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I agree, there's some variation per person on the addictiveness of nicotine.
From following posts at some of the e-cigarette sites I visit. Some folks can take up vaping and make the jump off of smoking almost immediately and others it takes months and for some they just can't make the switch.
Some of it could be the variance in gear and the quality of vapor production... others getting the right nicotine strength in their juice. Then some it seems there's clearly something in the complex chemical concoction of burning tobacco that their body continues to crave beyond nicotine and the physical hand to mouth actions.
There's some studies going on that are trying to isolate this and the tobacco-specific nitrosamines are a primary suspect. The thing that I find strange is that for all the studies and known health impacts of smoking tobacco over the last 60 years... the tobacco companies are still not required to disclose all of the chemical additives they use in processing tobacco to make cigarettes.
For an allegedly "regulated" product... why the hell aren't the ingredients in cigarettes well published and potentially restricted to just the natural tobacco to minimize health risks..? I know the answer is hidden in the money trail... but when does the world wise up..?"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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What about inhaling alcohol vapor while we're at it?
I'd rather stop drinking any alcohol than vaping it, personally - just the same with vaping instead of smoking tobacco.
posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.posted by ALinChainz Katy, Pipe down, pump off, and fly back to your cave you old bat.Comment
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There was some silly product out for vaping alcohol or breathing the fumes... Didn't work so well. Plus you really don't want alcohol going directly into your blood stream... best to make it work to get you happy then feel like crap hours later!!"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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I can't remember the technical terms but there was a doctor on the radio a while back saying that around a third of people are born without the nicotine addiction receptors in their brain. Those lucky people have no physical craving effects when they don't smoke so it's super easy for them to stop and start as they wish.
Makes sense to me as I've definitely met quite a few people like that over the years. They are a bit dangerous to the other 2/3rds who get trapped as they'll assume they can do the same thing.Comment
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My friend making the switch said that you need to smoke differently (longer draws) and that different brands work differently.
Apparently there is a lot of info online at forums - smokersarmy or whatever.
I'm kind of glad I gave up before the vaping thing as I don't think I would have bothered stopping, I would have just switched.Comment
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Mr brother and sister in law quit smoking using a combination of vaping and patches. It will be 5 years this New Years they've been tobacco free.Beware of DogComment
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Just found out they now allow nicotine in canuck vapes...I'll be pursuing this for sure..."Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013
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Also the act of smoking is addicting. Some people love the feel of the cigarette in their fingers. I guess it's like how some people are addicted to cracking their knuckles or picking their nose. LOL!No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Vaping is more like pipe smoking than cigarette smoking. I need to get one of those corn cob vape pipes and dress like General McArther for Halloween. I got the Ray Ban shades I just need a general's uniform.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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"Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013Comment
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The pre-filled disposables made by big tobacco companies you can't get 0 nicotine.
But the refillable tank units... you purchase your own e-juice and vendors sell juice in hundreds of flavors with nicotine levels per milliliter (ml) in strengths of 0, 4, 6, 12, 16, 18, 24 & 36.
There's also a booming DIY market where you can buy unflavored nicotine, vegetable glycerin (VG), Propylene Glycol (PG) and flavoring and make your own flavors and nicotine strength...
If you are going 0 nicotine... you can purchase Glycerin at a drug store and artificial flavoring at a baking supply store and make your own juice.
Angel there's a ton of vapers in Canada that are able to get juice with or without nicotine... Here's a great resource if you are interested... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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Actually the vaping concept was invented by a guy in China who was trying to quit smoking. He came up with the idea of heating water into steam in a device that replicated a cigarette and smoking. When you drag on the vape device, the vacuum closes a switch which sends electrical current to a resistor heating element which boils water based liquid into steam and makes the vapor. You can add whatever you want into the vape juice or just have plain water in it.
The theory is you would make the vape juice close to the nicotine level of a regular cigarette and then slowly lower the nicotine content until the vape juice was nicotine free but you still could smoke something. Part of the addiction is having a cigarette in your hand and dragging on it and with a vape device that's all covered.
In fact, it's started a new addiction of buying various vape devices, juices, batteries and charging devices. LOL!No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Someone said this juice was worth trying.
Our next door neighbor when I was kid smoked a pipe. He smoked this cherry blend tobacco and you could tell when he was outside because you could smell the cherry tobacco. It was the most awesome smell. This was the type of dude that had the totally manicured yard. Played golf religiously and drove a cool black Thunderbird covertible that was always shined up and polished and looked like it had been detailed. If the guy pulled it out of the garage, the inside of the garage was pristine with all the tools hanging neatly on custom organized pegs. Not a weed to be found in his perfect flower beds.
It was like the dude lived in a perfect world. He must have had gnomes doing his gardening and washing and cleaning his car. Everyone at one time or another has a messy garage. Not this guy. Not even an oil spot on the garage floor.
These are the aliens amongst us. The perfect people. You really do wonder where they come from.Last edited by Nitro Express; 09-18-2014, 11:53 AM.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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