Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: The Myth of Bernie Sanders

  1. #1
    Banned
    REPENT AND SINS NO MO!

    Member No
    14
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Last Online
    11-04-2021 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    China
    Posts
    44,120
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,838
    Thanked 3,233 Times in 2,449 Posts


    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    0

    The Myth of Bernie Sanders

    Counterpunch.org

    By Thomas H. Naylor

    Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has recently been elevated to near godlike status by the political Left in the United States. Some of his fans have even suggested that he should challenge Barack Obama in the Democratic Presidential Primary. The more often he is accused of being a socialist by his political enemies on the Right, the more convinced the Left becomes that he surely walks on water.

    Although Sanders may have once been a socialist back in the 80s when he was Mayor of Burlington, today, a socialist he is not. Rather he behaves more like a technofascist disguised as a liberal, who backs all of President Obama’s nasty little wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen. Since he always “supports the troops,” Sanders never opposes any defense spending bill. He stands behind all military contractors who bring much-needed jobs to Vermont.

    Senator Sanders rarely misses a photo opportunity with Vermont National Guard troops when they are being deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq. He’s always at the Burlington International Airport when they return. If Sanders truly supported the Vermont troops, he would vote to end all of the wars posthaste.

    Senator Patrick Leahy, Senator Bernie Sanders, and Congressman Peter Welch could hardly contain their enthusiasm over the news that Burlington International Airport had been named as a possible site to house the Air Force’s new F-35 fighter jet scheduled to replace the Vermont Air National Guard’s aging fleet of F-16s. The new high-tech instruments of death will cost $115 million a pop in sharp contrast to the F-16s which cost a mere $20 million each.

    From whom might these F-35s protect Vermont? Possibly, Canada, separatist-minded Quebec, upstate New York, the New Hampshire Free State, or the Commonwealth of Massachusetts? Why on earth would anyone want to invade Vermont? Vermont has no military bases, no large cities, no important government installations, and no strategic resources unless you count an aging nuclear power plant. What if Canada, China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, or even the U.S. Marines were to invade the Green Mountain state? Just what would they do with it? Would all of the black-and-white Holsteins be confiscated, or perhaps the entire sugar maple crop be burned? Imagine trying to enslave freedom-loving Vermonters. Good luck!

    Vermont is too small, too rural, and too independent to be invaded by anyone. It is a threat to no one. Furthermore, Vermonters, not unlike the Swiss, tend to stick to their own knitting rather than intruding into the affairs of their neighbors. Vermont has always been that way and probably always will be.

    Major General Michael Dubie, head of the Vermont National Guard, has expressed the hope that the Vermont Guard might be morphed into a center for unmanned drone aircraft. Sanders, not unlike President Obama, thinks drones are cool.

    Sanders is the darling of the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee and the right-wing Likud government of Israel. He has done everything within his power to keep the myth of Islamic terrorism alive. He never questions the U.S. government’s unconditional support of Israeli acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians. It is as though these are nonevents.

    Last, but by no means least, is the U.S. government-owned Sandia National Laboratories. For over two years Sanders and former University of Vermont President Daniel Fogel have been encouraging Sandia to open a satellite laboratory in Vermont. Sandia, whose historical origins can be traced back to the Manhattan Project in World War II, designs, builds, and tests weapons of mass destruction. The Vermont laboratory envisaged by Sanders would not be involved with nuclear weapons but rather would be engaged in projects related to energy efficiency, renewable energy, and electric grids. Sandia, interestingly enough, is operated under contract by Lockheed Martin, the largest defense contractor in the world. Lockheed Martin produces F-35s and drones. General Dubie, who has close ties to Lockheed Martin, recently received an honorary doctorate from UVM. No one at UVM seems to care whether or not the University gets in bed with a manufacturer of atomic bombs.

    Bernie Sanders loves to rail against Corporate America, Wall Street, and the super-rich, but has nothing to show for it. He’s done little to constrain their power and influence. But everybody on the Left loves Bernie.

    Thomas H. Naylor is Founder of the Second Vermont Republic and Professor Emeritus of Economics at Duke University; co-author of Affluenza, Downsizing the U.S.A., and The Search for Meaning.


    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  2. #2
    Fuck this and fuck that
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    FORD's Avatar
    Member No
    32
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 AM
    Location
    Cascadia
    Posts
    58,679
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,391
    Thanked 6,285 Times in 4,714 Posts


    Rep Power
    143
    So all the anti-semite fringe media can do to slander Bernie is produce a case that he, as the Senator from Vermont, advocated for the Vermont National Guard to get some updated equipment?

