Zimmerklansman threatens ex-wife and her family.... with a gun, naturally.

[FORD]

George Zimmerman questioned after alleged gun threat
Shellie Zimmerman recently filed for divorce
Published On: Sep 09 2013 02:36:14 PM EDT Updated On: Sep 09 2013 03:21:40 PM EDT

LAKE MARY, Fla. -

George Zimmerman is being questioned in Central Florida after his estranged wife called police saying he threatened her and her father with a gun.



Lake Mary police say they were called Monday afternoon to Shellie Zimmerman's parents' house on Sprucewood Road. Shellie Zimmerman's parents, David and Machelle Dean, live at the home.

Lake Mary police spokesman Zach Hudson said police are "trying to determine what exactly happened."

According to Chief Steve Bracknell, Shellie Zimmerman called 911 claiming George Zimmerman had a gun and was making threats. The victims are not speaking to police and were waiting for their attorney to arrive, Bracknell said.

As of 3:20 p.m., no arrests have been made.

A spokesman for former Local 6 legal analyst Mark O'Mara, who represented George Zimmerman in his murder trial, said he had no comment at this time.

The incident comes days after Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce and discussed her relationship with George Zimmerman on a TV interview.

Since being acquitted in the shooting death of 17-year-old Martin, George Zimmerman has been pulled over twice for speeding.

[Hardrock69]

For all we know he coulda pulled out a gun due to someone stalking him or whatever.

He is going to have the po-lice watching him like a hawk for a looong time.....

He should be minding his p's and q's.

Seems his world is continuing it's unravelment.

Anyone wanna start a pool? How long is he gonna last before he goes nuts, winds up either a) in jail, or b) *insert worse alternative here".

I mean, getting a pass in the judicial system can be just as bad as being in the p-farm, except there is nothing between you and those who are after you.

The Vegas bookies probably have a massive racket going on right now about what is going to happen to him.

[FORD]

Well, apparently his daddy the judge paid somebody off yet again, because apparently no charges were filed.

So even though this asshole has several documented violent gun crimes in his history (not the least of which is murder) he still has his fucking guns, because his daddy always bought him out of any convictions.

That's just wrong. Charges or no charges, the cops should have confiscated his guns, and then conveniently "lost" them. This sick piece of shit has repeatedly proven that he is completely incapable of being a rational, sane human being who can responsibly own a firearm.

[Igosplut]

Well, apparently his daddy the judge paid somebody off yet again, because apparently no charges were filed.

So even though this asshole has several documented violent gun crimes in his history (not the least of which is murder) he still has his fucking guns, because his daddy always bought him out of any convictions.

That's just wrong. Charges or no charges, the cops should have confiscated his guns, and then conveniently "lost" them. This sick piece of shit has repeatedly proven that he is completely incapable of being a rational, sane human being who can responsibly own a firearm.

You know none of this first hand so stop speculating. I know you have a hard on for this guy, but you have no more "Inside" info than what you read about him. And that's not enough to draw a good conclusion from any of this........

[FORD]

Can you at least admit that he's a mentally unstable assclown that likes to wave his gun around a lot more than any sane person should?

[Igosplut]

Can you at least admit that he's a mentally unstable assclown that likes to wave his gun around a lot more than any sane person should?

Would or could you and I really know this for a fact? We draw from whats reported. Is that the truth? In this day and age, media is highly suspect on all sides. If his wife and he hit the shit, then it;s very easy to strike like this wouldn't you agree (just one possible outcome). I don't definitively know if any of this is true as you don't. So I don't take that stance.

[Igosplut]

Well, apparently his daddy the judge paid somebody off yet again, because apparently no charges were filed.

Charges have nothing to do with judges, and everything to do with the cops. They press the charges and if they are felonys then they have a grand jury review to indict.

So even though this asshole has several documented violent gun crimes in his history (not the least of which is murder) he still has his fucking guns, because his daddy always bought him out of any convictions.

Whatever charges were brought against him, they were disposed of. Any guilty verdicts would have revoked his right to carry in any state.

