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    Guess What NuttyYahoo's Genocidal Assault on Gaza is REALLY About?

    IDF's Gaza assault is to control Palestinian gas, avert Israeli energy crisis
    Israel's defence minister has confirmed that military plans to 'uproot Hamas' are about dominating Gaza's gas reserves

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    Wednesday 9 July 2014 14.14 EDT
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    Yesterday, Israeli defence minister and former Israeli Defence Force (IDF) chief of staff Moshe Ya'alon announced that Operation Protective Edge marks the beginning of a protracted assault on Hamas. The operation "won't end in just a few days," he said, adding that "we are preparing to expand the operation by all means standing at our disposal so as to continue striking Hamas."

    This morning, he said:

    "We continue with strikes that draw a very heavy price from Hamas. We are destroying weapons, terror infrastructures, command and control systems, Hamas institutions, regime buildings, the houses of terrorists, and killing terrorists of various ranks of command… The campaign against Hamas will expand in the coming days, and the price the organization will pay will be very heavy."

    But in 2007, a year before Operation Cast Lead, Ya'alon's concerns focused on the 1.4 trillion cubic feet of natural gas discovered in 2000 off the Gaza coast, valued at $4 billion. Ya'alon dismissed the notion that "Gaza gas can be a key driver of an economically more viable Palestinian state" as "misguided." The problem, he said, is that:

    "Proceeds of a Palestinian gas sale to Israel would likely not trickle down to help an impoverished Palestinian public. Rather, based on Israel's past experience, the proceeds will likely serve to fund further terror attacks against Israel…

    A gas transaction with the Palestinian Authority [PA] will, by definition, involve Hamas. Hamas will either benefit from the royalties or it will sabotage the project and launch attacks against Fatah, the gas installations, Israel – or all three… It is clear that without an overall military operation to uproot Hamas control of Gaza, no drilling work can take place without the consent of the radical Islamic movement."

    Operation Cast Lead did not succeed in uprooting Hamas, but the conflict did take the lives of 1,387 Palestinians (773 of whom were civilians) and 9 Israelis (3 of whom were civilians).

    Since the discovery of oil and gas in the Occupied Territories, resource competition has increasingly been at the heart of the conflict, motivated largely by Israel's increasing domestic energy woes.

    Mark Turner, founder of the Research Journalism Initiative, reported that the siege of Gaza and ensuing military pressure was designed to "eliminate" Hamas as "a viable political entity in Gaza" to generate a "political climate" conducive to a gas deal. This involved rehabilitating the defeated Fatah as the dominant political player in the West Bank, and "leveraging political tensions between the two parties, arming forces loyal to Abbas and the selective resumption of financial aid."

    Ya'alon's comments in 2007 illustrate that the Israeli cabinet is not just concerned about Hamas – but concerned that if Palestinians develop their own gas resources, the resulting economic transformation could in turn fundamentally increase Palestinian clout.

    Meanwhile, Israel has made successive major discoveries in recent years - such as the Leviathan field estimated to hold 18 trillion cubic feet of natural gas – which could transform the country from energy importer into aspiring energy exporter with ambitions to supply Europe, Jordan and Egypt. A potential obstacle is that much of the 122 trillion cubic feet of gas and 1.6 billion barrels of oil in the Levant Basin Province lies in territorial waters where borders are hotly disputed between Israel, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza and Cyprus.

    Amidst this regional jockeying for gas, though, Israel faces its own little-understood energy challenges. It could, for instance, take until 2020 for much of these domestic resources to be properly mobilised.

    But this is the tip of the iceberg. A 2012 letter by two Israeli government chief scientists – which the Israeli government chose not to disclose – warned the government that Israel still had insufficient gas resources to sustain exports despite all the stupendous discoveries. The letter, according to Ha'aretz, stated that Israel's domestic resources were 50% less than needed to support meaningful exports, and could be depleted in decades:

    "We believe Israel should increase its [domestic] use of natural gas by 2020 and should not export gas. The Natural Gas Authority's estimates are lacking. There's a gap of 100 to 150 billion cubic meters between the demand projections that were presented to the committee and the most recent projections. The gas reserves are likely to last even less than 40 years!"

