research in the 1970s predicted the Earth would warm as a consequence of CO2. Rather than 1970s scientists predicting cooling, the opposite is the case."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    It was mainstream media that said cooling. Peer reviewed scientific articles said otherwise.

    https://www.skepticalscience.com/ice...termediate.htm

    "Peer-Reviewed Literature

    However, these are media articles, not scientific studies. A survey of peer reviewed scientific papers from 1965 to 1979 show that few papers predicted global cooling (7 in total). Significantly more papers (42 in total) predicted global warming (Peterson 2008).

    The large majority of climate research in the 1970s predicted the Earth would warm as a consequence of CO2. Rather than 1970s scientists predicting cooling, the opposite is the case."
    You get these non facts that just go around and around forever.

    Within the next few months ELVIS or Nitro will post again that all the scientists 40 years ago said the world was cooling so it can't be heating up now.

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