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    Botched Execution????

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...ution-delayed/

    He's dead isn't he? sounds like success

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesfunk View Post
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...ution-delayed/

    He's dead isn't he? sounds like success
    Nothing new. Sometimes the hangman fucked up and made the drop too far and the head came off or he didn't stretch the rope out enough and/or the drop was too short and the neck didn't break clean. The guillotine is pretty much the way to go. See. Everyone is trying to make a better mouse trap when the problem was solved a long time ago.
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    Fucking red states..... can't even get official state murder right......
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    They got it right. They killed him. That's the main point.
    It just took a little longer to execute than originally planned.
    Last edited by lesfunk; 04-30-2014 at 08:02 PM.

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    Nah, I disagree....

    Textbook definition of Cruel and Unusual Punishment, also known as the Eighth Amendment.....

    Last time I checked we're ALL supposed to be afforded ALL of those rights....

    So when some people vent about Clive Bundy's First Amendment rights after hearing his racist views....

    Or gun nuts with their Second Amendment rights.....

    Then you MUST also say that a black man on death row in Oklahoma has the right against Cruel and Unusual Punishment in accordance with the Eighth Amendment.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lesfunk View Post
    They got it right. They killed him. That's the main point.
    It just took a little longer to execute than originally planned.
    And violated the Eighth Amendment against cruel and unusual punishment. I wonder where the libertarians are here? The conspiracy shitheads like Elvis? They run around the "evil U.S. guberment" threads and wanker on about the Constitution and get all jerked off and worked up over the Ukraine, but seem to ignore facts like when black people are torture killed by their state governments...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Nah, I disagree....

    Textbook definition of Cruel and Unusual Punishment, also known as the Eighth Amendment.....

    Last time I checked we're ALL supposed to be afforded ALL of those rights....

    So when some people vent about Clive Bundy's First Amendment rights after hearing his racist views....

    Or gun nuts with their Second Amendment rights.....

    Then you MUST also say that a black man on death row in Oklahoma has the right against Cruel and Unusual Punishment in accordance with the Eighth Amendment.....
    Fucking aye! You posted two minutes before me...

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    They have an annoying habit of cherry picking the Constitution but they have years of experience doing so.......just look at what they do with the bible!
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    Ok guys... Obvious point taken. But a dead scumbag/ murderer/ rapist is still a dead scumbag /murderer/ rapist... I don't care if he was White, Black , or Brown, or Yellow. They could have just shot him in the head. Done
    Last edited by lesfunk; 04-30-2014 at 09:04 PM.

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    I don't know why they have to make things so damn complicated with these poison cocktail needle machines anyway. If you're going to kill somebody with a needle, just call up Poppy Bush, put in an order for some pure uncut heroin, load up the needle and do it. What could be simpler than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Fucking red states..... can't even get official state murder right......
    Not just any red state. This is Oklahoma a red state with a racist governor who raised an even more racist, disgusting daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I wonder where the libertarians are here? The conspiracy shitheads like Elvis?
    Gee, where do you think he is, Nick? If you said waiting for his neighbor to go to work so he can steal his cable to pirate Alex Jone$ into telling him what to think and then posting that shit here then you would be correct.

    Well, that or seeing his social worker.

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    "Lockett was convicted of shooting a teenager and watching as she was buried alive; Warner was convicted of raping and murdering his girlfriend’s 11-month-old baby."

    I guess this makes me more of an eye for an eye person, because if ever there were a time to "accidentally" subject a human to some cruel and unusual punishment, it would be for the processing of Mr. Lockett and Mr. Warner.

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    I have no problem with executing vile criminals but I don't trust the government to accurately convict such criminals.
    gnaw on it

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    8th amendment? Did he exercise his victims 8th amendment rights when he shot her and then buried her alive?

    I hope he died very slowly, and very painfully.

    And I don't give a fuck what color he was.

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    Our last execution was 1967, by hanging.
    I can think of at least a dozen people found guilty of horrific crimes since then, whose very existence in protected custody surely causes the families ongoing grief.

    I'm conflicted, but firing squad seems fair.

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    He was born to die.

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    I disagree with the death penalty on a vaguely moral
    Stand point but I am conscious that on occasions where people commit these terrible crimes they then try and kill themselves indicating they would rather die than face the repercussions . This makes me more inclined to make these sorts face the repercussions .

    As a uk citizen who had a close friend in prison and had the misfortune of having to visit him am not sure what USA prisons are like but it's fucking horrendous ... Grim doesn't cover it .
    So I might be swayed to how horrendous a life of glass in my food piss in my drinks and new shit stains into clothes every time they came back from the laundry is . If that was my fate i would take the injection any day .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Fucking aye! You posted two minutes before me...
    Guess he's two minutes sharper that you, eh dickforbrains ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODShowtime View Post
    I have no problem with executing vile criminals but I don't trust the government to accurately convict such criminals.
    Exactly, I don't trust and love my government enough to give it the power to execute citizens...

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    Not even if the government claimed they were TERRORISTS ?!??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    8th amendment? Did he exercise his victims 8th amendment rights when he shot her and then buried her alive?

    I hope he died very slowly, and very painfully.

    And I don't give a fuck what color he was.

    I'm not anti-death penalty in its current carnation, Von....

    Because as Dennis Miller said in one of his acts before he went all Foxy, "there are just some evil motherfuckers out there".....

    However, IMO, there's a big difference between putting the guy to sleep then the lethal injection, and using an incorrect mix of chemicals so that his vein explodes and eventually results in him having a heart attack to die.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post

    Because as Dennis Miller said...
    I wouldn't preface my wisdom with that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I wouldn't preface my wisdom with that...

    I did say it was before his Fox days....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    8th amendment? Did he exercise his victims 8th amendment rights when he shot her and then buried her alive?

    I hope he died very slowly, and very painfully.

    And I don't give a fuck what color he was.
    Agreed. It's only cruel and usual if you repair his heart, resuscitate him, and then kill the piece of shit again in the same fashion.

    The only thing botched was they didn't off piece of shit #2.
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    There should be some standard of evidence to have the death penalty. And then they should get a timely and fair appeal and then WRAP IT UP. Hangings seem like they were cheap and effective. Firing squads don't cost much either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODShowtime View Post
    There should be some standard of evidence to have the death penalty. And then they should get a timely and fair appeal and then WRAP IT UP. Hangings seem like they were cheap and effective. Firing squads don't cost much either.
    Executing people in the US costs a lot more than locking them up until they die because of the legal costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Not even if the government claimed they were TERRORISTS ?!??
    Even less so.

    It's fucking unbelievable that Obama, a democrat fucking constitutional lawyer of all things, sits down and decides who he will execute by drone plus whoever happens to be nearby at the time.

    It shows how astonishingly fucked up the US is at this point and makes you wonder how bad it's going to get when black jesus is replaced by someone even worse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post

    It shows how astonishingly fucked up the US is at this point and makes you wonder how bad it's going to get when black jesus is replaced by someone even worse...


    And, mind you, that's currently the "best" option, at least among candidates mentioned in the corporate media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Even less so.

    It's fucking unbelievable that Obama, a democrat fucking constitutional lawyer of all things, sits down and decides who he will execute by drone plus whoever happens to be nearby at the time.

    It shows how astonishingly fucked up the US is at this point and makes you wonder how bad it's going to get when black jesus is replaced by someone even worse...
    Just making sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post

    And, mind you, that's currently the "best" option...
    Yeah riight...

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    There are some women in politics that respond to the prevailing misanthropic atmosphere of rich white men by trying to out hawk them.

    Thatcher was one and Hillary appears to be another...

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/...24332720080422

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    Ever wish he'd just STFU and stop putting himself in situations that a real leader wouldn't invite? The list goes on and on an on with this clown, but this one...seriously...he needs to STFU.




    PERRY - Three men accused of killing one of four people kidnapped during an aborted robbery attempt were charged Monday with 14 felony counts apiece.


    Bond was denied for the three, who face charges of first-degree murder, rape, forcible sodomy, kidnapping, assault and battery, burglary and robbery.

    Clayton Derrell Lockett, 23, and Alfonzo Laron Veasey Lockett, 17, both of Ponca City, and Shawn C. Mathis, 26, of Enid, also were charged with conspiracy to commit the crimes. The Locketts are cousins.

    George Lockett Sr., Alfonzo Lockett's father, said his son and his nephew told him that Clayton Lockett shot and killed Stephanie Michelle Neiman, 18, who graduated last month from Perry High School. They also told him that Clayton Lockett forced the two others to take part in the crimes, Lockett told The Oklahoman .

    George Lockett said Clayton Lockett told him "Alfonzo had no involvement in it and that he did everything."

    George Lockett, who said he allowed Clayton Lockett to live with him after the nephew's release from prison in September, said Alfonzo Lockett made a bad decision in leaving with his older cousin.