    As Dr Gary Luft - an advisor to the US Energy Security Council - wrote in the Journal of Energy Security, "with the depletion of Israel's domestic gas supplies accelerating, and without an imminent rise in Egyptian gas imports, Israel could face a power crisis in the next few years… If Israel is to continue to pursue its natural gas plans it must diversify its supply sources."

    Israel's new domestic discoveries do not, as yet, offer an immediate solution as electricity prices reach record levels, heightening the imperative to diversify supply. This appears to be behind Prime Minister Netanyahu's announcement in February 2011 that it was now time to seal the Gaza gas deal. But even after a new round of negotiations was kick-started between the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority and Israel in September 2012, Hamas was excluded from these talks, and thus rejected the legitimacy of any deal.

    Earlier this year, Hamas condemned a PA deal to purchase $1.2 billion worth of gas from Israel Leviathan field over a 20 year period once the field starts producing. Simultaneously, the PA has held several meetings with the British Gas Group to develop the Gaza gas field, albeit with a view to exclude Hamas – and thus Gazans – from access to the proceeds. That plan had been the brainchild of Quartet Middle East envoy Tony Blair.

    But the PA was also courting Russia's Gazprom to develop the Gaza marine gas field, and talks have been going on between Russia, Israel and Cyprus, though so far it is unclear what the outcome of these have been. Also missing was any clarification on how the PA would exert control over Gaza, which is governed by Hamas.

    According to Anais Antreasyan in the University of California's Journal of Palestine Studies, the most respected English language journal devoted to the Arab-Israeli conflict, Israel's stranglehold over Gaza has been designed to make "Palestinian access to the Marine-1 and Marine-2 gas wells impossible." Israel's long-term goal "besides preventing the Palestinians from exploiting their own resources, is to integrate the gas fields off Gaza into the adjacent Israeli offshore installations." This is part of a wider strategy of:

    "…. separating the Palestinians from their land and natural resources in order to exploit them, and, as a consequence, blocking Palestinian economic development. Despite all formal agreements to the contrary, Israel continues to manage all the natural resources nominally under the jurisdiction of the PA, from land and water to maritime and hydrocarbon resources."

    For the Israeli government, Hamas continues to be the main obstacle to the finalisation of the gas deal. In the incumbent defence minister's words: "Israel's experience during the Oslo years indicates Palestinian gas profits would likely end up funding terrorism against Israel. The threat is not limited to Hamas… It is impossible to prevent at least some of the gas proceeds from reaching Palestinian terror groups."

    The only option, therefore, is yet another "military operation to uproot Hamas."

    Unfortunately, for the IDF uprooting Hamas means destroying the group's perceived civilian support base – which is why Palestinian civilian casualties massively outweigh that of Israelis. Both are obviously reprehensible, but Israel's capacity to inflict destruction is simply far greater.

    In the wake of Operation Cast Lead, the Jerusalem-based Public Committee Against Torture in Israel (Pcati) found that the IDF had adopted a more aggressive combat doctrine based on two principles – "zero casualties" for IDF soldiers at the cost of deploying increasingly indiscriminate firepower in densely populated areas, and the "dahiya doctrine" promoting targeting of civilian infrastructure to create widespread suffering amongst the population with a view to foment opposition to Israel's opponents.

    This was confirmed in practice by the UN fact-finding mission in Gaza which concluded that the IDF had pursued a "deliberate policy of disproportionate force," aimed at the "supporting infrastructure" of the enemy - "this appears to have meant the civilian population," said the UN report.

    The Israel-Palestine conflict is clearly not all about resources. But in an age of expensive energy, competition to dominate regional fossil fuels are increasingly influencing the critical decisions that can inflame war.

    Dr. Nafeez Ahmed is an international security journalist and academic. He is the author of A User's Guide to the Crisis of Civilization: And How to Save It, and the forthcoming science fiction thriller, ZERO POINT. ZERO POINT is set in a near future following a Fourth Iraq War. Follow Ahmed on Facebook and Twitter.
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    It's about Zionist one world government...

    The new world order...

    That's what all of these destabilizing conflicts are about...
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    "Mommy, why was my brother blown to pieces?"

    "Well you see sweetheart, our country was gaining strength in import/exp... look out, another rocket is heading our way"

    What an enormous pile of shit all war is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    It's about Zionist one world government...

    The new world order...

    That's what all of these destabilizing conflicts are about...
    The eventual one world government that will emerge will not be Zionists. It will be the United World Government of my son, the Antichrist.
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    I actually sent letters to my representatives in Washington and told them to cut the funding to Israel. More people need to do this. We have given them enough. I would rather have the money go to rebuilding our infrastructure here.
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    I'm to the point of just wanting to pick up all the waste pig products at slaughter houses. Let them get good and ripe and fly over the Israeli government headquarters and dump the load on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    The eventual one world government that will emerge will not be Zionists. It will be the United World Government of my son, the Antichrist.


    Former employee of daddy Bush spills beans.
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    I've read many in Europe speculate that it's little more than a cynical "lawn-mowing" exercise where Israel goes in and beats the fuck out of Hamas (killing lots of civilians, including hospital ridden children in the process). Pulls out, then four years later rinse and repeat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I've read many in Europe speculate that it's little more than a cynical "lawn-mowing" exercise where Israel goes in and beats the fuck out of Hamas (killing lots of civilians, including hospital ridden children in the process). Pulls out, then four years later rinse and repeat...
    Lawn mowing? Try genocide. They do it because we not only let them get away with it, we give them money to do it.

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    I am still scratching my head as to how the people of Palestine elected Hamas to run their government. That's not unlike the Bloods winning the presidency after running as an Independent party, no? I mean, who goes to a voting booth and consciously flips the lever of a known terrorist ring? Can anyone explain to me just how that happened? Thanks.
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    The same thing happened in Northern Ireland eventually people get so dispirited and pissed off they think well fuck you we'll vote for the extremists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Lawn mowing? Try genocide. They do it because we not only let them get away with it, we give them money to do it.
    I think the "genocide" thing is a tad overused. It's collective punishment, indiscriminate mass killings, and infrastructure reduction causing mass misery. But Hamas are also a bunch of cunts and they would do worse if they had the same firepower as Israel had. Fuck them both, they deserve each other...

    They funny thing is NyQuil, you seem to hate the Jews a bit and have no sympathy for Israel beating up on the Palestinian underdogs, yet you blow Putin daily on this forum and enable his fascist agenda and contribution to the misery in Eastern Ukraine and his delusion and complete bullshit propaganda when he murdered 250,000 Chechens, kills his political enemies (including human rights journalists) and simply jails potential political rivals on (relatively) trumped up charges. Funny, isn't it?

    BTW, he may well be the worlds richest leader fed on oil corruption and pilfered away in a network of secret accounts making him little more than a tinpot dictator at this point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    That's not unlike the Bloods winning the presidency after running as an Independent party, no?
    Stay tuned - it probably won't be long before this happens...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Stay tuned - it probably won't be long before this happens...
    oooooh, new platform for admin voting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The same thing happened in Northern Ireland eventually people get so dispirited and pissed off they think well fuck you we'll vote for the extremists.
    You could say the same thing about the US congressional elections of 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I think the "genocide" thing is a tad overused. It's collective punishment, indiscriminate mass killings, and infrastructure reduction causing mass misery.
    That is the DEFINITION of genocide, shithead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Lawn mowing? Try genocide. They do it because we not only let them get away with it, we give them money to do it.