    Uh, that's a Senator's job, Beavis. Patty Murray does some shilling for Boeing. It doesn't mean she supports everything their planes are used for. Only that she realizes the economic impact on this state if they weren't making the planes.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  3. #3
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    03-27-2024 @ 02:53 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    32,703
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,423
    Thanked 3,991 Times in 3,230 Posts


    Blog Entries
    15
    Rep Power
    94
    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    So all the anti-semite fringe media can do to slander Bernie is produce a case that he, as the Senator from Vermont, advocated for the Vermont National Guard to get some updated equipment?

    Uh, that's a Senator's job, Beavis. Patty Murray does some shilling for Boeing. It doesn't mean she supports everything their planes are used for. Only that she realizes the economic impact on this state if they weren't making the planes.
    They should rename the company Boing and make huge flying cocks.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  4. #4
    Banned
    REPENT AND SINS NO MO!

    Member No
    14
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Last Online
    11-04-2021 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    China
    Posts
    44,120
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,838
    Thanked 3,233 Times in 2,449 Posts


    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    So all the anti-semite fringe media can do to slander Bernie is produce a case that he, as the Senator from Vermont, advocated for the Vermont National Guard to get some updated equipment?
    You obviously didn't read the article...

    Either that or you're just being your usual intellectually dishonest self...

    I pick the latter...

  5. #5
    Fuck this and fuck that
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    FORD's Avatar
    Member No
    32
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 AM
    Location
    Cascadia
    Posts
    58,679
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,391
    Thanked 6,285 Times in 4,714 Posts


    Rep Power
    143
    I've read counterpunch enough to know that they blame everything on "the Jooooooooooos".

    In the case of the Likud PNAC Zionfascists, they happen to be correct. But Bernie is not at all part of that group, nor has he ever appeared at an AIPAC rally, or Fat Bastard Hagee's "CUFI" cult meetings, or any other such Zionfascist bullshit.

    He is not one of "them". Period.

  6. #6
    Banned
    REPENT AND SINS NO MO!

    Member No
    14
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Last Online
    11-04-2021 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    China
    Posts
    44,120
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,838
    Thanked 3,233 Times in 2,449 Posts


    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    0
    He's definitely one of "them" to me...

  7. #7
    Banned
    REPENT AND SINS NO MO!

    Member No
    14
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Last Online
    11-04-2021 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    China
    Posts
    44,120
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,838
    Thanked 3,233 Times in 2,449 Posts


    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    0

    The unfortunate truth about Bernie Sanders

    SOCIALISTWORKER.org


    DESPITE HIS own claims, Sanders has not been an antiwar leader. Ever since he won election to the House, he has taken either equivocal positions on U.S. wars or outright supported them.

    His hawkish positions--especially his decision to support Bill Clinton's 1999 Kosovo War--drove one of his key advisers, Jeremy Brecher, to resign from his staff. Brecher wrote in his resignation letter, "Is there a moral limit to the military violence you are willing to participate in or support?"

    So outraged were peace activists over Sanders' support of the Kosovo War that they occupied his office in 1999. Sanders had them arrested.

    Under the Bush regime, Sanders' militarism has only grown worse. While he called for alternative approaches to the war on Afghanistan, he failed to join the sole Democrat, Barbara Lee, to vote against Congress' resolution that gave George Bush a blank check to launch war on any country he deemed connected to the September 11 attacks.

    Ever since, he has voted for appropriations bills to fund the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, despite their horrific toll on the occupied peoples as well as U.S. soldiers.

    Sanders has been critical of the war on Iraq, but he has supported pro-war measures--such as a March 21, 2003, resolution stating, "Congress expresses the unequivocal support and appreciation of the nation to the President as Commander-in-Chief for his firm leadership and decisive action in the conduct of military operations in Iraq as part of the ongoing Global War on Terrorism."

    He also opposes immediate withdrawal from Iraq, despite the fact that a majority of residents in his home city of Burlington voted for such a position in a town meeting resolution in February 2005.

    The day after his election to the Senate, Sanders declared, "I don't think you can do a quote-unquote immediate withdrawal. I think the policy has got to be we will withdraw our troops as soon as possible, and by that, I mean that I believe we can have our troops out in the next year, and maybe a significant number of them before that. I don't think you can snap your fingers and just bring all the troops home tomorrow. I just don't think that's practical."

    Even more shocking, Sanders scuttled any action on a wave of Bush impeachment resolutions that swept Vermont towns in 2006. Like House Majority Leader-to-be Nancy Pelosi, who has promised not to impeach Bush, Sanders argued that impeachment was impractical, and that activists should put energy into electing Democrats.

    Outraged, Dan Dewalt, the organizer of the impeachment resolution campaign in Vermont, said, "We think we have quality politicians in Vermont. We're wrong. We have politics as usual in Vermont. Our so-called independent congressman, Bernie Sanders, can't get far enough away from impeachment."

