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    American IT workers forced to train 'guest workers' hired to replace them!

    U.S. workers protested job losses to foreign workers by displaying American flags in their cubicles

    Computer World

    This is the story of an IT worker who was replaced by a worker on an H-1B visa, one of a number of visa holders, mostly from India, who took jobs at this U.S. company. Computerworld is not going to use the worker's name or identify the companies involved to protect the former employee from retaliation. For purposes of this story, the worker has been given initials -- A.B. (They're not the person's real initials.)

    At A.B.'s company, about 220 IT jobs have been lost to offshore outsourcing over the last year. A.B. is telling the story because, initially, there was little knowledge among fellow employees about H-1B visa holders and how they are used. They didn't know that offshore outsourcing firms are the largest users of H-1B visas, or exactly how this visa facilitates IT job losses in the U.S.

    "I think once we learned about it, we became angrier toward the U.S. government than we were with the people that were over here from India," A.B. said, "because the government is allowing this."

    The IT workers at this firm first learned of the offshore outsourcing threat through rumors. Later, the IT staff was called into an auditorium and heard directly from the CIO about the plan to replace them. It would take months for the transition to be completed, in part because of some new system installations.

    Many younger IT workers found jobs and left. Mainframe workers were apparently in demand and also able to find new jobs. But older workers with skills in open systems, storage and SAN faced a harder time. About half the IT staffers, mostly the older ones, would stay to the end.

    Training the replacement workers involved holding morning-long WebEx meetings several times a week with offshore outsourcing staff based in India. The sessions were recorded as details about the environment, including diagrams and scripts, were shared.

    As they moved closer to the termination date for the U.S. workers, the overseas employees would follow or shadow, via WebEx sessions, everything an IT worker did during the day. The outsourcing firm's onshore staff helped to coordinate these efforts, but also worked to untangle the meaning of some of the questions.

    The overseas workers did not appear to have much practical experience, and the same questions were asked repeatedly, A.B. said.

    Before they lost their jobs, A.B.'s co-workers decided to made a subtle and symbolic protest over what was happening: As the H-1B visa workers gradually took over the offices once occupied by U.S. workers, one employee brought in a bunch of small American flags on sticks.

    The flags were retrofitted so they could fit into the walls of the cubicles.

    The flags were displayed, cubicle after cubicle, much like way flags are hung on homes in a residential neighborhoods on the 4th of July. They were visible to anyone walking down the hall. "That was the only thing that we could do," A.B. said. "We felt that we were making a statement.


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    Our help desk is based in India. They suck.
    Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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    Soon your job will be there...

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    This is the REAL immigration problem in this country. It's not Jose cutting your lawn or Maria working as a maid at the Motel 666.

    It's the IT industry, that might as well stand for "India Takeover" given the outsourcing and insourcing from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Soon your job will be there...
    Not yet. Not until they figure out how to ship from there to here in a couple hours. Most of what I make goes one town over, which is ten minutes away.

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    Well, "yet" isn't very far off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    This is the REAL immigration problem in this country. It's not Jose cutting your lawn or Maria working as a maid at the Motel 666.

    It's the IT industry, that might as well stand for "India Takeover" given the outsourcing and insourcing from there.
    It's both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Well, "yet" isn't very far off...
    When we get to the point that shipping from India to Ohio takes a couple hours, I'll be dead and won't give a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    When we get to the point that shipping from India to Ohio takes a couple hours, I'll be dead and won't give a shit.
    They're not going to be shipping jack shit to Ohio in the near future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    When we get to the point that shipping from India to Ohio takes a couple hours, I'll be dead and won't give a shit.
    They may work out how to print it before you die.

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    He's not worried, someone in human resources told him his job was safe...

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    I know better than that. Our HR is the most inhuman group in the building...if they bother to show up.

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    They're probably being outsourced to India as we speak...

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    That may be a trade up.

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    Yeah, but you gotta forecast farther out than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    I know better than that. Our HR is the most inhuman group in the building...if they bother to show up.
    Usually some of the best paid people in the organisation too, funny that...

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    To be fair, a lot of our support is "regional" and covers multiple sites in the area. They just don't come to our building much. So little that if they show up we joke about who is getting fired.

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    Or a drug screen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    This is the REAL immigration problem in this country. It's not Jose cutting your lawn or Maria working as a maid at the Motel 666.

    It's the IT industry, that might as well stand for "India Takeover" given the outsourcing and insourcing from there.
    Nice try....

    Jose piles in 12-19 people in 1550 sq ft space and adds a room or two without pulling a permit, using building materials stolen from a job site where 4 illegals from his house are working without getting taxed properly.

    Meanwhile Maria is pregnant with her 5th kid, her first on US soil, where she sends the other 4 to a free education, hospital visits, and food stamps.

    One of Jose's nephews living at the house rapes a 14 year girl while at gym class and his cousin also living at the house is selling drugs with several other chollos that just stole a migrant farm workers truck while drinking, DUI driving and hit and killed 6 people on their way to a movie.


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    Yep...

    Dude...

    Some fucking scup mexicans here just got caught fucking someone's cows...

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    The Kinsey Reports in the US around the time you would like to live - 1950 found that the percentage of people who had sexual interaction with animals at some point in their lives as 8% for men and 3.6% for women, and claimed it was 40–50% in people living near farms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The Kinsey Reports in the US around the time you would like to live - 1950 found that the percentage of people who had sexual interaction with animals at some point in their lives as 8% for men and 3.6% for women, and claimed it was 40–50% in people living near farms.
    Well, duh. That's the whole reason to have a farm. Geez...
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    That's one of the many reasons the real men had guns in 1950...

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    To threaten their animals with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    To threaten their animals with?
    It's the only way to keep em from telling what goes on after dark!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The Kinsey Reports in the US around the time you would like to live - 1950 found that the percentage of people who had sexual interaction with animals at some point in their lives as 8% for men and 3.6% for women, and claimed it was 40–50% in people living near farms.
    Just ask Repuke politician & activist Neal Horsley about that. His name is slightly ironic, considering he apparently prefers mules to horses.......



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