    And the UN provides schools for Hamas to hide missles in...


    Canada lost a peacekeeper years ago...Hamas would fire mortars from the edge of an UN observation post.
    The soldier that lost his life had blogged about it...and their orders not to intervene.

    Israel shelled it and called it a misread or old map.

    Regardless....both sides are nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WACF View Post
    And the UN provides schools for Hamas to hide missles in...


    Canada lost a peacekeeper years ago...Hamas would fire mortars from the edge of an UN observation post.
    The soldier that lost his life had blogged about it...and their orders not to intervene.

    Israel shelled it and called it a misread or old map.

    Regardless....both sides are nuts.

    Both sides are intent to flaunt humanity and destroy the other , only difference is one is heavily financed with high tech munitions and is supported by the biggest military in the world .

    Both are wrong but there is no equality in the amount of damage one is doing to the other .
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    Quote Originally Posted by WACF View Post
    And the UN provides schools for Hamas to hide missles in...


    Canada lost a peacekeeper years ago...Hamas would fire mortars from the edge of an UN observation post.
    The soldier that lost his life had blogged about it...and their orders not to intervene.

    Israel shelled it and called it a misread or old map.

    Regardless....both sides are nuts.
    I almost got into a fight in Israel when I said both sides are exactly the same. Other than the religion they are. The only problem the fight isn't an equal match. The world community should just make sure they are equally matched and let them go for it and the dirt belongs to the victor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I think the "genocide" thing is a tad overused. It's collective punishment, indiscriminate mass killings, and infrastructure reduction causing mass misery. But Hamas are also a bunch of cunts and they would do worse if they had the same firepower as Israel had. Fuck them both, they deserve each other...

    They funny thing is NyQuil, you seem to hate the Jews a bit and have no sympathy for Israel beating up on the Palestinian underdogs, yet you blow Putin daily on this forum and enable his fascist agenda and contribution to the misery in Eastern Ukraine and his delusion and complete bullshit propaganda when he murdered 250,000 Chechens, kills his political enemies (including human rights journalists) and simply jails potential political rivals on (relatively) trumped up charges. Funny, isn't it?

    BTW, he may well be the worlds richest leader fed on oil corruption and pilfered away in a network of secret accounts making him little more than a tinpot dictator at this point...
    Dude. The Ukraine was taken over by a bunch of thugs and gangsters. The US, Israel, and Europe are backing them. If Russia's central bank was part of the BIS system they wouldn't care what Putin did. By the way, it's looking more like the Air Malaysia flight was shot down by a Ukrainian military plane than a BUK missle.

    It's pretty obvious dude. The banking elite in the west want a war. They need one. They need one badly. Putin stole Russia from them and they are pissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    It will be the United World Government of my son, the Antichrist.
    That's Zionism, dummy...

    Just as the the FEMA camps aren't officially called FEMA camps and Obamacare isn't officially called Obamacare...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    That's Zionism, dummy...

    Just as the the FEMA camps aren't officially called FEMA camps and Obamacare isn't officially called Obamacare...
    How can it be "Zionism" if my son isn't Jewish?

    At least I don't think he is. He might have converted, just to rebel against me. I suppose I should be proud of him, if that's the case, because he couldn't be the Devil's son if he wasn't rebellious, right? Anyway, Zionism refers to a specific movement, and the mutations of it, like the Likud Zionfascism, but it's still centered around Israel. The eventual world government of my son, the Antichrist, won't be based on any Old Testament religion.

    The FEMA camps don't exist, so they might as well be called "Unicorns Farting Glitter" camps, or "Skyscrapers That Collapse From Office Fires" camps. And Obamacare may not be the "official" name of your country's mandatory corporate insurance plan, but it has been embraced by the Demoncrats and even the President himself, so it might as well be the official name.

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    Shaddup, idiot...

    You know nothing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Shaddup, idiot...

    You know nothing...
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    Z-Big's Drunken Daughter Has a Freudian Slip.....