    This summer, Sanders voted for House Resolution 921, which gave full support to Israel's murderous war on Lebanon. He also voted for HR 4681 that imposed sanctions on the Palestinian Authority with the aim of removing the democratically elected Hamas government.

    In response, longtime War Resisters League leader David McReynolds sent a public letter to Sanders, stating, "Because of your vote of support for the Israeli actions, I would hope any friends and contacts of mine would not send you funds, nor give you their votes."

    Indeed, Sanders has consistently defended Israel through it worst crimes against Palestinians and Arabs. Unsurprisingly, some Sanders staffers have also worked with the American Israeli Political Action Committee (AIPAC)--including David Sirota, now a Democratic Party strategist, and Sanders' former communications director Joel Barkin.

    Finally, in perhaps his worst betrayal yet, Sanders joined a host of liberal Democrats including Barbara Lee and John Conyers to vote for HR 282, the Iran Freedom Support Act--which bears a striking resemblance to the resolutions that set up the framework for the war on Iraq.

    The act stipulates that the U.S. should impose sanctions on Iran to prevent it from developing weapons of mass destruction and distributing them to aid international terrorism. It also calls for the U.S. to support democratic change in the country, thereby establishing all necessary pretexts for a war on Iran. Democrat Dennis Kucinich voted against the act and denounced it as a "stepping stone to war."



  8. #8
    Fuck this and fuck that
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    FORD's Avatar
    Member No
    32
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 AM
    Location
    Cascadia
    Posts
    58,679
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,391
    Thanked 6,285 Times in 4,714 Posts


    Rep Power
    143
    So you oppose Bernie Sanders because he's a "socialist", and then post articles from ACTUAL socialists to bash him??

    Does the irony escape you that he must not be that good of a socialist, or they wouldn't be complaining about him?

  9. #9
    Banned
    REPENT AND SINS NO MO!

    Member No
    14
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Last Online
    11-04-2021 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    China
    Posts
    44,120
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,838
    Thanked 3,233 Times in 2,449 Posts


    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    0
    He's not that good of anything is the overall point...

    Bernie Sanders as president would just be more of the same Obomba / Bush / Clinton / Bush bullshit...

  10. #10
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    03-27-2024 @ 02:53 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    32,703
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,423
    Thanked 3,991 Times in 3,230 Posts


    Blog Entries
    15
    Rep Power
    94
    I haven't really dug into the guy and frankly I live in a state that has so few electoral votes we really have no say in who the next president is going to be. I think the point made in here is do some research and see what they actually have done in office instead of buying into the rhetoric. What the country needs and what the people want is a leader that serves the people and not corporations. They want someone who can focus on actual problems instead of putting on a big bullshit show and then break most the promises they ever made. People are tired of this "Fuck You! I'm the President!" attitude.

  11. #11
    formerly F A T
    King Of Smut
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    twonabomber's Avatar
    Member No
    28
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 03:21 AM
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Age
    55
    Posts
    11,193
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    223
    Thanked 2,504 Times in 1,615 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    How old is that first article? Obama isn't going to be in any more Democratic presidential primaries.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  12. #12
    Fuck this and fuck that
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    FORD's Avatar
    Member No
    32
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 AM
    Location
    Cascadia
    Posts
    58,679
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,391
    Thanked 6,285 Times in 4,714 Posts


    Rep Power
    143
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    How old is that first article? Obama isn't going to be in any more Democratic presidential primaries.
    That's all part of the Alex Jones paranoid narrative. Obama right now is secretly plotting to overturn the 22nd Amendment and become Kenyan Muslim Socialist President ****** For Life.

  13. Thanked FORD for this KICKASS post:

    Kristy (07-17-2014)


  14. #13
    Kill A Commie For Mommy
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Kristy's Avatar
    Member No
    7609
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 09:15 PM
    Location
    Denver, Colo
    Posts
    16,290
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,861
    Thanked 2,750 Times in 2,061 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    64
    Oh dear! Well, I better buy a Chinese made water filter from him to alleviate this (made up) problem.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  15. #14
    Banned
    REPENT AND SINS NO MO!

    Member No
    14
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Last Online
    11-04-2021 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    China
    Posts
    44,120
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,838
    Thanked 3,233 Times in 2,449 Posts


    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    0
    How far do you two freaks think the lying will get you in this life ??

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Bernie Sanders for President 2016
    By FORD in forum The Front Line
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-03-2016, 06:24 PM
  2. Replies: 59
    Last Post: 07-09-2014, 01:47 AM
  3. Replies: 8
    Last Post: 05-13-2014, 01:44 PM
  4. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10-19-2013, 10:00 PM
  5. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-01-2013, 09:31 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •