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  • ELVIS
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    White House Counterterror Chief: “Confrontational” Children Could be Terrorists

    Paul Joseph Watson


    White House counterterrorism and Homeland Security adviser Lisa Monaco gave a speech this week in which she urged parents to watch their children for signs of “confrontational” behavior which could be an indication of them becoming terrorists.



    During the speech at at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government on Tuesday night, Monaco, who replaced John Brennan last year in overseeing the executive branch’s homeland-security activities, said that parents need to be suspicious of “sudden personality changes in their children at home.”

    “What kinds of behaviors are we talking about?” she asked. “For the most part, they’re not related directly to plotting attacks. They’re more subtle. For instance, parents might see sudden personality changes in their children at home—becoming confrontational.”

    Monaco lamented the fact that, “The government is rarely in a position to observe these early signals,” encouraging parents to act as watchdogs to detect radicalization in line with President Obama’s goal of combating homegrown extremism.

    Over the last decade, the federal government has broadened its definition of what constitutes potential terrorism to such a degree that the term has lost all meaning and is clearly being used as a political tool to demonize adversarial political activism.

    Indeed, only yesterday Senator Harry Reid caused outrage when he labeled supporters of Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy “domestic terrorists”.

    Although such tactics pre-date the 2009 release of the MIAC report, the Missouri Information Analysis Center document was perhaps the most shocking in that it characterized a whole swathe of conservative Americans as domestic extremists, including Ron Paul supporters, people who own gold and people who display political bumper stickers.

    A Homeland Security study leaked in 2012 upped the ante even further, demonizing Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.

    Lisa Monaco’s speech and the federal government’s track record in assailing both banal behavior and political activism as potential “terrorism” serves as a reminder that the war on terror has now been focused inwardly against innocent Americans, making it all the more harder to detect actual terrorists.


  • FORD
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    • Jan 2004
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    #2
    Sad as it is, there are fucking idiots out there who DO teach their children to be terrorists.....





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    • FORD
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      • Jan 2004
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      #3
      And as far as Cliven Bundy goes.... He's a tax cheat, a liar, a fraud, and a Mormon religious kook, but it's probably a stretch to call him a terrorist.

      Though Sean Hannazi is doing his damndest to goad him into being one......



      Some of the white supremacist assholes who are showing up claiming to support this old bastard - like that idiot "sherrif", ARE probably terrorists though.
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      • FORD
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        • ELVIS
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          #5
          You're full of shit...

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          • Kristy
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            #6
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            You're full of shit...

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            • FORD
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              • Jan 2004
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              #7
              Fox News 'Hero' Cliven Bundy Is a Pampered Millionaire, Not a Rugged Rancher

              Edwin Lyngar
              Salon.com
              April 17, 2014



              The latest right-wing media poster-victim, Cliven Bundy, is just the latest in a long line of desert dwellers who thinks he or she should not have to follow the law and has a god-given right to unlimited use of public resources, in this case, rangeland. I know the mentality well, because I grew up in rural Nevada and clung desperately to such beliefs until only a few years ago.

              Bundy has not paid grazing fees in close to 20 years, while the federal government has, with painful, stupid moves, tried to somehow deal with him. Bundy also faced restrictions because he continued to graze cattle on a slice of public land reserved for the endangered desert tortoise. He was invited to talk to Sean Hannity (of course) about the “standoff.”

              “We want freedom,” Bundy said. I don’t know what freedom Bundy’s talking about. He does not own the land nor does he even pay the modest fees required to use it. Thousands of ranchers across the West pay fees for their businesses, but Bundy thinks he should get to use public resources to make a personal profit. Cliven Bundy, far from being a patriot, is also clearly a straight-up communist.


              Bundy is using the language of freedom, patriotism and outright paranoia to further his business interests. He succeeded wildly in drawing other “patriots” to his slice of contested desert. I don’t know these exact people, but the words and phrases they used were the nursery rhymes of my childhood. I’ve been listening to ignorant people bitch about the federal “gub’met,” since I could crawl, and I’m weary of it. I can’t bear to hear poor people rally to the defense of moneyed interests like mining and ranching, like well-trained, bleating sheep. As tired and silly as I find his language, clearly it worked. He so inflamed the lunatic militia movement, that many rallied to him, often from out of state, with guns and naked threats. They created a real possibility that someone might get killed, so the feds backed down.

              It is asinine in our age that an armed group of idiots can thwart reasonable government action. Bundy is not a hero, a victim or innocent in any way. Just think of real injustice of America, like people spending life in jail for marijuana charges. It’s hard to imagine the “militia,” a mostly fat, white and ignorant group, showing up to defend a kid in the inner city who was arrested for no reason. Also think what would happen to you, if you opted not to register your car for 20 years. Bundy exploits the most sickening version of white privilege to justify what amounts to theft.

              The basic facts of this story obfuscate the decades of history, animosity and lies between the federal government and the so-called Sagebrush Rebellion that started in the late ’70s. The movement is centered in Elko, Nev., a town next door to Battle Mountain, the much smaller town where I grew up. If you’ve not spent time in the rural desert, you’ll have a hard time understanding the vast spaces in play. Lander County, where Battle Mountain is located, is the geographic size of Vermont but has no more than 5,000 people.

              I grew up on 40 acres of brown sagebrush. Particularly when I was a child, cattle roamed carelessly across our property. They even had right of way on my father’s land unless he fenced the entire lot with four-strands of barbed wire, an expensive and ugly option. This is the freedom for which patriots are fighting: for cows to trump personal property rights.