    Is Mika trying to tell us who is really controlling corporate media coverage of NuttyYahoo's genocide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    That is the DEFINITION of genocide, shithead.
    No, dummy. It isn't. Wiki the definition if you need too, but that's not even close. It's not even "democide"...

    It's just engaging in unhelpful histrionics...Oh! That's it! You're one of those

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Dude. The Ukraine was taken over by a bunch of thugs and gangsters.
    Democratically elected Chocolate thugs! Yo!

    The previous cunt ordered his paramilitaries to open fire on demonstrators killing over 100 of them, the pro-Russian Putin stooge. The one that had like 15% approval rating because he was such a corrupt asshole even the more pro-Russian Ukrainians couldn't stand...


    The US, Israel, and Europe are backing them. If Russia's central bank was part of the BIS system they wouldn't care what Putin did. By the way, it's looking more like the Air Malaysia flight was shot down by a Ukrainian military plane than a BUK missle.
    They're "backing" technocrats that want to modernize a corrupt shithole system that Russia considered its little kid brother it could give a weggie too every day! And they are no where near backing them to the extent the Russian gov't is backing a psychotic minority in the Eastern provences
    Shot down by what? A Su-25 Frogfoot? Really? That's like an A-10 shooting down a high flying airliner, complete bullshit! And a pitiful retort by the Russian gov't and their fantasy controlled media. The Ukrainians have provided footage and the U.S. has provided intercepts. No one with an IQ above 50 not living in Russia believes any of that...

    It's pretty obvious dude. The banking elite in the west want a war. They need one. They need one badly. Putin stole Russia from them and they are pissed.
    Oh crickey fuck. The "banking elite" (read Jewish conspiracy nonsense) want another war. Yeah, banks do so well in them. Oh, BTW, Russia has a massively corrupt "banking elite". They get a pass now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    No, dummy. It isn't. Wiki the definition if you need too, but that's not even close. It's not even "democide"...

    It's just engaging in unhelpful histrionics...Oh! That's it! You're one of those
    Yeah, asshole, it is. In the meantime, see if your therapist can adjust your medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Yeah, asshole, it is. In the meantime, see if your therapist can adjust your medication.
    My post was engineered to get the predictable reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Yeah, asshole, it is. In the meantime, see if your therapist can adjust your medication.
    No, actually, druggie shithead, it isn't. But feel free to provide evidence if you want. I think Israel is shitty and possibly committing war crimes, but in no way is it quite "genocide". Feel free to provide the definition and specific examples, pot head.

    My "medication?" 'kay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    No, actually, druggie shithead, it isn't. But feel free to provide evidence if you want. I think Israel is shitty and possibly committing war crimes, but in no way is it quite "genocide". Feel free to provide the definition and specific examples, pot head.

    My "medication?" 'kay...
    Yes, cocksucker, it is. "collective punishment, indiscriminate mass killings, and infrastructure reduction" Now politely fuck off and go fuck yourself with your own Wiki words. Moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Yes, cocksucker, it is. "collective punishment, indiscriminate mass killings, and infrastructure reduction" Now politely fuck off and go fuck yourself with your own Wiki words. Moron.
    No, um, actually it isn't, druggie pretentious hipster cunt. Fuck off and try harder...

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    I don't understand you, Nick. It's like you try your damnest to be a wet liberal but keep on managing to fuck it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    I don't understand you, Nick. It's like you try your damnest to be a wet liberal but keep on managing to fuck it up.
    I dunno what you mean. But I suspect you think I'm defending Israeli policy under their cunt leader Netanyahu. I'm not in anyway. But engaging in hyperbolic arguments doesn't actually help ones position.

    The IDF is not putting Palestinians in camps to gas or starve them to death, they're not committing genocide. They are indiscriminately killing children though by indiscriminately using heavy ordinance in heavily populated areas though, but that's not genocide. It is a war crime I think...