That's just wrong. Charges or no charges, the cops should have confiscated his guns, and then conveniently "lost" them. This sick piece of shit has repeatedly proven that he is completely incapable of being a rational, sane human being who can responsibly own a firearm.

These are opinions and not based in law. If the law deemed him unqualified then they would have pulled the carry permit.

[Nickdfresh]

You know none of this first hand so stop speculating. I know you have a hard on for this guy, but you have no more "Inside" info than what you read about him. And that's not enough to draw a good conclusion from any of this........

C'mon dude, he's an asshole that can't stay out of trouble. It's always something with him, he's had a series of run ins with the cops since all this happened and according to most he's never been a model citizen...

[Kristy]

It's only a matter of time before he's in jail being repeatedly buttfucked by gang members.

[baru911]

Gee, since no one else wants to update this...It appears that his wife, you know the woman who plead guilty to perjury, might have told some whoppers on the 911 call, then the press that wants to paint George as the racist killer ran with a story without investigating it fully again. If you read the full reporting on the issue the wife appeared at the home unexpected, lied on the 911 call, and then provided a written statement that was different than her verbal reports to authorities.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...artin/2788443/

The estranged wife of George Zimmerman opted not to press charges against her husband Monday after police in Florida responded to her sobbing 911 call reporting he had punched her father and was threatening them with a gun.

"I'm really scared,'' Shellie Zimmerman can be heard telling Lake Mary, Fla., police in an audio recording of a 911 call placed around 2 p.m. Monday to authorities in the suburb northeast of Orlando.

Zimmerman was acquitted in July in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in a case that captured the nation's attention and put a spotlight on Florida's self-defense gun laws.

Police allowed Zimmerman to go free Monday afternoon after questioning him outside the home where Shellie Zimmerman placed the 911 call. Police Chief Steve Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman and her father decided not to press charges after consulting with an attorney.

Police deputy chief Colin Morgan said earlier that police held George Zimmerman in "investigative detention'' while they investigated the dispute.

A police spokesman said Zimmerman and his wife, who filed for divorce last week, were blaming each other for starting the fight at her father's home.

In an audio recording of Shellie Zimmerman's 911 call, she can be heard saying Zimmerman smashed an iPad she was holding and cut it with a pocket knife, struck her father in the nose and threatened both while putting a hand on a gun.

Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved.

"Domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said.

The dispute "was between him and his wife and her father,'' Morgan said. "There were some allegations that there had been an assault, but we could not confirm any of it.''

Orlando TV station WKMG reported that Shellie Zimmerman's parents, David and Machelle Dean, live at the home.

WKMG's SKY 6 helicopter showed at least a half-dozen police squad cars outside the house.

In the divorce petition, Shellie Zimmerman says she and her husband separated a month after Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, was acquitted of any crime for fatally shooting Martin, a black teenager, last July. The verdict sparked protests across the nation.

Zimmerman has been pulled over at least twice for speeding since his acquittal.

Second Article
Lake Mary Police are now calling into question several statements Shellie Zimmerman made to 911

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/new...#ixzz2eUkm7EU2

LAKE MARY, Fla - Lake Mary Police are now questioning the validity of several statements Shellie Zimmerman made when she told 911 dispatchers her estranged husband, George Zimmerman, threatened her and her father at gunpoint Monday afternoon.

"We did not find a gun, did not locate a weapon," said Zach Hudson, public information officer with the Lake Mary Police Department. "Nobody ever saw a gun. A gun is not part of this story."

Still, a gun was at the crux of the account Shellie Zimmerman provided to 911 dispatchers when calling for help.

"He continually has his hand on his gun and he keeps saying, 'Step closer.' He is just threatening all of us," Shellie can be heard telling dispatchers.

Hudson told ABC Action News Shellie provided a written statement Monday night saying she never saw a gun and only assumed her estranged husband was carrying a weapon because he touched his stomach.

Shellie called police to her father's home on Sprucewood Road around 2 p.m. She claimed George punched her father in the face and threatened both of them with a gun.

