Ramones drummer Tommy Ramone dies age 65

[DONNIEP]

No, but he's gotta be the most nervous man on the planet right now. Odds are definitely not in his favor.....

Second most nervous man - you forgot about Barry Gibb.

[Nitro Express]

I want to go see the Middle East of the Indiana Jones movies. You know, where the people are all friendly and don't go around cutting off other people's head and stuff. Well, at least not tanned white people's heads.

I always heard Beirut was fabulous in it's heyday. My experience with the middle east is Israel, Jordon, and Egypt. It's an interesting place if you are into history and looking at ruins. Outdoors sports are fun there as well. I did a lot of wind surfing on the Sea of Galilee and scuba dived the Red Sea (best diving I ever did). I actually got my scuba training in Israel. Would I want to be there now? Hell no!

[FORD]

I wouldn't say The Ramones suck but I wasn't a fan either. They were together for over twenty years. That's a lot longer than most bands make it and the original members were all still alive when they decided to call it quits. They weren't all active members of the band then but they were still alive and kicking.

Probably the biggest irony is the fact that the two original members who were there all the way, were the ones who couldn't stand each other. (That would be Joey & Johnny, of course. Pretty much polar opposites, politically and otherwise)

[Nitro Express]

No, but he's gotta be the most nervous man on the planet right now. Odds are definitely not in his favor.....

Ah he could live a long time. His band died. It had nothing to do with him. Once you lose Joey or Johnny it's over. Everyone else could be replaced.

[FORD]

Second most nervous man - you forgot about Barry Gibb.

Nah, I think poor Barry is just too goddamned sad to be nervous. Still can't forgive him for helping to create disco, but you have to sympathize with anybody who had three younger brothers and had to bury them all.

[Nitro Express]

Probably the biggest irony is the fact that the two original members who were there all the way, were the ones who couldn't stand each other. (That would be Joey & Johnny, of course. Pretty much polar opposites, politically and otherwise)

What else could those guys do? They were misfits. They were smart to stick with it. Those two guys are who made the band. Nobody could fill in for either one of them.

[DONNIEP]

Nah, I think poor Barry is just too goddamned sad to be nervous. Still can't forgive him for helping to create disco, but you have to sympathize with anybody who had three younger brothers and had to bury them all.

I liked disco. Big shocker, right? But then again I liked dancing with chicks so...And man you are right - ol' Barry is one more sad dude. I saw an interview with him and he was talking about how he really never got along with any of his brothers and how it's basically devastated him to lose them all. If I was him I'd be more devastated over the loss of that glorious hair he had. But I'm kinda shallow.

[FORD]

Ah he could live a long time. His band died. It had nothing to do with him. Once you lose Joey or Johnny it's over. Everyone else could be replaced.

Marky wasn't an original, but he was in the band much longer than Tommy was. That's why I think he might be subject to the "curse".

Not to say I actually believe there is a "curse", but when the entire band dies off before their time, you might think so.

[cadaverdog]

Probably the biggest irony is the fact that the two original members who were there all the way, were the ones who couldn't stand each other. (That would be Joey & Johnny, of course. Pretty much polar opposites, politically and otherwise)

I read the shit about Johnny being into Nazi shit even though Joey was a jew. I think it was Nitro who said Joey was a nerd. He was more of a dork than a nerd. In early performances of The Doors Morrison looks like a dork too. McCartney looked like he had a nervous twitch that made him look like a scrawny cow with a fly on his head.

[vandeleur]

Yeah the curse is cheap speed and poor record deals

[DONNIEP]

Yeah the curse is cheap speed

Who knew that was bad for you? hahahaha

[FORD]

What else could those guys do? They were misfits.

No, the Misfits were another band entirely. But their early stuff definitely had a Ramones influence........



That song could have easily been on Rocket to Russia.

And then there's the fact that Marky has been working with Jerry Only in recent years (though I refuse to call that fucking abortion "The Misfits" regardless of what Jerry wants to call it.)

[FORD]

Yeah the curse is cheap speed and poor record deals

Certainly didn't help matters any. Maybe if Joey, Johnny, and Tommy had been as rich as some of their musical peers, they might have had better health care options.

Sadly DeeDee probably would have still ended up a casualty though. The Needle and the Damage Done, as Neil Young would say.....

[Nitro Express]

Better to kick off early than to destroy your image. You might end up like Van Halen.

[Nitro Express]

I read the shit about Johnny being into Nazi shit even though Joey was a jew. I think it was Nitro who said Joey was a nerd. He was more of a dork than a nerd. In early performances of The Doors Morrison looks like a dork too. McCartney looked like he had a nervous twitch that made him look like a scrawny cow with a fly on his head.

Joey was a dork. A cool dork. That was the appeal.

[Nitro Express]

Actually it was Ace Frehley who was into the Nazi stuff. Johnny Ramone was just a Republican.

[FORD]

Better to kick off early than to destroy your image. You might end up like Van Halen.

No, the Misfits would be the punk version of Van Halen. And any Misfits lineup without Glenn Danzig is as bad as Van Hagar.

Only difference here is in the Misfits, even Jerry's brother got sick of him eventually. Doyle finally told him to fuck off and toured with Danzig. That would be like Alex joining the DLR Band around 1999 or so.

[cadaverdog]

Actually it was Ace Frehley who was into the Nazi stuff. Johnny Ramone was just a Republican.

