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    Eeas anniversary and no party here?

    Surprised and shocked is what I am. I guess work and regular life got in the way.This is the first album I think about when I think about summer music. It's been a very fast 28 years.


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    Damn... I had to wait till September, coz my Mom had offered me the first Van Hagar, thinking I would enjoy (she knew my fave band was Van Halen, but she was a train late)...
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    I still wanna know when Dave first started working these songs up with the band. Mikey has said that Dave was "rehearsing" with his new band before he quit Van Halen. And the time line kinda matches up, if you take into account that CBS pictures went tits up in October of '85.
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    I never heard Mikey say that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I never heard Mikey say that...
    He did.

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    This one is funny...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    He did.
    Let's hear it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Let's hear it...
    Looking for it now. And why would you think I'd make that up?

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    I just wanna hear it...

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    I'm almost certain it is in an audio interview...I think I may have found it.

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    Geez, I've sat through over an hour of Anthony interviews...ain't got the one yet. Scraps probably knows the exact one right off the top of his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I still wanna know when Dave first started working these songs up with the band. Mikey has said that Dave was "rehearsing" with his new band before he quit Van Halen. And the time line kinda matches up, if you take into account that CBS pictures went tits up in October of '85.
    I seem to recall Mike saying something to that effect, but I figured it was just a remark he was robotically programmed to make once things started to go south. He slagged his pal Hags quite a bit along with the brothers in '96, and then, said he only did so to keep his job in the forward to Hags book. I call BS on Dave having the EEAS line up ready before he quit, but wtf do I know? I wasn't there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    I seem to recall Mike saying something to that effect, but I figured it was just a remark he was robotically programmed to make once things started to go south. He slagged his pal Hags quite a bit along with the brothers in '96, and then, said he only did so to keep his job in the forward to Hags book. I call BS on Dave having the EEAS line up ready before he quit, but wtf do I know? I wasn't there.
    Nah, I'm not saying Dave had the full EEAS lineup up and running before he quite Van Halen. I've spent the past two hours scouring Mikey interviews and can't find it but it is out there and he did say that when they were working on the next record after 1984, Dave would come in, get all pissed off and leave and go to his house and work with his new band. Now, that could be speculation on Mikey's part. But...the movie deal fell through when CBS pictures closed in October '85. So it kinda fits that he might have been working on that music before he split from VH.

    Not that any of this matters. It's just one of those things I wonder about.

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    And maybe Mikey just meant a group of guys Dave was working with on the songs for the movie. Fuck it - let's call Mikey right now and get it straight from him. Sesh!! Get Mikey on the phone, pronto!

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    I reckon Billy would be a more reliable witness...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashstralia View Post
    I reckon Billy would be a more reliable witness...
    Well call him up!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I still wanna know when Dave first started working these songs up with the band. Mikey has said that Dave was "rehearsing" with his new band before he quit Van Halen. And the time line kinda matches up, if you take into account that CBS pictures went tits up in October of '85.
    Sobolewski was probably drunk on Hagar's crap tequila when he said that, and what he really remembers was Dave recording the "Crazy From The Heat" EP before he quit the band.
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    I left it in my other pants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Sobolewski was probably drunk on Hagar's crap tequila when he said that, and what he really remembers was Dave recording the "Crazy From The Heat" EP before he quit the band.
    I had the same thought since the '84 tour ended in July of '84. But...that doesn't sync up with Dave's assertion that it was all ready to go and story boarded prior to CBS dumping their motion picture arm...

    "The idea for the movie was basically a musical with a very left of center plot. There were a number of rewrites, but the general script for Crazy from the Heat was a story about Dave (and keep in mind all these characters are right out of California Girls).

    Landed a 10 million dollar budget for the movie, and there was to be a couple million-dollar director's fee. It was a huge deal, especially since I was first time everything".

    The entire album of Eat 'Em and Smile was designed to match up to the scenes for the movie that never came to be because, unbeknownst to us, CBS Pictures was in trouble. If I remember correctly, we were about four weeks away from the start date. We had a cast. We had everything made, all the costumes, et cetera. Every shot was storyboarded.

    But CBS was changing hands, parts of it were being eliminated. The boiled the movie division, decided that they didn't want to be in the business anymore. There were some eight pictures I think that were green lighted and setting up to go, ours being one of them.

