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    The Bombing of ISIS

    U.S. and Allies Strike ISIS Targets in Syria

    By BEN HUBBARD, ALAN COWELL and HELENE COOPERSEPT. 23, 2014


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    BEIRUT, Lebanon — The United States and five Arab allies launched a wide-ranging air campaign against the Islamic State and at least one other extremist group in Syria for the first time early Tuesday, targeting the groups’ bases, training camps and checkpoints in at least four provinces, according to the United States military and Syrian activists.

    The attacks struck a fierce opening blow against the jihadists of the Islamic State, scattering their forces and damaging the network of facilities they have built in Syria that helped fuel the group’s seizure of a large part of Iraq this year.

    Separate from the attacks on the Islamic State, the United States Central Command, or Centcom, said that American forces acting alone “took action” against “a network of seasoned Al Qaeda veterans” from the Khorasan group in Syria to disrupt “imminent attack planning against the United States and Western interests.”

    Officials did not reveal where or when such attacks might take place.

    Al Qaeda cut ties with the Islamic State earlier this year because the group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, disobeyed orders from Al Qaeda to fight only in Iraq. Just days ago, American officials said the Khorasan group, led by a shadowy figure who was once in Osama bin Laden’s inner circle, had emerged in the past year as the Syria-based cell most intent on launching a terror attack on the United States or on its installations overseas.

    Some background on goals, tactics and the potential long-term threat to the United States from the militant group known as the Islamic State.
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    The latest campaign opened with multiple strikes before dawn that focused on the Islamic State’s de facto capital, the city of Raqqa, and on its bases in the surrounding countryside. Other strikes hit in the provinces of Deir al-Zour and Hasaka, whose oil wells the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, have exploited to finance its operations.

    The extent of the damage caused by the strikes remained unclear. Centcom said the wave of fighter planes, bombers, drones and cruise missiles struck 14 targets linked to the Islamic State.

    “All aircraft safely exited the strike areas,” the statement said.

    Almost 50 cruise missiles were launched from two American vessels in the Red Sea and the north of the Persian Gulf, it said, adding that four other attacks were launched on militant targets in Iraq in the same period, bringing the total there to 194.

    The intensity and scale of the strikes were greater than those launched by the United States in Iraq, where it has been bombing select Islamic State targets for months. The air campaign also marks the biggest direct military intervention in Syria since the crisis began more than three years ago.

    Centcom identified the Arab states participating in the campaign as Bahrain, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Their participation is seen as important to limit criticisms that the United States is waging war alone against Muslims. But their role varied between support for the strikes and participation, the military said.

    The Jordanian Army said on Tuesday that it had carried out airstrikes against “terrorist groups” that were plotting to attack Jordan, according to Reuters.

    In intervening in Syria, the United States is injecting its military might into a brutal civil war between the government of President Bashar al-Assad, the Islamic State and a range of rebel groups that originally took up arms to fight Mr. Assad but have also come to oppose the Islamic State.

    It was unclear what effect the American-led strikes would have on the larger conflict.

    The Islamic State, while having chalked up numerous victories against the Syrian and Iraqi security forces and against Syrian rebels, has proved vulnerable to air power in Iraq, and it is unlikely that it can continue to hold all of its territory and facilities amid a sustained air campaign.

    American officials said that the strikes were not coordinated with the government of Mr. Assad, who President Obama has said has lost his legitimacy to rule and should step down.

    But Syrian state television reported on Monday that the United States had informed Syria’s ambassador to the United Nations before the attacks were launched. This followed weeks of threats by Syrian officials that any uncoordinated strikes on Syria would be considered an act of aggression.

    Some of Syria’s allies have suggested that the government in Damascus would benefit from strikes, although analysts question whether the Syrian military has the forces it would need to do so.

    Syria also has hundreds of rebels groups, many of which hate the Islamic State, and the United States has been working with allies to build up a small number groups deemed moderate. But these forces remain relatively small and are far from the Islamic State’s locations, so there is little chance that they will soon be able to seize control of any areas vacated by the Islamic State.

    Reuters quoted an unidentified ISIS fighter as saying “these attacks will be answered.” The militants have already released videos showing the beheadings of two American hostages and of one British captive, and have threatened a fourth hostage, a Briton, with the same fate.

    Additionally, an Algerian group linked to Islamic State has claimed to have kidnapped a French citizen. Prime Minister Manuel Valls told French radio that there would be “no discussion, no negotiation and we will never give in to blackmail” about the hostage’s fate.

    France, whose warplanes joined the air campaign in Iraq last week but not the overnight strikes in Syria, has strongly denied persistent reports that it has paid ransom money to free its citizens held hostage by jihadist groups.

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported strikes in five Syrian provinces, in the country’s north and east, targeting bases and training camps of the Islamic State and other groups.