According to my sources it was both. Wiki never lies.

[FORD]

I have read things that suggests that Johnny's beliefs were far to the right of "mainstream conservatism". Reportedly Joey wrote "The KKK Took My Baby Away" about Johnny, who literally did steal Joey's girlfriend.

It also might explain why a Jewish kid like Joey would write lyrics like this.....


I'm a shock trooper in a stupor
Yes I am.
I'm a Nazi schatze
Y'know I fight for fatherland
Little German boy
Being pushed around
Little German boy
In a German town
Today your love, tomorrow the world

[ashstralia]

I'm cool with the fact I know nothing about rock music.

The three most overrated bands in history are:
1) The Beatles.
2) The Rolling Stones
3) U2.

There. I said it.

[vandeleur]

I'm cool with the fact I know nothing about rock music.

The three most overrated bands in history are:
1) U2
2) U2
3) U2.

There. I said it.

FIXED IT FOR YA

The beatles really ? the rolling stones really really ?
You have to like one or the other its the law ... ya crazy person

[vandeleur]

The three most overated bands/people in history are :

Modern times

1. greenday
2. coldplay
3.Nirvana

wanted to put the bono band in but dont wanna give them publicity


Olden days

1. Eric crapton
2, Grateful dead
3 pink floyd


So there .

[ashstralia]

Nah, my much older cousin was Paul in one of our first Beatles tribute band. They were good, but nah.
There's a few Stones songs that are ok, U2 just suck. Have always sucked. I'm sure the other guys (the musicians) are nice people. I hope.

[ashstralia]

Nirvana gave us Grohley!

[vandeleur]

Nirvana gave us Grohley!

They were thieves tho ... thief of badgags

[ashstralia]

Handbags? God I need new glasses

[Nitro Express]

I love a bit of ramonage ... great fun live .

They were fun live. But after a half hour of them it was time to move on.

[Nitro Express]

I have read things that suggests that Johnny's beliefs were far to the right of "mainstream conservatism". Reportedly Joey wrote "The KKK Took My Baby Away" about Johnny, who literally did steal Joey's girlfriend.

It also might explain why a Jewish kid like Joey would write lyrics like this.....


I'm a shock trooper in a stupor
Yes I am.
I'm a Nazi schatze
Y'know I fight for fatherland
Little German boy
Being pushed around
Little German boy
In a German town
Today your love, tomorrow the world

Johnny was a thug. All the guy is known for is heavy down stroking and he was in the Ramones. He probably kept it going by laying his iron boot into Joey's ass. He sounded and kind of looked like Mo in The Three Stoges. Same attitude. Johnny was the Mo of the stooges and yes I know, that's another band.

[Nitro Express]

The swastika is the right. The hammer and sickle is the left. The carnage is the same.

[Nitro Express]

Dee Dee was the archetypical fuck-up whose life was a living disaster. He was a male prostitute, a would-be mugger, a heroin user and dealer, an accomplice to armed robbery—and a genius poet who was headed for an early grave, but was sidetracked by rock ‘n’ roll.”

Needless to say, I doubt we’ll see any more Dee Dee Ramones coming along in the near future. Rock ‘n’ roll these days is just too clean.

Turning "Fuck Up" into art. That's real rock and roll! The Ramones pulled it off. The problem today is the fuck ups have no talent and no vision. They are too lazy to do what the Ramones did. They would quit.

[Kristy]

I'm cool with the fact I know nothing about rock music.

The three most overrated bands in history are:
1) The Beatles.
2) The Rolling Stones
3) U2.

There. I said it.

Yeah, you said it.

Weirdo.

[Nitro Express]

Tommy Ramone definitely got us off the ground, the Ramones wouldn't have done anything without Tom. We were really green, we didn't know what the hell was going on, but Tommy was really annoying too. Tommy was a control freak, he was like a mother that was always upset with us.

But Tommy cracked real early on. All our drummers cracked, every couple years one would crack—and then the group would be really happy, because we'd get rid of someone.

No Tommy no Ramones. Sounds like his band mates said don't let the door hit you on the ass.

[Kristy]

No Tommy, no Replacements or Smithereens best albums.

You're such a hippie, Nitro.

[Satan]

Or Husker Du. They started out as a Ramones cover band.

[vandeleur]

Du \m/

[Diamondjimi]

The original four, doing what they do best. Hard to believe that all of them are gone now

The Ramones are fucking legends.

Fuck the haters. Long live The Ramones!!

Rest in peace Tommy, Joey, Johnny, Dee Dee.

[Kristy]

Or Husker Du. They started out as a Ramones cover band.

Lay off the dope. Seriously.

[Nitro Express]

The Ramones are fucking legends.

Fuck the haters. Long live The Ramones!!

Rest in peace Tommy, Joey, Johnny, Dee Dee.

Dee Dee Ramone in an interview said The Ramones were all about hate. LOL! Those guys were pretty rough on each other. People analyze them too much. Great art created by a bunch of dysfunctional fuck ups.

[Nitro Express]

No Tommy, no Replacements or Smithereens best albums.

You're such a hippie, Nitro.

I am wearing Birkenstocks right now.

[Satan]

Lay off the dope. Seriously.

But Marley's been growing such great shit since I designed an insulated geothermal powered grow house for him

And speaking of dope......