    I sued CBS. I went to court, got the director's fee. Never did make the picture-- made semi-efforts at shopping it to a couple of other movie companies, but it was something that was born out of imagination and vision."

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    Now, all of that, except for two sentences, could be pure Dave bullshit. But...it does kinda fit into my whole timeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Nah, I'm not saying Dave had the full EEAS lineup up and running before he quite Van Halen. I've spent the past two hours scouring Mikey interviews and can't find it but it is out there and he did say that when they were working on the next record after 1984, Dave would come in, get all pissed off and leave and go to his house and work with his new band. Now, that could be speculation on Mikey's part. But...the movie deal fell through when CBS pictures closed in October '85. So it kinda fits that he might have been working on that music before he split from VH.

    Not that any of this matters. It's just one of those things I wonder about.
    It's a no brainer. Once Ed had his own studio the band wasn't going to work anywhere else. Dave was pissed that he had to drive from Pasadena to Howdy Doody Mountain and now the creative process was on Ed's turf. That had to suck. Plus, the other three guys in the band were married and had families. Dave was still doing lines of coke off of stripper's asses and covering the local college cheerleading team in whipped creme naked on a Twister mat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BumBahDeeDah View Post
    Surprised and shocked is what I am. I guess work and regular life got in the way.This is the first album I think about when I think about summer music. It's been a very fast 28 years.
    I guess the fans are so fed up with these guys, nobody cares anymore.

    I don't know the exact release dates of any album, just the year, but I hope in two years time, if there's any of us left, someone who knows will start a thread that week to properly celebrate 30 years of the BEST album in hard rock music history.

    There shall be week-long celebrations including drunken posts, no faggity politics arguing, pictures of pinups everywhere & possibly a little bit of ball touching.

    Make it so.

    Cheers!
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    If the band doesn't even care enough about their historic milestones... why the hell should the fans??

    Maybe this anniversary isn't all that monumental... or maybe walking on eggshells is more prudent than reminding a couple of Dutch Pricks of something that they thoroughly hated. Roth has far more to lose by resurfacing this milestone...
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    Well, he did resurface the EEAS era in the 2nd or 3rd episode of the Roth Show and that didn't keep VH from touring the globe. You know, Japan..... Australia.............. Oshkosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post

    I don't know the exact release dates of any album, just the year, but I hope in two years time, if there's any of us left, someone who knows will start a thread that week to properly celebrate 30 years of the BEST album in hard rock music history.
    S L O W L Y put the bong down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    S L O W L Y put the bong down.
    I don't smoke, I drink.

    What's the best album in hard rock history for you, then?

    I guess I should tell you I vastly prefer Dave solo over any Van Halen & EEAS, although not my favourite Dave album - that would be Your Filthy Little Mouth -, was truly a masterpiece & certainly the one that best represented his Diamond Dave persona.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    I don't smoke, I drink.

    What's the best album in hard rock history for you, then?

    I guess I should tell you I vastly prefer Dave solo over any Van Halen & EEAS, although not my favourite Dave album - that would be Your Filthy Little Mouth -, was truly a masterpiece & certainly the one that best represented his Diamond Dave persona.

    Cheers!
    I like a little of the EEAS era stuff. Love "Ladies Night In Buffalo". Well, I did until I saw that video somebody posted above. I forgot how much worse Vai was on that stuff live, than he was in the studio. No soul. No stage presence. No persona. He looks like a fucking robot when the batteries are going dead on the remote control. I could go the rest of my life without hearing most of it again, though.

    I like some of his solo songs. As far as an entire album, I'd have to say ALAE is my favorite from Dave's solo catalogue. He has a knack for covering songs, and making them better than the original. Even Vai was good on "Tobacco Road". Love Dave's version of "Soul Kitchen".

    It's a shame you are of the age where the EEAS stuff was your introduction to Dave.

    I often wonder who butchered the CVH stuff the worst. Clichegar's vocals, or Vai's guitar? They could probably make a fortune re-recording all their material the right way. The VH stuff without Clichegar and the EEAS stuff without Vai!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I like a little of the EEAS era stuff. Love "Ladies Night In Buffalo". Well, I did until I saw that video somebody posted above. I forgot how much worse Vai was on that stuff live, than he was in the studio. No soul. No stage presence. No persona. He looks like a fucking robot when the batteries are going dead on the remote control. I could go the rest of my life without hearing most of it again, though.

