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    Maybe it is contractual in the sense that because Dave and John are on different labels they would have to figure out what label they would release it under. I hope Dave didn't have to sign some kind of no compete type of contract in order to get back with VH. If that were the case it would make the brothers look silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonrisa salvaje View Post
    it would make the brothers look silly.
    Like there's no precedent for that...
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    It's just nuts... I mean the Eagles catalog hasn't been harmed and they let Joe Walsh release killer solo records with songs about gettin a fish bone stuck in your throat... Plus the Eagles are a bigger bunch of wussies than the Dutch Pricks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    It's just nuts... I mean the Eagles catalog hasn't been harmed and they let Joe Walsh release killer solo records with songs about gettin a fish bone stuck in your throat... Plus the Eagles are a bigger bunch of wussies than the Dutch Pricks...
    They probably justify that by the fact that Joe was an established solo artist (as well as known for his work in the James Gang) before he joined the Eagles.

    But then, the Eagles never really looked at solo projects as a threat to the band anyway. They were playing Joe's "solo" songs like "Life's Been Good" and "All Night Long" on Eagles tours in the 70s, and now they play Henley & Frey's solo material in their sets.

    On the other hand, I don't ever see Keith Richards playing any of his "Xpensive Winos" material on a Stones tour, and he damn sure isn't interested in backing up Mick while he sings something from "Primitive Cool". The biggest irony of all is that they let Billy Preston (not even an official band member) sing a couple of his hits on the 1975/76 tour....



    Eddie let Hagar sing some of his crap songs on the Van Hagar tours, but would he let Dave sing "Yankee Rose", "Going Crazy" or "Slam Dunk" (just went with the three most obvious songs there, because they sound like Van Halen songs). I imagine the tradeoff there would be Dave would have to sing a couple Van Hagar songs to "balance it out" and that's never going to happen. Not that Ed seems to have too much interest in that cheddar drenched material anyway. Arguably he wasn't interested in it in 2004 either, which is why he was in such a regrettable state of mind on that tour.
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    Dave releasing a solo project has no impact on VH's live shows. The whole thing is retarded. If John 5 says it's due to "contractual issues" with Dave/VH then I'm inclined to believe it. Again, it all comes down to ED wanting to be in control. I wonder just how many years he spent, drunk out of his mind, staggering around his back yard having arguments with Imaginary Dave. And now he can do it for real - tell Dave how it's gonna be and that's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    with Imaginary Dave.
    vandy, another good alias
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    It appeared the media muzzle they put on Dave lasted about 5 years... So I got to wonder how long the music release muzzle duration is..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
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    Think van halen are actually using that on the next cd
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Think van halen are actually using that on the next cd
    You're actually closer to the truth than you know. See, Ed has been working closely with the Olde English 800 company to develop a technology that will allow him to generate Dave's voice singing any lyrics Ed chooses. And when they go on tour, they'll just shave half of Wolfie's head and say he's Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Like there's no precedent for that...
    Exactly. I should have said "silly again" but i kind of thought since they had gotten back to together with Dave, done 2 tours and 1 record, and gotten older/wiser that they would be more secure with themselves at this point in their life versus 1996. That was almost twenty damn years ago. At what point will they put the petty stuff aside and get on with life? It gives me the feeling that while Dave is in Japan still loving life, Ed is hiding up on howdy doody mountain peeping out the blinds like a crackhead waiting for the police to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAiN View Post
    Today he's backing up the guy from creed...
    Who ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonrisa salvaje View Post
    Ed is hiding up on howdy doody mountain peeping out the blinds like a crackhead waiting for the police to show up.
    Yeah, the dog poop police...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Who ??
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Why the hell would Dave have contractual restrictions for releasing solo material outside of VH at this phase..?
    I've already answered this for you ZZ. Ed doesn't want history to repeat itself. That's my theory anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I've already answered this for you ZZ. Ed doesn't want history to repeat itself. That's my theory anyway.
    So is the no compete clause thing legit?

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    If Dave wants to stay in Rip Van Halen, it is...

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    A Dave/John 5 club tour with an all acoustic set sounds pretty good right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I've already answered this for you ZZ. Ed doesn't want history to repeat itself. That's my theory anyway.
    I figure that too, Von...

    The fool doesn't realize he's running out of future to horde...

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    You Cant Be In Two Bands,Dave.
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    Ed's New Pool Guys Said,There is Going Be a New Van Halen Album Feb 2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I figure that too, Von...

    The fool doesn't realize he's running out of future to horde...
    Well new dentures, new hair dye, new hip replacements, and a new wife with big tits made Ed feel like he's younger and has plenty of time to waste.
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    If Dave wants to be creative he needs to dump the Van Halens. The last album was pretty much old stuff from the vault. I never listen to it. I don't know if Dave needs the money or wants the money from another tour but frankly, the Van Halens are two old fucks past their prime. Wolfie is the wrong guy for the band. They don't have the fire or desire anymore but Dave still does. I would rather see Dave with John 5 live than with Eddie.