    I mean, a faction of Hamas that are little more than gangster fucks murders six Israeli teens and Israel now has the right to kill infants in a hospital? Fuck them all! A pox on both their houses!!!
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    Joe "dead intern" Scarborough manages to find some working brain cells.....



    Joe Scarborough: Israel's actions 'asinine'
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    Joe Scarborough on Thursday had harsh words for Israel’s actions in Gaza, saying the country was engaging in “indiscriminate” killing.

    “This is asinine,” said the MSNBC host and former Republican congressman. “This continued killing of women and children in a way that appears to be indiscriminate is asinine.”


    Scarborough described himself as having a record as one of Israel’s biggest supporters, saying, “I’ve always been a 100 percent supporter of Israel. The joke in Congress was anytime I wanted a key to the city of Tel Aviv, I could, you know, get a gold-plated one.”

    But on Thursday he warned that the mounting civilian death toll was not just tragic for the Palestinians, but harmful both to Israel and the U.S.


    “The United States of America — we cannot be associated with this if this continues. This is so bad, not only for the Israeli people, but for us,” Scarborough said.

    More than 1,300 Palestinians, most of whom are reported to be civilians, have died since the conflict began earlier this month, according to The Associated Press. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials have accused Hamas of deliberately stockpiling weapons in civilian areas to increase the death toll.

    Scarborough, a contributor at POLITICO, said the backlash against Israel from this conflict will create a much more radical organization than Hamas.



    “[A]s much as we all hate Hamas, what is going to replace Hamas is going to be much worse,” he said. “It is going to be a radical Islamist group instead of just power-hungry, corrupt people that despise Israel. This is such a nightmare that is unfolding.”

    He added that Israel was squandering support from other Arab states. The New York Times reported Thursday that several states, including Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, are showing solidarity with Israel in the conflict due to their opposition to Hamas.

    In an interview with POLITICO later Thursday, Scarborough said he was a bit surprised to receive considerable response to his comments and clarified that he stands by Israel.

    “I remain as unambiguously strong a supporter of Israel as I always have been,” he said.

    “I didn’t think that this would spur discussion, but it certainly has,” Scarborough added, noting that most of the feedback he has received has been “positive and understanding.”

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    Yes, it IS genocide as defined by Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide:



    " ...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group".
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    Genocide is a slow, systematic destruction of not only a race by way of murder but their entire culture as well. How can anyone be so blind as to not see this is exactly what Israel is doing? No doubt Netanyahu is a war criminal but he'll never see time as long as America continues to feed his bloodlust. He despises everything American except of course [our] latest technological weaponry in order to carry out his "purification" of Israel. Genocide is not a phenomenon that happens overnight, it takes years if not decades to implement so Netanyahu can look at the chart and see where there is progress and what is left to be done. Netanyahu is so far fucking removed from reality that he loves it every time Hamas fires a rocket into the heartland - particularity at children - allowing for him to speed the process up by a few years. Israel will not stop until they have finally attained this goal.

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    The attempted Israeli genocide, in its on-going mid-phase, is not unlike the now-accomplished Canadian genocide against First Peoples. First there were population displacements, then exterminations, then land treaties, then reservations, then forced cultural assimilation for any survivors, then cultural normalization of the crimes, and never any possibility of return or reparations.

    A main difference is that Canada’s genocide is virtually complete, whereas Israel’s attempted genocide is in full swing and unfolding militarily before the world, in a time of instant and distributed electronic publishing, and in a time when other genocides have been named, exposed, condemned, and studied and understood. [1]

    Source: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07...adas-genocide/

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    And it's the trail of bullshit you have to follow, Nick. Despite what corporate run media says Hamas are NOT terrorists. They are fighting for their ethic and cultural survival for if this generation does not do it there will not another left - something upon which Netanyahu is literally banking on. Do you doubt for one seccy that if Geronimo had a few RPG's and IED's at his disposal he would not hesitate to use them?

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