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    Scottish Independence. Good or Bad?

    It's a question. It's coming up for a vote from what I understand. It hasn't been big news here but I heard some pros and cons , mainly cons about it on tv tonight. Didn't sound like the Scots or the Brits this particular station interviewed liked the idea.

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    Good.







    And while you are at....Fuck the Irish and their Bullets:

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    Good , fucking moochers
    fuck your fucking framing

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Good , fucking moochers
    Really? "Moochers"? Could this due to Scotland wanting to distance itself from the stench that is England? I've been to Limeyland twice. I thought places like New Jersey and Commerce City, Colorado were bad, both were paradise when compared to that fetid land mass masquerading itself off as a country. London has to be one of the filthiest places on earth. Trash everywhere, people too callous and/or too stupid to care about their city apart from tourism which is what in Limeyland, those phone boxes and polluting double decker buses? At least Scotland has some green to it where Limeyland (particularly London) is a open-ended landfill full of fuckwits some of which form "bands" but enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Really? "Moochers"? Could this due to Scotland wanting to distance itself from the stench that is England? I've been to Limeyland twice. I thought places like New Jersey and Commerce City, Colorado were bad, both were paradise when compared to that fetid land mass masquerading itself off as a country. London has to be one of the filthiest places on earth. Trash everywhere, people too callous and/or too stupid to care about their city apart from tourism which is what in Limeyland, those phone boxes and polluting double decker buses? At least Scotland has some green to it where Limeyland (particularly London) is a open-ended landfill full of fuckwits some of which form "bands" but enough said.
    Yeah probably , what's green ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Yeah probably , what's green ??
    The Scottish people's teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Really? "Moochers"? Could this due to Scotland wanting to distance itself from the stench that is England? I've been to Limeyland twice. I thought places like New Jersey and Commerce City, Colorado were bad, both were paradise when compared to that fetid land mass masquerading itself off as a country. London has to be one of the filthiest places on earth. Trash everywhere, people too callous and/or too stupid to care about their city apart from tourism which is what in Limeyland, those phone boxes and polluting double decker buses? At least Scotland has some green to it where Limeyland (particularly London) is a open-ended landfill full of fuckwits some of which form "bands" but enough said.
    Am just pleased you have a passport Hun

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Am just pleased you have a passport Hun
    She might have had one but I doubt she has one. They don't allow mental patients in sanitariums to have passports. I'm actually surprised they allow them to use the internet. Probably some type of mental rehab program.

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    The Shetland isles would like independence from Scotland . Seemingly they think Scotland is full of soft shandy drinking southerners
    Plus they keep all the oil and make some sheep billionaires

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    The Shetland isles would like independence from Scotland . Seemingly they think Scotland is full of soft shandy drinking southerners
    Plus they keep all the oil and make some sheep billionaires
    Ironically enough, it seems the Shetland Isles are decidedly against breaking up the band at all.......

    Shetland Islands 18,516 Y- 36.29% N-63.71%
    Orkney Islands are even more against it....

    Orkney Islands 17,806 Y-32.80% N-67.20%
    That's all that was available when I checked. More results to follow....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Ironically enough, it seems the Shetland Isles are decidedly against breaking up the band at all.......



    Orkney Islands are even more against it....



    That's all that was available when I checked. More results to follow....
    If they were called the Shatland Isles nobody would want to live there. It sounds like a shitty place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    If they were called the Shatland Isles nobody would want to live there. It sounds like a shitty place.
    Yeah, now it only sounds like a place where a bunch of midget horses run around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Couldn't watch it but went and checked it on you tube it was good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Had to find it elsewhere but very good.

    Haggis is nice BTW...

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    You don't have any independence until you have your own currency. This business of continuing to use the pound sterling or the euro is not independence. What you have is the illusion of independence but no real independence. So the whole thing is a bit of a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    You don't have any independence until you have your own currency. This business of continuing to use the pound sterling or the euro is not independence. What you have is the illusion of independence but no real independence. So the whole thing is a bit of a joke.
    So you managed to get the subject onto banking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    So you managed to get the subject onto banking...

    It's all about money. The rest is just conversation. Try doing anything without any financing. I live in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I live in the real world.
    yeah they get a vote to leave England next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    It's all about money. The rest is just conversation. Try doing anything without any financing. I live in the real world.
    You're soulless, there is so much more to life than money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You're soulless, there is so much more to life than money.
    Not in the world of commerce and politics. Go ahead. Try to do anything without any financing. See how far you get. You won't go anywhere. Is there more to life than money. Sure but that is a life outside of commerce and politics. That's your life with family and friends.

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    Speaking of "green", does Kristy have her new seasonal bong yet?



    Yeah, the bong itself ain't green, but you know......

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    Pumpkin bongs? Nope. Pumpkins belong in patches for cartoon character to waste their lives on. It sure as shit does not belong in beer and the same must go for weed.

    Symbolic of waiting for the return of Christ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Pumpkin bongs? Nope. Pumpkins belong in patches for cartoon character to waste their lives on. It sure as shit does not belong in beer and the same must go for weed.

    Symbolic of waiting for the return of Christ?

    I must admit to a slight morbid unholy curiosity about this Red Hook creation......



    Don't really care for pumpkin ales, but the flavor might actually mix better with a darker beer

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    Recycled douche water, nothing more:


    Now, I will go on record saying if this is made from my recycled douche water I am owned some serious royalties.

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    Are there any plans in place for a Scottish currency, should the secession vote pass?

    I don't see everything through the lense of a bankster conspiracy like Nitro does, but it is a valid point, that if you still used the pound as currency, it's still financially dependent on England, to some extent. Or the EU, if you went with the Euro.

