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This is all about regime change in Syria. Syria has it's own bank and has religious freedom with an national identity. Remember General Westly Clark said the US wanted to take over several middle east countries. Syria has oil and is prime real estate for pipelines. First it's Al Quaida. Then the Islamic Brotherhood. Now ISIS or ISIL or whatever the hell you want to call the rabble. We are going to fight ISIS by supporting the anti Assad rebels. Yeah right.
Then you have these neo-con dick heads trying to scare everyone. ISIS is everywhere! The next report will say they are on the moon.
Nobody wants to go to war in Syria until some dude with a south London accent supposedly cuts off an American's head.
Last edited by Nitro Express; 09-15-2014 at 08:58 PM.
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Well, the crescent moon is a sacred symbol in Islam, so maybe Mohammed was predicting these ISHOLES would go there??
Nitro Express (09-15-2014)
And a minority cunt dictatorship that has used shear terror to keep itself dominant over ethnic majorities....
No. No, I don't remember anything like that at all...Remember General Westly Clark said the US wanted to take over several middle east countries.
They have relatively little in the way of oil and ISIS controls much of it AFAIK. There actually seems to be a tacit agreement between Assad's regime and ISIS to refine and sell it...Syria has oil and is prime real estate for pipelines. First it's Al Quaida. Then the Islamic Brotherhood. Now ISIS or ISIL or whatever the hell you want to call the rabble. We are going to fight ISIS by supporting the anti Assad rebels. Yeah right.
You seem completely confused and are rambling and conflating several different issues...Then you have these neo-con dick heads trying to scare everyone. ISIS is everywhere! The next report will say they are on the moon.
Nobody wants to go to war in Syria until some dude with a south London accent supposedly cuts off an American's head.
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Though you could have just as easily been talking about Saddam Hussein, who was a Sunni oppressing a Shia majority. Thanks to the Chimp/PNAC invasion, the Shias have been in charge since the first PNAC puppet government, and the Sunnis (which would include the ISHOLES) aren't happy about that.
Shia of course implies close ties with Iran, and Bandar Bush & his red dishtowel crowd really hate that. They despise Iran almost as much as NuttyYahoo does.
This is a response to someone posting similar rhetoric to Graham's on Facebook that I thought was pretty interesting.
"This is little more than 'bug swatting'.
ISIL isn't CLOSE to 'controlling' anything. They've nominally 'taken' a few cities and geographic areas, but they can't govern or legislate or organize people or society in those regions.
Militarily? Please!
They captured three Syrian Air bases recently. They couldn't fly any of the aircraft or even figure-out how to effort the radar-systems.
They're done.
They have stolen Oil Profits and they've looted captured Banks, but their money does them no real good in Warfare.
I mean, who can they buy an Air Force from? A Navy? All of the Mobile Armour they have is captured, not 'supplied'.
They have NO National allies. Nowhere to gather Tech Support or Maintenance for the Arms NOBODY is going to sell them."
I applaud this kind of optimism, but the fact remains that you can't kill an idea.
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I get my information from people who have lived and live in Syria. None are fans of Assad but he's better than the alternative. The main value Syria has is it's prime real estate for oil and gas pipelines to Europe which desperately needs another supply other than Russia. So lets finance some Wahabi assholes to act like pirates and sure make them believe they are starting a caliphate but then hey, once they open the door, mow them over and go for the Syrian regime change. Of course there is risk of bumping heads with Russia again but this seems to be the current game.
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Is Iraq better off with Saddam gone? Is Libya better off with Qaddafi gone? It's the middle east, not a McDonald's playground. At least you know what the rules are. They don't want religious extremists coming in and mass butchering so the west can come in after the carnage and put a puppet in to loot the country.
Last edited by Nitro Express; 09-16-2014 at 12:03 AM.
Actually the evil bankers financed Hitler. Ask Ford. He could give you a detailed break down on that I'm sure. I remember when you were all excited about the arab spring thinking it was going to end well. I said the Islamic Brotherhood was going to come in and take over and that is exactly what happened. Your arab spring was short lived. Then you were saying the Islamic Brotherhood was a thing of the past or something to that effect. Have you lived in the middle east? Please. It's a land of dictators. Even Israel is a dictatorship in a way. Just ask the Palestinians being slaughtered in that so called democracy. Democracy and the middle east mix like oil and water.
Angel (09-16-2014)
I dunno, but that's sort of a heaping pile of bullshit argument because of the U.S. invasion is what did him in. Firstly, WTF is "Iraq" anyways?
Yes they are...Is Libya better off with Qaddafi gone?
Quite contrary, the entire Middle East IS EXACTLY a McDonald's playground, a post-colonial space of Hodge-podge shit the at least partially didn't exist prior to colonialism...It's the middle east, not a McDonald's playground. At least you know what the rules are. They don't want religious extremists coming in and mass butchering so the west can come in after the carnage and put a puppet in to loot the country.
Angel (09-16-2014)
Ok. We will blame it on the French and British.
Um, actually, Hitler largely came to power because American bank financing largely dried up and his main conservative, mainstream rival withered as a result of the Great Depression and largely the collapse of Western banking...
Can he?Ask Ford. He could give you a detailed break down on that I'm sure.
It ultimately is going to end well, but will take decades and not a few years...I remember when you were all excited about the arab spring thinking it was going to end well.
Then you were really fucking wrong then. But a specific example would help. What did they "take over?" Egypt?I said the Islamic Brotherhood was going to come in and take over and that is exactly what happened.
"Your" as in "my?" Um, no...Your arab spring was short lived.