    I like some of his solo songs. As far as an entire album, I'd have to say ALAE is my favorite from Dave's solo catalogue. He has a knack for covering songs, and making them better than the original. Even Vai was good on "Tobacco Road". Love Dave's version of "Soul Kitchen".

    It's a shame you are of the age where the EEAS stuff was your introduction to Dave.

    I often wonder who butchered the CVH stuff the worst. Clichegar's vocals, or Vai's guitar? They could probably make a fortune re-recording all their material the right way. The VH stuff without Clichegar and the EEAS stuff without Vai!
    So your beef is with the live stuff? I get that, but I'm talking about the album, here.

    And no, my introduction to Dave wasn't Eat 'em & Smile. It was actually Van Halen I & Fair Warning.

    I won't say Dave solo is better than Van Halen, but I prefer it. A lot. While I do like Van Halen, I'm a Dave fan first. As for Van Hagar, it's not even that I don't like it, it's just that I have no interest in it whatsoever. Since here the Dave vs. Hagar thing wasn't a thing, I had no reason to pick sides & have actually listened to quite a few of the Van Hagar albums. Apart from "I Can't Stop Loving You", which is a good song & the intro to "Poundcake", I really cannot remember anything else from those albums. That's just how bland & uninteresting they are to me.

    If it wasn't for Dave, I'd have no use for Van Halen.

    And yeah, A Little Ain't Enough is EXCELLENT from beginning to end. It might be better than EEAS, but it's not as Diamond Dave as EEAS is, if you get what I'm saying.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    So your beef is with the live stuff? I get that, but I'm talking about the album, here.
    No, my beef is equal with the live stuff, and studio stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    And yeah, A Little Ain't Enough is EXCELLENT from beginning to end. It might be better than EEAS, but it's not as Diamond Dave as EEAS is, if you get what I'm saying.
    I totally get what you're saying. "not as Diamond Dave as EEAS is", is exactly what's wrong with the EEAS era stuff, in my opinion. Dave was quickly becoming a parody of himself. Taking himself too seriously, while trying to prove he wasn't taking himself serious. To me, the EEAS stuff feels and sounds, like there is zero chemistry. It sounds like 3 solo guys trying to be in a band, with a drummer. The harmonies are fucking horrible. Dave harmonizing with himself, just doesn't cut it for me. I totally remember how disappointed I was the first time I heard "Yankee Rose". Every bit as disappointed as I was the first time I heard "Jump". Fortunately most of the rest of 1984 made me forget about that disappointment. The rest of EEAS did not do that for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I totally get what you're saying. "not as Diamond Dave as EEAS is", is exactly what's wrong with the EEAS era stuff, in my opinion. Dave was quickly becoming a parody of himself. Taking himself too seriously, while trying to prove he wasn't taking himself serious. To me, the EEAS stuff feels and sounds, like there is zero chemistry. It sounds like 3 solo guys trying to be in a band, with a drummer. The harmonies are fucking horrible. Dave harmonizing with himself, just doesn't cut it for me. I totally remember how disappointed I was the first time I heard "Yankee Rose". Every bit as disappointed as I was the first time I heard "Jump". Fortunately most of the rest of 1984 made me forget about that disappointment. The rest of EEAS did not do that for me.
    I get what you're saying too. But it was, in fact, that over-the-topness that sold it to me.

    The harmonies didn't bother me one bit, I absolutely love the cruisin' sound of "Ladies Nite in Buffalo?", the melodies in "Big Trouble", the bluesy sound of "Tobacco Road", the swing in "That's Life", the party attitude of "Goin' Crazy", etc...

    That album is a perfect representation of everything that is grate about the idealized 80s. It's so 80s it hurts. Fuck, it's even sort of like a parody of the 80s in itself.

    As a bonus, if you search for "Eat 'Em and Smile" using google.pt or google.es, you get the tracklist for Sonrisa Salavaje.

    I guess since we see & understand each other's point of view, we'll have to agree to disagree.

    Ball touch?

    Cheers!

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    Waiddaminute, it just hit me.

    We were discussing a David Lee Roth album.

    There was actually a true, bona fide David Lee Roth related discussion right here at the Roth Army!

    Wow, what a day! What a treat! We should mark this day in our calendars! Who knows when it will happen again? Probably never.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
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    Are you implying something, Donnie?

    Cheers!

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