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    In the Guitar World interview with Wolf that came out around the time of ADKOT, I recall him expressing how disappointed he was with how long the recording process took. If he's on this latest recording, I'll bet it's his last. Just can't imagine what the hell takes so long.
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    Diamond Dave is #2 trending on Yahoo News about new debut album
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    In the Guitar World interview with Wolf that came out around the time of ADKOT, I recall him expressing how disappointed he was with how long the recording process took. If he's on this latest recording, I'll bet it's his last. Just can't imagine what the hell takes so long.
    Ted Templeman said the dynamic in Van Halen changed as soon as Ed built his studio. He said when you are renting studio time you have to get on with it. When you own the studio you can take your time and play with the mixes too much. He didn't say it but you could tell he was saying 5150 ruined Van Halen. That band died as soon as 5150 came into the picture. 5150 is police code for the criminally insane. Well it's fitting because as soon as we heard about 5150 Sammy Hagar showed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
    Diamond Dave is #2 trending on Yahoo News about new debut album
    Number one now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Number one now...

    WTF......Sure didn't see this coming... Hopefully this doesn't lead to the fucking cheesecake coming back with Eddie..sorry I am happy for Dave but a little paranoid over the future of Van Fucking Halen.
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    Sure hope this sees the light of day. I thought DLR Band was a great album and a taste of what a Van Halen album would have been like if they would have reunited at that point in time. John 5 smokes on guitar!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
    Diamond Dave is #2 trending on Yahoo News about new debut album
    Nice thought but when compared to where Yahoo ranks among Search Engines they represent 3rd with less than 10% of the market... behind Bing at 19% and Google at 67%. Number 2 in a 2nd tier farm team ain't quite braggin rights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Number 2 in a 2nd tier farm team ain't quite braggin rights...
    it can be for the farmers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    You Cant Be In Two Bands,Dave.
    That's probably what Ed's thinking right about now. Some bands can stick together after individual members do solo albums and side projects and some can't. Jagger did solo albums and some of the other Stones had side projects and they stuck together. Daltrey and Townsend did solo albums.
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    Townsend's solo stuff goes under the name the who

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Well, you can't really blame Ed. I mean, look what happened last time Dave did a solo project when he was in VH. It sold like hot cakes, he got all big headed, and quit the band to make a movie that never got made.
    Well, I see it a lot differently...my version:

    "look what happened last time Dave did a solo project when he was in VH. It sold like hot cakes, Eddie couldn't f'n stand that Dave got any success without him and pulled the control freak card (doubled-up since it was now in Ed's own studio). Probably acted toward Dave like he acted toward Mike Anthony the last little while before Mike was unceremoniously punted and Dave left to do whatever instead of living with Ed's infinite tantrum."

    Ed's ego makes Dave's ego look like wounded self-esteem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgdonkey View Post
    Well, I see it a lot differently...my version:

    "look what happened last time Dave did a solo project when he was in VH. It sold like hot cakes, Eddie couldn't f'n stand that Dave got any success without him and pulled the control freak card (doubled-up since it was now in Ed's own studio). Probably acted toward Dave like he acted toward Mike Anthony the last little while before Mike was unceremoniously punted and Dave left to do whatever instead of living with Ed's infinite tantrum."

    Ed's ego makes Dave's ego look like wounded self-esteem.
    I think that pretty much sums it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    If Dave wants to be creative he needs to dump the Van Halens. The last album was pretty much old stuff from the vault. I never listen to it. I don't know if Dave needs the money or wants the money from another tour but frankly, the Van Halens are two old fucks past their prime. Wolfie is the wrong guy for the band. They don't have the fire or desire anymore but Dave still does. I would rather see Dave with John 5 live than with Eddie.
    I don't think that I could agree with you any more on that topic - exactly how I feel.


    AAAAAND...if you think about it, Dave has always been the creative one. Ed was 'just' a virtuoso. He could have easily been one of the many who had 'moderate' careers but he ended up in the right vehicle with 'Van'.
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    You Nimrods™ always overlook the real architect behind all the madness... always Ed this... fuckin Dave that... You never notice the little quiet guy lurking and trolling in the shadows...


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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgdonkey View Post
    I don't think that I could agree with you any more on that topic - exactly how I feel.


    AAAAAND...if you think about it, Dave has always been the creative one. Ed was 'just' a virtuoso. He could have easily been one of the many who had 'moderate' careers but he ended up in the right vehicle with 'Van'.
    The Van Halens can't do shit without a lead singer who has some creative input. The Van Halens are specialists but they are lousy producers. Van Halen 3 is what you will get from Alex or Eddie with a puppet singer. Classic Van Halen was Dave and Ted Templeman at the helm with Eddie, Alex, and Mike in the engine room. Ed hated Ted and Dave having all the say but hey kid, now we know why they did. Ed and Al never would have gotten out of Pasadena if it weren't for Dave and his father supporting them. I don't think the Roth's ever got a thank you.

    The Van Halens are stuck on themselves. They are an important part granted but not the whole part and they still want to be everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You Nimrods™ always overlook the real architect behind all the madness... always Ed this... fuckin Dave that... You never notice the little quiet guy lurking and trolling in the shadows...

    That's a great photo. I've never seen that one before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You Nimrods™ always overlook the real architect behind all the madness... always Ed this... fuckin Dave that... You never notice the little quiet guy lurking and trolling in the shadows...

    That pic says more about Dave than it does mike , that pic with Dave would have him trying to sniff her truffle
    With mike he probably didn't even see her go by .

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    That pic says more about Dave than it does mike , that pic with Dave would have him trying to sniff her truffle
    With mike he probably didn't even see her go by .
    I don't know how some of you knotheads can live so vicariously through Dave... to the point where he's no where in a picture... probably not even in the building but the picture says more about Dave..?

    A bit much... maybe?

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