I don't think they offered that model here. The only Fiats I've seen advertised here in decades were the Abarths.Originally Posted by Seshmeister
When I had my silly FIAT Coupe thing some twat stole the turbo logo one night. That kind of made sense to make their car worth 5K more but the wierd thing was they only stole one of them when there were two, one on each side.
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Oh we get snow. The lake is still relatively warm, get some cold Canadian air blowing across the warm water and the snow machine fires up.
The tally is more like one car, four Jeeps.But I get where I need to go. The car stays in the garage all winter, I don't run all season tires on it.
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They brought back the teeny 500 first, then two others (500L, 500X), and now the Miata based 124 roadster.
Alfa Romeo is coming back and will be sold at most Fiat dealers. The 4c is already here. Giulia will be out soon, with an SUV not too far behind.
That will be the new RWD/AWD platform shared with Dodge cars and crossovers. FCA has to get Giulia right the first time though, they want to compete with BMW and questionable quality at launch (which is an FCA trademark) isn't going to cut it.
It was fun while it lasted, they were fast enough 0-60 in 6 seconds.
It wasn't cheap to run though and over time bits and pieces stopped working or fell off.
My ex-sister in law had a Beemer, they ain't exactly Consumer Reports favorite car for reliability either. I think the BMW 3's are a bit better though. The Alfa looks bad ass, and they had a small following here. A dealership in Williamsville, NY sold used ones into the 90's...They brought back the teeny 500 first, then two others (500L, 500X), and now the Miata based 124 roadster.
Alfa Romeo is coming back and will be sold at most Fiat dealers. The 4c is already here. Giulia will be out soon, with an SUV not too far behind.
That will be the new RWD/AWD platform shared with Dodge cars and crossovers. FCA has to get Giulia right the first time though, they want to compete with BMW and questionable quality at launch (which is an FCA trademark) isn't going to cut it.
It's funny, one of the older Jeep dealerships here had an Alfa store a couple doors down back in the 80's. Now it's all under the same company. He didn't get the Fiats though, they went to one of the other dealer groups and it's already been sold to the guy who has the local Kia and Mitsu lots.
Alpha Romeo's used to have a terrible reputation for reliability I would still be a bit wary of them.
I once test drove one from a dealer and after about a mile, clouds of electrical smoke starting pouring from the dashboard.
To be fair this was the late 90s but still...
Used to see quite a lot of GTV's back in the day which were very pretty but not very practical.
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FCA had problems with the launches of Dart and Cherokee. Software issues with the new 9 speed transmissions. Cherokee was delayed because of it. I think that Giulia has been delayed as well. I'm kind of surprised they don't have more problems with the Hemi cars.
I had mentioned I was bringing my SRT-6 to a car show and not one of the Jeeps. A member of the local Jeep FB group asked if the car had been reliable, and I replied why wouldn't it be reliable, it's Mercedes underneath, not a Fiat. $50 for plates, $100 for the full synthetic oil change, and any gas I burned is all it's cost me to run this year.
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An all wheel drive Challenger will be announced at the NAIAS show in January but it won't be Hellcat powered.
What's the purpose? Is there a market for AWD muscle cars?
Not offered on Camaro or Mustang, so why not? And being the Challenger and Charger are on the same platform, it probably didn't cost too much to develop. Minimal risk.
Unless you're into road racing what's the purpose of having AWD? Is it so rich dudes who buy Challengers won't crash them on the way home from the dealership? If that's the case they should include AWD as an option on the SRTs and the Hellcats.
The Hellcat powered Grand Cherokee will only be RWD. FCA doesn't have a transfer case that can handle 707 hp.
I don't know why they couldn't produce one. I've seen 4 wheel drive vehicles in hill climbs and mud bogs with way more than 707 horsepower. Reliability might be a problem though.
The hill climb guys aren't making warranty claims for broken cases, either. Those rigs are mostly DIY, built not bought.
I still don't get the why part. Where is the market for AWD muscle cars?
Guys with small dicks who live where it snows a lot?
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Rich guys with small dicks who buy American buy Corvettes. An AWD Challenger isn't going to handle much better than a RWD Challenger in the snow unless they start putting snow tires on them.
Continental all-season tires, maybe.
The Michelin Pilot Super Sports I run aren't any good under 32 degrees. Max performance summer tires.
I have a hard time believing these AWD Challengers are intended for use in areas that have harsh winters. If anything I would assume they were intended for people who like to haul ass on curvy roads.
It's like those Porche Cayenne things, I can't be the only person that immediately assumes the driver is an asshole.
The Porsche Cayenne is more of a crossover or a small SUV than a muscle car but they do pack a wallop.It's like those Porche Cayenne things, I can't be the only person that immediately assumes the driver is an asshole.
My old boss had one of those. He was a douche, and it was a horrible vehicle.It's like those Porche Cayenne things, I can't be the only person that immediately assumes the driver is an asshole.
They usually pack a prick...
How good are they at jumping though?
I've seen that before. Funny shit.
Speaking of jumping. I loaned my 72 Blazer to my boss to go wheeling knowing that he was prone to driving borrowed vehicles like he stole them. When he brought it back all 4 rims were bent and it had no oil pressure.The dude that went with him said everything was cool until he saw some other guys jumping their two wheel drive pick ups. He figured 4 wheel drives were sturdier and jumped the blazer a couple times. Instead of paying for the repairs he traded me a car and cash for it. The legal owner of the car went with me to the DMV, filled out lost title paperwork and I registered it no problem. The next day I found out my boss had traded it in on a used van then repoed it after they repoed the van. I decided I'd better sell it before the real owner found out I had it. In the end I turned a small profit but it wasn't worth the hassle or the sleep I lost thinking I might get busted for stealing the car from the car lot.
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I fucking nearly died driving with Z-rated summer tires in a snow fall. I just assumed they were all seasons...
Did you ask him if he likes his VW Toureg?
When the rain really comes down here you see all kinds of sports cars along the sides of the road in the bushes or in a ditch that hydroplaned off the interstate because they had high speed rated tires that are worthless in the rain and snow.
I almost went into a graveyard, which might have cut out the middleman....
I got a ticket for exhibition of speed, doing a burnout on a dead end street in front of a cemetery the day after I got my driver's license. The same cop pulled me over earlier and gave me a warning because I squealed my tires pulling away from a stop sign. I'm sure he knew I was lying when I claimed it was unintentional but he cut me some slack anyway. He must have been following me for at least a half hour before I figured the coast was clear and pulled down that dead end street.
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And some feel the internal combustion engine should go away! Skip to 1:25 of this first video, and see what it's like to stand near a 10,000 HP fire fucking breathing Hemi V8. If that doesn't give you a boner, you ain't a man! FACT!
Go to the 2:40 mark of this one if you want to get right to ferocity of the blip of the throttle.
The smell of burning Nitro is like nothing else and the sounds/feeling, well if anyone hasn't been right next to them, you must experience it at least once in a lifetime!
Until I got a "taste" for it, breathing in the fumes would make me feel like I was suffocating and I'd run away. I had to find a way to stomach it because I wanted to be right there watching as they were warming them up, seating the clutch, etc.
Now, I go right up to the front of the line in the pits and just stand there while they're running, plugging my ears of course. It cracks me up every time when they finish and I turn around to find I'm usually the only "fan" left there right on top the rope line without a gas mask.
You're gonna hear the angels sing...
I think I saw FORD and NickDickless getting the fuck out of there, in that first video! They thought they were there to hear the whine of a battery powered weedeater.
Fuck you old man, you're a pussy that doesn't even change his own oil....
We both know I spend more time in the garage getting my hands dirty, than you've ever dreamed of. That's why I have man hands, and you have soft feminine hands, with manicured nails.
They used to run the Jet Car Finals at the local drags in my hometown. We were 20 feet or so behind the staging area about even with the bleach box right next to the track behind a short chain link fence. Two Jet cars were staging. I just noticed everyone else had moved away from the fence and started moving myself but it was too late. The blast was just enough to burn all the hair off my legs. Good thing it was only staging. The blast from the jet engines at launch would probably set you on fire.
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