"He accosted my father and then took my IPad and then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife. I don't know what he is capable of. I am really really scared," Shellie told dispatchers.

According to authorities, Shellie's father did not have any visible injuries.

In the 911 call, Shellie asked the dispatcher to send paramedics because her father's nose looked like it was broken.

There are also other inconsistencies police pointed to on the 911.

Shellie told dispatchers that officers arrived and had their guns drawn. She said George was sitting in his car. Fearing George would start shooting, she told the dispatcher her and her father were going inside.

According to police, George was not in his car when they arrived but was standing in the yard. They say he was also very cooperative and allowed police to search his person.

After being questioned by police, Shellie left the home with her attorney.

Police explained that George has been living in his father-in-law's home. It was just last week that Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said Monday's incident stemmed from the couple dividing up property.

"Silly stuff like pots and pans and dishes gets so emotionalized that it overflows and that is what really happened here," said O'Mara.

The home was previously used as a meeting place to divvy up possessions. However, O'Mara said Shellie turned up at the home Monday afternoon unannounced.

"This is all miscommunication," O'Mara said.

O'Mara explained that this is just more fallout from Zimmerman's acquittal in the murder of Trayvon Martin, 17.

That occurred nearly two months ago, and since that time, Zimmerman has been in the media spotlight for various reasons including speeding and helping people during a traffic crash.

In this case, both Zimmerman and his father-in-law have declined to file charges.

However, multiple media outlets are incorrectly reporting that Zimmerman and his wife has also declined to press charges. According to police, because this is a domestic violence case, it is up to the state attorney's office to decide whether charges are warranted. They must first find out who was the primary aggressor, if there was one at all.

And while no charges have been filed, police say that could change at any minute.

[Seshmeister]

The question seems to come down to is he a murdering cunt or just a cunt who kills people legally within the terms of a badly enacted law.

Either way he is a top tier absolute first class with honors cunt.

This latest incident seems to follow the same path.

[Igosplut]

Huh....So MAYBE it wasn't as the headlines screamed out????

Imagine that.......

[baru911]

The question seems to come down to is he a murdering cunt or just a cunt who kills people legally within the terms of a badly enacted law.

Either way he is a top tier absolute first class with honors cunt.

This latest incident seems to follow the same path.

No, the question is why was a person charged and the placed in a show trail for defending himself from another person who was beating his head into the pavement? Umm, maybe to keep people divided so others can keep themselves in power.

[FORD]

No, the question is why was a person charged and the placed in a show trail for defending himself from another person who was beating his head into the pavement? Umm, maybe to keep people divided so others can keep themselves in power.

YOU are defending Zimmerman?

Seriously???

Aren't you the guy who took offense at me spelling BlacKKKwater with three K's, because of what racist sheet wearing bastards did to your own family.

Zimmerman wasn't "defending himself" from a kid armed with Skittles then, and he wasn't defending himself from his ex-wife and his ex father in law yesterday. He's the one who creates these situations. And anybody else would be dead or in prison for life by now after all he's done, but daddy the judge always manages to grease the right palms to get him off the hook.

[Dr. Love]

You mean to tell me that an angry ex-wife that would make spurious claims to try to hurt her ex-husband? Why I never...

The dude is a tool, there's not much denying it ... but good lord. People seriously need to question things and not just accept any claim that's dangled tantalizingly in front of them. News articles are no longer there to inform, they are there to drive traffic and get money. People will sensationalize. Don't be a sucker!

[Seshmeister]

The dude is a tool, there's not much denying it ...

That was my point.

In the big thread about the original case I ended up on his side because legally he was in the clear but he's such a dickwad it doesn't feel nice being on that side of the argument.

It's like the thing of it being very easy to agree with free speech until its being used to say things you hate.

[Kristy]

You mean to tell me that an angry ex-wife that would make spurious claims to try to hurt her ex-husband? Why I never...

Huh? Libertardians make spurious claims everyday and you don't see me bitching, do ya?

[Seshmeister]

It would be unimaginable...

[Nickdfresh]

No, the question is why was a person charged and the placed in a show trail for defending himself from another person who was beating his head into the pavement? Umm, maybe to keep people divided so others can keep themselves in power.

Or maybe he's perennial fuckup that can't keep out of trouble and does some very cunty things and has a history of confrontations and possibly even sexual abuse...

[Heater]

Once again, our hard-hitting journalistic dynamo, FORD-more accurately-FRauD, has thoroughly examined the facts, checking the ticker crawl on several cable news sources before posting it verbatim here. What really binds the cheese is the inside contacts within the legal community he clearly has, the best one apparently being Nancy Grace. Next case.

[FORD]

Bleater, you were more entertaining when you were just a dumb sheep making jokes about Dave's hair.

Now go back outside and play with your swing........

[Kristy]

Oh look! BigBadTurd is back getting all Kirsten Dunst on us.

[FORD]

Well, apparently F A T Georgie's latest stunt was at least bad enough to embarass his lawyer Mark O'Mara into dropping his ass, even if it didn't get him thrown in prison where he belongs.

A sleazeball lawyer who's actually embarrassed by his client. Who would have thought it possible?

[envy_me]

Anybody who has seen Wife Swap knows that the wife and the husband always share opinions on big things like guns and such. His wife is probably just like he is and I don't feel sorry for her. After all at one point in time she chose to marry this guy.

[FORD]

[baru911]

YOU are defending Zimmerman?

Seriously???

Aren't you the guy who took offense at me spelling BlacKKKwater with three K's, because of what racist sheet wearing bastards did to your own family.

Zimmerman wasn't "defending himself" from a kid armed with Skittles then, and he wasn't defending himself from his ex-wife and his ex father in law yesterday. He's the one who creates these situations. And anybody else would be dead or in prison for life by now after all he's done, but daddy the judge always manages to grease the right palms to get him off the hook.

Hey Rocky Road...Yes, I am the individual that called you out on your racist BS and used an example of why I have an issue with the Klan. So now a lilly white guy like yourself gets to tell me when someone is a racist?

You wanna go for it. Then lets go for it.

Let me jump to the back of the bus where I guess you'd like me to sit so I can listen to your unintelligible rants of pure shit. Please Rocky Road instruct me on what I'm supposed to view as racism. Please shout your shitty ideas so that I be happy that a white guy like you can just go out and inform all us minorities about your views about what is racism and how it should be labeled in my eyes. I'm sure you'd like me to sit back and eat the pure crap that people like you dish out. I guess I should be thanking you for teaching me about something that I get to deal with almost daily. I'm positive that you would really like that.

Sorry Rocky Road, I ain't backin down from this one. Maybe you can share with all of us how EVERDAY you were discriminated against while you were growing up so I can understand your view-point. Guess what Rocky Road - you can't - the evil crap of racism never has touched you. Of course, you'll attempt to justify your own RACIST post but brother your truth stripes came out and both of us know it.

Fact: Zimmerman was investigated by the FBI at the bequest of the Justice Department. They couldn't find anything about the situation or his life that stacked up to him being a racist.

[FORD]

Hey Rocky Road...Yes, I am the individual that called you out on your racist BS and used an example of why I have an issue with the Klan. So now a lilly white guy like yourself gets to tell me when someone is a racist?

You wanna go for it. Then lets go for it.

Well, when Zimmerman profiles a kid based on the color of his skin, calls him a "fucking coon" and then MURDERS him, it doesn't really leave a lot of room for speculation, does it?

Let me jump to the back of the bus where I guess you'd like me to sit so I can listen to your unintelligible rants of pure shit. Please Rocky Road instruct me on what I'm supposed to view as racism. Please shout your shitty ideas so that I be happy that a white guy like you can just go out and inform all us minorities about your views about what is racism and how it should be labeled in my eyes. I'm sure you'd like me to sit back and eat the pure crap that people like you dish out. I guess I should be thanking you for teaching me about something that I get to deal with almost daily. I'm positive that you would really like that.