              In some ways, Nevada has a legitimate beef with the federal government that owns 87 percent of all of Nevada’s land. That’s land that can’t be developed or sold, which cuts into Nevada’s tax base. However, that land is far from empty. People ride horses and recreational vehicles on it. They hunt it and file mining claims, and, yes, when appropriate a vast amount of it is open to grazing. Without “public” land, there would be no ranching of the kind that allows Mr. Bundy to make a living. There would be less “wide open” for which the West is famous.

              We could argue about whether the land should belong to the federal government, but what is not in dispute is that Bundy has no ownership of it. He won’t even pay fees to use it. In short, he refuses to pay rent, like thousands of other ranchers do dutifully every year. Again, I’d like to observe if Bundy is not a communist, he’s at least an aggressive socialist.

              Bundy’s foundational argument is that he “has been using the land for generations.” He claims to have “ancestors” who worked the land since the late 1800s. If Bundy wants to make this argument, he’ll need to chat to a Native American or two from one of the many different tribes in Nevada who were here far before Bundy’s ancestors. Also, I thought America was about building wealth through capitalism, rather than depending on your daddy to pass on his membership into the landed aristocracy. Bundy seems to think himself a member of the neo-nobility.

              What is missed in this nonsense is that the land should not be managed based on feelings or business needs or family connections. In my Nevada experience, history and family too often trump concerns about what’s best for society and the public good. From where I sit, attitudes are changing for the better.

              Bundy, like the sagebrush rebels who came before, has co-opted the language of the oppressed, wrapped in neo-Confederate sensibilities. The crazies have been loosed for good or ill, waving yellow flags and screaming the word “patriot,” none of which has anything to do with subsidizing one man’s business. Even some of my close friends and family are outraged over this latest assault on “freedom.” I’m not far enough removed from this opinion to forget how it feels. You feel powerless and angry. I can hear my former inner voice: We live out here, not them. We should get to decide how to use the desert. It is as understandable as it is ill-informed and misguided.

              I have to concede that certain employees of the federal government can be stupid and ham-handed dealing with people like Bundy. In this case, the feds probably should have removed Bundy’s cattle when he stopped paying grazing fees. The agencies involved also fumbled some parts of the latest tactic, playing into fears of government overreach with “Free Speech Zones” for protesters. So often the feds seem to botch the details, but one must give them credit for backing down in the end. No one, perhaps other than the raging right, wanted actual shooting. Perhaps now, quietly, the federal government can work with Bundy to get him to either pay his grazing fees or remove his cattle without creating a spectacle.

              Bundy has no right to public land. The federal government and other land managers can and should consider the interests of ranchers, just as they should consider mining, recreation and the needs of wildlife, but Bundy is not the only person who has lived in the desert. His should not be even close to the final vote. He can whittle, spit and reminisce, while the rest of us build a modern, cooperative state worth living in.
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              • ELVIS
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                #8
                This thread isn't about Bundy...

                It's about regular Americans being labeled as terrorists by the federal mafia...

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                • tbone888
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                  #9
                  Looking at the kids in nazi uniforms reminds of the Russel Brand clip, where he accepted an award at a GQ special honoring Hugo Boss. He was tossed out after going on about Hugo supposedly designing the uniforms for the SS.

                  Russell Brand kicked out of GQ Awards for embarrassing Hugo Boss:Perpetual button-pusher Russell Brand was called to the stage at last Tuesday's GQ awards to...

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                  • FORD
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                    • Jan 2004
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    This thread isn't about Bundy...

                    It's about regular Americans being labeled as terrorists by the federal mafia...
                    But some "regular Americans" ARE terrorists. Including the fucking morons who flocked to Nevada to defend this delusional old man's imaginary "right" to have his cows shit all over public land without paying the fees.

                    Some of these assholes would be more than willing to start a new Civil War over something that they completely made up in their own meth-addled minds. How is that NOT terrorism?
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                    • FORD
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tbone888
                      Looking at the kids in nazi uniforms reminds of the Russel Brand clip, where he accepted an award at a GQ special honoring Hugo Boss. He was tossed out after going on about Hugo supposedly designing the uniforms for the SS.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6DH0Jhglp4
                      No "supposedly" about it. Hugo Boss was himself a member of the Nazi party, and he designed the uniforms for the SA, the SS, the Hitler Youth, and other divisions of the Nazi regime. And his "labor force" at his factories included concentration camp labor (just like Prescott Bush's Silesian Steel) as well as French & Polish prisoners of war. So his loyalty to Der Fuhrer isn't really up for speculation

                      Hugo the Nazi died shortly after the war of a bad tooth abscess or something (some of the worst kind of pain imaginable... couldn't happen to a nicer douchebag). Somehow his business was allowed to survive. Much like the BCE, it should have been shut down permanently for collusion with Hitler.
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                      • Va Beach VH Fan
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                        • Dec 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        But some "regular Americans" ARE terrorists. Including the fucking morons who flocked to Nevada to defend this delusional old man's imaginary "right" to have his cows shit all over public land without paying the fees.

                        Some of these assholes would be more than willing to start a new Civil War over something that they completely made up in their own meth-addled minds. How is that NOT terrorism?

                        The image that amazed me was the guy about 100 yards from the "discussion", in full prone sniper position pointed at the federal BLM officers!

                        Are you fucking kidding me !?!?!

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                        • FORD
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                          #13
                          There's your terrorist, ELVIS.

                          Probably a Nazi too, since he's from Idaho.

                          How is Alex Jones going to explain that one away?
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                          • Kristy
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            This thread isn't about Bundy...

                            It's about regular Americans being labeled as terrorists by the federal mafia...

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                            • FORD
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                              #15
                              Too bad somebody didn't run over that treasonous fuck's legs, since they're clearly over the yellow line in that photo.
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