That's sort of a heaping, steaming of bullshit false choice. The main problem is that the Middle East is controlled by various neo-colonilaist interests. But there is nothing theoretically preventing democracy in the Middle East...Then you were saying the Islamic Brotherhood was a thing of the past or something to that effect. Have you lived in the middle east? Please. It's a land of dictators. Even Israel is a dictatorship in a way. Just ask the Palestinians being slaughtered in that so called democracy. Democracy and the middle east mix like oil and water.
The Palestinians? Aren't you one of the bigger Israeli dick-suckers here?
http://www.andmagazine.com/us/13027.html
A pretty good break down of Syria and the middle east in general.
Quick! Fan the fires of racism and xenophobia! "Muslims" are leaving their clothes on our border!!!
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I went to school there for a year. I didn't manage to suck any Israeli dicks. I'm sure I could have if I was into that sort of thing. The Israeli government is pretty corrupt. I'm not a big supporter of it and I also don't appreciate how they have taken over our political system over here.The Palestinians? Aren't you one of the bigger Israeli dick-suckers here?
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Fear porn. The only people who would leave so called "muslim" clothing or muslim holy books out to be found are people who want them to be found. Let's scare the American people into supporting another middle east war. Sorry. Got to be more convincing to sell me on this shit FAUX.
Next they will start rolling out Toby Kieth again singing "We are going to put a boot in yer ass" and play that barf inducing sappy song "I'm Proud to be an American". Oh and get your MADE IN CHINA American flag at Wall Fart and some of those cheesy yellow ribbons to Support Our Troops who in reality we really don't give a fuck about.
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Oh yeah, read here:
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/15/amer...msday_visions/
Joe Arpaio can be happy to know that he is no longer the dumbest sherrif in America. Unholy fuck, who gave that senile old dipshit a badge??
Last edited by Satan; 09-16-2014 at 02:12 AM.
There's no evidence that Prescott Bush was anything but a war profiteer.
Bush was one of seven directors (including W. Averell Harriman) of the Union Banking Corporation (holding a single share as a director), an investment bank that operated as a clearing house for many assets and enterprises held by German steel magnate Fritz Thyssen.[1][2] In July 1942, the bank was suspected of holding gold on behalf of Nazi leaders.[3] A subsequent government investigation disproved those allegations but confirmed the Thyssens' control, and in October 1942 the United States seized the bank under the Trading with the Enemy Act and held the assets for the duration of World War II.[4]
According to journalist Joe Conason, Prescott Bush's involvement with UBC was purely commercial and he was not a Nazi sympathizer.[5] The Anti-Defamation League[6] and historian Herbert Parmet[7] agreed with that assessment.
[1]Aris, Ben; Campbell, Duncan (September 25, 2004). "How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power". London: The Guardian. Retrieved May 22, 2010.
[2] Parmet, Herbert. "What Should We Make of the Charge Linking the Bush Family Fortune to Nazism?". History News Network. Retrieved June 5, 2011.
[3]"Hitler's Angel Has $3m in US Bank". New York Herald Tribune. July 30, 1942.
[4]Aris, Ben; Campbell, Duncan (September 25, 2004). "How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power". London: The Guardian. Retrieved May 22, 2010.
[5] Conason, Joe (October 26, 2003). "Bush 'Nazi' Smear Unworthy of Critics". New York: The New York Observer. Retrieved June 5, 2011.
[6] "Internet Rumors: Prescott Bush's Alleged Nazi "Ties"". Anti-Defamation League. December 16, 2003. Retrieved June 5, 2011.
[7] Parmet, Herbert. "What Should We Make of the Charge Linking the Bush Family Fortune to Nazism?". History News Network. Retrieved June 5, 2011.
Now let's see Ford prove any of his allegations with verifiable sources. He won't because he can't. His whole BCE concept is based on bullshit.
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just fyi----
the head of ISIS Abu Bakr al Baghdadi was in US custody but was let go back in 2009 when the Kenyan Houseboy closed down Camp Bucca.
haven't seen a lot coverage on this.
or this............
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgr...lamist-groups/
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So what do you suggest? What is your alternative? I'm not a bit supporter either, so I wanna know...
Im not a fan of Israeli cunts like Netanyahu, but the Palestinians seem to have a much bigger collage of cunts. What's the answer? Obviously a "Two State Solution?" But the fucks in Hamas are completely insane whereas the Israelis are only half as much insane...
cadaverdog (09-16-2014)
I saw one of those videos where a bunch of rag heads are trying to blow up a convoy with what looks like an anti aircraft gun in the back of a mini truck and they keep yelling Akbar. Some comedian added subtitles so everytime they yell Akbar the word snackbar appears on the screen. It might have been the weed but it made me laugh when I saw it.
The main problem is Israel is a theocracy. It's a jewish state. Just look at the flag. What you do is make Israel and all inclusive state instead. There have always been jews living there. The trouble really started when the zionist jews started making the point that they were the chosen people and they are taking over.
The mass majority of Palestinians and Jews in Israel want peace. They would get along fine if everyone could make a decent living. It's the extremists in the minority that stir the trouble and unfortunately some of them are in the government.
Personally I don't think the state of Israel will last. It's starting lose it's support in Europe and North America. As soon as AIPAC loses it's grip on US politics they are finished.
Angel (09-17-2014)
No. No, I don't remember anything like that at all...
Well Nick, Here it is for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTdx...yer_detailpage
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Remember General Westly Clark said the US wanted to take over several middle east countries.
No. No, I don't remember anything like that at all...
Well Nick, Here it is for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTdx...yer_detailpage
sorry for the duplicate post!
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General Clark was basically naming off the countries that PNAC mentioned in their treasonous agenda. And oddly enough, they managed to stir up shit in all of those countries by one means or another.
What's far more serious, is that the treasonous PNAC agenda also hinted at taking on Russia and China, as insane as that sounds. They may be well on their way to getting what they wanted with Russia.
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