Chill the fuck out, for Christ's sake. I don't care which seat you take on the bus, but have a seat somewhere before you burst a blood vessel..... geezus.

As to your ethnicity, I would have no idea what that was, if you hadn't made a point of telling me. All I see here is words on a monitor. I don't know who is white, black, purple, or has blue polka dots unless they mention it. In your case, you showed up here accusing me of "racism" because I called out a white supremacist named Erik Prince and his fascist paramilitary corporation, whose logo you now have in your avatar (after finally ditching your homophobic assault on Rocky Anderson some 9 months after the election).

For that matter, you have no idea what my ethnicity is, because I don't make a point of talking about it.

Sorry Rocky Road, I ain't backin down from this one. Maybe you can share with all of us how EVERDAY you were discriminated against while you were growing up so I can understand your view-point. Guess what Rocky Road - you can't - the evil crap of racism never has touched you. Of course, you'll attempt to justify your own RACIST post but brother your truth stripes came out and both of us know it.

You're absolutely correct that I have never experienced instiutional bigotry on the basis of skin color. I have experienced other forms of discrimination at times.... One thing I've never done though is profile anybody or kill them based on a faulty pre-conception.

Fact: Zimmerman was investigated by the FBI at the bequest of the Justice Department. They couldn't find anything about the situation or his life that stacked up to him being a racist.

The fact that he assumed Trayvon Martin had criminal intent, simply because he was a black kid wearing a hoodie implies that Zimmerman is a racist.

The fact that he said "fucking coons, they always get away with it" PROVES that he's a racist. I'm sure you will agree that there's no positive way to spin that slur.

[WACF]

Ford...can you honestly say you have never profiled anyone?

I have...sometimes it is a matter of saving your ass.

edit

By no means am I defending Zimmerman.

He is a real dick.

He caused his incident that cost a young man his life...that much is proven.

Martin was not the angel portrayed by the media...I do not get why they did that.

Regardless...he did not deserve to die.

Zimmerman has been demonized by the media...so much false shit reported about his past...and it gets eaten up.

He will die...if not by his hand some do gooder will do it for him...guaranteed.

[WACF]

...bizzare defending Zimmerman...

but...

That case and how it was handled was just fucked...just as fucked as that SYG law.

I take a bigger issue with the media and selective reporting on this.

[FORD]

Ford...can you honestly say you have never profiled anyone?

I have...sometimes it is a matter of saving your ass.

You will notice my exact words there were "One thing I've never done though is profile anybody or kill them based on a faulty pre-conception.".

A faulty pre-conception would be that wearing a hooded sweatshirt in the rain is an indication of criminal intent.

Now on the other hand, if I saw somebody walking towards me with a shaved head, Doc Martens and a t-shirt with a swastika on it, I would probably be correct in assuming he was a neo-nazi shitbag, and most likely looking for trouble.

Just the shaved head itself, probably not. I shave my head every summer, and despite the insistence of some to the contrary, I most certainly am no nazi. I have yet to come across a Size 15 pair of Doc Martens though, so I'm not to worried about being mistaken for a Nazi before my hair grows back. Also, not a lot of Sieg Heiling going on in this neighborhood.

[FORD]

Series of indiscreet emails reveals how Lake Mary chief Steve Bracknell believes Zimmerman, 29, to be 'ticking time bomb'

Richard Luscombe in Miami
theguardian.com, Friday 13 September 2013 11.51 EDT


George Zimmerklansman (right) was investigated by police in Lake Mary last week over a domestic dispute with his wife Shellie. Photograph: John Raoux/AP


A series of indiscreet emails by a Florida police chief has revealed his belief that Trayvon Martin's killer George Zimmerman is a volatile character who is "a Sandy Hook waiting to happen".

Steve Bracknell is the chief of the Lake Mary police department, which is investigating Zimmerman, 29, for allegedly threatening his estranged wife, Shellie, and his father-in-law with a gun on Monday.