    Authorities said the crime spree started when Clayton Lockett drove the younger Lockett and Mathis to the Perry home of Bobby Lee Bornt, 23. Bornt owed Clayton Lockett money.

    Bornt was tied up and beaten, authorities said. His 9-month-old son was in the house.

    During the assault, Neiman and an 18-year-old friend stopped by Bornt's house, authorities said.

    "It was bad timing," Perry police Lt. David Farrow said.

    Neiman's female friend told authorities she was pulled into the house and hit in the face with a shotgun. With a gun at her head, she was forced to call Neiman inside, police were told.
    Neiman also was hit with the shotgun and suffered a cut near her left eye, police were told.

    "That was when the stuff really started getting out of hand," George Lockett said.The young women were bound with duct tape. Neiman's friend was raped by all three men, authorities said.

    Bornt and his son and the two women then were driven to rural Kay County, police said. Clayton Lockett told the captives he was going to kill them all, the surviving victims said.

    Clayton Lockett told Neiman to get out of her pickup, and he shot her twice when she failed to give him her keys and the alarm code for the pickup, police were told.

    Mathis told police he dug a grave for Neiman and buried her with Alfonzo Lockett's help.

    The rape victim and Bornt told police they and Bornt's son then were brought back to Bornt's home.

    The three men left in Bornt's pickup. The car Clayton Lockett drove to Perry apparently was stolen and was impounded by police when officers spotted it parked outside Bornt's duplex.

    Jasper Lockett, 16, said his brother Alfonzo told him that Clayton Lockett threatened to kill him and Mathis if they went to police.

    Police said Mathis and Alfonzo Lockett admitted they took part in the assault on Bornt and helped tie up the two women and drive them to rural Kay County.

    Alfonzo Lockett showed authorities where Neiman was buried. Her mouth still was bound with duct tape, according to court records.

    Clayton Lockett was released from prison last August. He was sentenced to four years in prison after pleading guilty in 1996 in Kay County to a charge of conspiracy to commit embezzlement.

    In 1992, he pleaded guilty in Kay County to burglary and knowingly concealing stolen property. He received a seven-year prison sentence. Earlier that year, he pleaded no contest to two counts of intimidating state witnesses.

    Jasper Lockett said Clayton Lockett picked up his brother Thursday night to take him to an Enid nightspot. He said he tried to tell Alfonzo, who recently was released from a juvenile detention center, not to go.

    "He didn't leave with the purpose to kill somebody," Jasper Lockett said. "He said if they knew they were going to do that, he wouldn't have left. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was a bad choice."

    http://newsok.com/three-face-charges...656291/?page=2


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    There are some women in politics that respond to the prevailing misanthropic atmosphere of rich white men by trying to out hawk them.

    Thatcher was one and Hillary appears to be another...

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/...24332720080422

    I'd buy Thatcher each and every day, but Hillary? No.

    She's an opportunist that hitched her wagon to the wrong man, and despite his deviant sexual appetites...she was that "stand by her man" woman she told all of us she wasn't. She's no victim either. She's a willing participant and her role in the gun running escapade over in Bhengazi...I hope she goes to prison, because it DOES MATTER. She's drunk with power and deserves a jail cell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMaddVibe View Post
    I'd bury Thatcher each and every day,
    Sorry couldn't resist ... Hate the woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMaddVibe View Post
    She's drunk with power and deserves a jail cell!
    Yet she's a front runner for the Presidency...

    Appalling, isn't it ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Yeah riight...
    Well, who else is your mortal corporate media pushing right now?

    Jeb Bush - BCE. No further explanation required.

    Eddie Munster Ryan - Look up all the explanation of this sorry piece of Randtard shit and what he's all about in the 2012 threads.

    Willard Mittens Romney - I doubt he will be dumb enough to run again, but he's sure talking a lot lately, and he's not using that airtime to talk about Heavenly Father Elohim's plan for your life.

    Ted Cruz - A Canadian born son of a Batista loving coward. Yeah, even if he were legally eligible to run for the office, that's not something you want with access to "the button".

    Randtard Paul - Doesn't even have the one or two redeeming qualities of his father - and all the Ayn Rand cultism.

    This is what the GOP is offering. As bad as Hillary would be, any one of them would be far worse.
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    It doesn't really matter....

    Honestly, if the Republicans would just TRY to refine their platform JUST A LITTLE, they would have a realistic shot of squeaking out a victory in the general election....

    But they've actually gotten worse, so unless Hillary has an affair and they find some splooge on her pantssuit, it's a slam dunk....

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