    Guess there's always the Bitcoin route....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Are there any plans in place for a Scottish currency, should the secession vote pass?

    I don't see everything through the lense of a bankster conspiracy like Nitro does, but it is a valid point, that if you still used the pound as currency, it's still financially dependent on England, to some extent. Or the EU, if you went with the Euro.

    Guess there's always the Bitcoin route....
    It's not really an independence vote. It's a decision of being ruled by London or ruled by Brussels. All I can say is Brussels is on pins and needles and the only thing keeping it going is Germany and they have their problems. Since London is the international financial fraud capital of the world, they probably will outlast the thrown together rickety European Union. I'm betting the British Pound Sterling will outlast the Euro. Of course if pissing off Queen Elizabeth II floats your boat, hell vote independent. Then Scotland can charge taxes on all the royal estates in Scotland. If they refuse to pay, nuke em because Scotland will have the nukes. Hell vote independence and blackmail England and Wales into becoming Scotland. What goes around comes around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Are there any plans in place for a Scottish currency, should the secession vote pass?

    I don't see everything through the lense of a bankster conspiracy like Nitro does, but it is a valid point, that if you still used the pound as currency, it's still financially dependent on England, to some extent. Or the EU, if you went with the Euro.

    Guess there's always the Bitcoin route....


    7 or 8 years ago it wasn't even an issue it was always assumed it would be the Euro, now that is not considered an option.

    There is a lot of nonsense being thrown around about currency, we could use the dollar if we wished no one can stop you.

    By far the most likely result will be we share the pound at first. If we don't then we can walk away from the UK debt which is now $160k per person.

    That would give us a shitty credit rating but no debt and with 15 billion barrels of oil, I think we would manage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    we can walk away from the UK debt which is now $160k per person.

    That would give us a shitty credit rating but no debt and with 15 billion barrels of oil, I think we would manage.
    I thought Welsh/Welch was a derogatory term applicable to residents of one of those other islands over there? Who knew declaring a country-wide bankruptcy was the new move to financial independence? Those tricky Scots!

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    Vote YES, Scotch friends, and then join the EU!



    What's your take about the referendum, Sesh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jérôme Frenchise View Post
    Vote YES, Scotch friends, and then join the EU!



    What's your take about the referendum, Sesh?
    Older people are voting no, and usually old people vote more than young people.

    Optimists are voting yes, pessimists no.

    If you looked at my Facebook feed you would think it was 95% yes to independence but maybe that's just the kind of people I hang around with but more likely No people are keeping quieter. It's a more difficult message to get excited about shouting in the streets 'things could be worse'.


    What is pretty amazing is it's gone very social media. Three out of the four main political parties are No which has led the BBC to get itself in a mess of bias accusations by having 3 v 1 debates/coverage. Meanwhile 95% of the the newspapers(English/foreign owned) have been running massive No campaigns for months. Despite all this the Yes campaign has moved 20 points better in the polls in the last couple of months from 39% to 49% kind of thing.

    But, despite all that the bookmakers have it still as 4-1 against a Yes vote and how often do they get stuff like that so wrong?
    Last edited by Seshmeister; 09-15-2014 at 03:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post

    If you looked at my Facebook feed..
    No, I don't care to do that.

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    Well, the fundagelicals will tell you that the kingdom of my son, the Antichrist, will come out of a revised Roman empire. So the European Union has to stick around in some form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Well, the fundagelicals will tell you that the kingdom of my son, the Antichrist, will come out of a revised Roman empire. So the European Union has to stick around in some form.
    The revised Roman empire is the Vatican. Plenty of child ass fuckers in there to be the anti-christ. Maybe a more seedy cess pool than Brussels.

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    If Scotland goes independent they just need to have a low corporate tax rate and lure multinational corporations to headquarter there and pay their taxes there. Then they can legalize gambling and become an offshore tax haven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    If Scotland goes independent they just need to have a low corporate tax rate and lure multinational corporations to headquarter there and pay their taxes there. Then they can legalize gambling and become an offshore tax haven.
    Gambling is legal already but yeah they could open that up a bit as at the moment you can't drink at a gaming table or tip dealers which takes away about 90% of the fun out of it for me so I only go to casinos when I'm in Vegas.

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    The argument is 'if you don't let us share the banking reserve and the pound why should we share the downside which is the debt'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The argument is 'if you don't let us share the banking reserve and the pound why should we share the downside which is the debt'.
    I would say it's kind of like me expecting you to pay me the money you borrowed from me, but at the same time not giving you a key to my house so you could raid my fridge.

    That said, I know nothing about what really happens in such rainy parts of the world. Just padding my post count, working on some cred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VetteLS5 View Post
    I would say it's kind of like me expecting you to pay me the money you borrowed from me, but at the same time not giving you a key to my house so you could raid my fridge.
    A better analogy would be ages ago you got me to the point I couldn't afford my rent on my old place because you parked your car in my driveway so I couldn't get my car out to go to work. You suggested I move in with you but now years later I've got fed up with how you've been spending the household budget.

    I say I'm moving out but I'll keep paying my share of our old credit card bill but only if I can put the old address on forms when I get asked about my credit history.

    Or something like that...

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    The one serious ish comment I will make as a casual observer as neither English or Scottish but a member of the greater Geordie empire .
    I don't know how much of this is driven by a desire for a national identity / independence or just people being totally sick of the cunty behaviour of Westminster.
    Regardless of party all people are sick of how the country is run and has been run for a long time .
    Am pretty sure if you asked any major city North of Birmingham would they want to leave the union you would get similar sentiments to what your seeing now .

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