In an email exchange with a Lake Mary resident critical of the department's initial decision not to arrest or charge Zimmerman, Bracknell appears to agree with the writer's description of Zimmerman, acquitted in July of murdering Martin, an unarmed black teenager, as "a ticking time bomb".

"Zimmerman is a Sandy Hook, Aurora waiting to happen," the resident, Santiago Rodriguez, told Bracknell in his first email, seeking an explanation for why Lake Mary officers did not charge Zimmerman.

"Your reference to Sandy Hook … I agree," Bracknell replied.

At the end of a follow-up email urging Bracknell not to "give up" on the investigation, Rodriguez wrote: "Sooner or later another mother and father is going to be on CNN lashing out against the system due to this man snapping."

Bracknell replied: "As for your final thoughts, again, on a personal note, I agree."

Neither the police chief, nor his department's spokesman, Zach Hudson, responded to a request from the Guardian for comment Friday, but the political blog ThinkProgress, which published the email exchange on Thursday night, said Bracknell confirmed the messages were authentic.

It followed an off-the-cuff comment Bracknell made to a reporter from Los Angeles on Monday in response to the massive media interest in the confrontation between George and Shellie Zimmerman at her father's house in Lake Mary.

"Man, it would be fantastic if you had an apartment out there [in California] for George Zimmerman. This guy is killing me," he said.

And in one of the emails to Rodriguez, he insists: "Rest assured, the last thing on planet earth I want is any relationship with the Zimmermans. Period."

Police said on Wednesday that no decision would be made for many weeks if Zimmerman should face charges over the incident, in which Shellie Zimmerman called 911 to report he was threatening her and her father with a gun.

"He's just threatening all of us with his firearm, and he's gonna shoot us. He punched my dad in the nose. My dad has a mark on his face," she said in the recording of the call, made as the couple argued over their belongings.

Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce last week and, according to the police report, had gone to the house they once shared to pick up some of her possessions when her husband also turned up.

At some point during their confrontation, Shellie Zimmerman began recording him on an iPad, which he then allegedly smashed on the floor and cut with a pocket knife. Detectives say it could take months for forensic investigators to establish if any of the footage is retrievable.

The investigation stalled when Shellie Zimmerman, after talking with her lawyer, Kelly Sims, and her husband's attorney, Mark O'Mara, decided she did not want to press charges. She and her father, David Dean, then told police they had not seen George Zimmerman with a weapon, apparently contradicting what she told police dispatchers.

"I do not know why she changed her story. I could only guess, and that would be improper," Bracknell said in his email.

However, Shellie Zimmerman is serving 12 months' probation for perjury stemming from a lie she told a judge about the couple's finances at her husband's bail hearing last year. George Zimmerman told police that she hit him on the back with the iPad and that he smashed in to stop her.

Her backtracking left detectives relying on the iPad, which Hudson said was "in really bad shape."

"At this point, we do not have the tools available to effectively look at the video. As it stands right now, there will not be any charges anytime soon without that iPad," he said.

Bracknell described Monday's incident as "a very unusual occurrence" but denied there was any conspiracy or cover-up into why Zimmerman was released without charge after only a brief period "in investigative custody".

"The 911 tapes needs [sic] to be supported by physical evidence of the alleged physical violence. Since Shellie and her father refused to prosecute, we were powerless to arrest anyone," he wrote.

"Remember, we were the agency that wrote him a $256.00 [speeding] citation last week! No freebies here in Lake Mary."

© 2013 Guardian News and Media Limited or its affiliated companies. All rights reserved.

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[FORD]

Did not know that Zimmerklansman had an uncle who was a sheriff, but somehow I'm not surprised....

I certainly hope this is not the same uncle who fathered the niece he repeatedly raped when she was a child, or that fucker REALLY needs to lose his badge.

[Von Halen]

Well, this fucking guy is at it again. I'm really starting to think he needs to take one right between the eyes. I tried to believe his story the first time, but he is making it harder and harder to not revisit my beliefs on that incident.