    In addition to Islamic State bases in the provinces of Raqqa, Hasaka, Deir al-Zour and Aleppo, strikes also hit bases belonging to the Nusra Front further west, killing at least seven Nusra fighters and eight civilians, according to the observatory, which tracks the conflict from Britain through a network of contacts in Syria.

    Even for a population that has grown used to the sounds and sights of war, the new strikes proved surprising.

    In a video posted online, a man in Idlib Province inspected a greenish metal hunk of what he said was the remainder of the munitions used in a strike.

    “No one knows what happened yet,” the man said. “This was the first time we have heard an explosion like this during this revolution.”

    Adding to the broader ramifications of the Syrian war, the Israeli military said Tuesday that it had shot down a Syrian fighter jet that had “infiltrated into Israeli airspace,” the first such incident in at least a quarter of a century.

    Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, a military spokesman, said the Patriot air-defense system had intercepted a Russian-made Sukhoi warplane over the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights around 9:15 a.m.

    On Syria’s northern border, meanwhile, more than 130,000 Syrian Kurds have fled into Turkey to escape an advance by Islamic State fighters. The humanitarian catastrophe could worsen within days. The United Nations relief agency in Geneva said on Tuesday that it was possible that all 400,000 inhabitants of a Syrian Kurdish border town, which Arabs refer to as Ayn-al-Arab and Kurds call Kobani, would to try to flee into Turkey.

    The United Nations human rights agency said Tuesday that it had received “very alarming” reports from the town of “deliberate killing of civilians, including women and children, the abduction of hundreds of Kurds by ISIL, and widespread looting and destruction of infrastructure and private property.”

    Militants had taken over the main source of water, leading to severe shortages, the agency said. “While an estimated 138,000 people have fled the area,” the organization added in a statement, “hundreds of thousands remain in the region, living in fear of the kind of persecution that ISIL has carried out against religious and ethnic minorities elsewhere in Syria and Iraq.”

    In Britain, senior officials said Prime Minister David Cameron was weighing whether to seek Parliament’s approval to join the air war, but only in Iraq and at the invitation of the Baghdad government.

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    Ben Hubbard reported from Beirut, Alan Cowell from London and Helene Cooper from Washington. Mohammed Ghannam contributed reporting from Beirut. Eric Schmitt from Washington, and Somini Sengupta from the United Nations.
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    Shouldn't be long before an attack on the west like the one foiled in Australia takes place.
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    You knew we were going to bomb something.......you can't behead journalists and not expect it!

    It just amazes me that they're talking about arming the opposition to ISIS. We've had so much success with that in the past! If you're the MIC and want to create our next enemy and make sure they have the tools to fight us, that is!

    Bill Clinton said we can't win a ground war in Iraq we've proven that! He's right......we're great at overrunning and collapsing regimes but really shitty at occupations.

    While these guys are bad and will continue to escalate their deeds.......in proportion they're not even the biggest threat to the US or it's interests.

    The theory of perpetual war only enriches a few at a great cost to many.....while fighting one enemy you create new enemies.......you stall economic progress here and in the end, never solve the real problem.
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    There is no coalition force in play here. This is Iraq 1991 part deux The only diffy being there is no oil at stake - at least not yet. ISIS is more or less a gang of roaming thugs who rape, rob and murder in the name of Islam and America does not give one shit when it comes to Muslims brutally murdering other Muslims. However, when it comes to US corporate interest, meaning OIL then it becomes quite a another story. ISIS could easy be destroyed in months but that will never happen as long as there is profit involved. Makes one wonder how much the American war machine(s) stand to gain in prolonging an enemy that is well funded, armed and ruthless.

    ISIS is a(nother) Wall Street war just like Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no money to be made in Syria unless you're someone like Raytheon knowing the corporate media whores who perpetuate fear into the American watching public will not question their tax dollars being put on the wings of F-16s and drones killing the uneducated and poor in the Third World. It's a great gig if you can get in on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Shouldn't be long before an attack on the west like the one foiled in Australia takes place.
    Wouldn't it be nice if these guys really were make believe? Just some shadowy CIA operation restricted to Dirtville? Yeah, they're not. They are coming here. And it won't take many of them, say 30 or 50. Blow themselves up in a couple schools, maybe a church, and behead a couple people in the streets and guess what happens? There will be a war waged in this country that will make the Civil War look like the Christmas Play at the Baptist church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice if these guys really were make believe? Just some shadowy CIA operation restricted to Dirtville? Yeah, they're not. They are coming here. And it won't take many of them, say 30 or 50. Blow themselves up in a couple schools, maybe a church, and behead a couple people in the streets and guess what happens? There will be a war waged in this country that will make the Civil War look like the Christmas Play at the Baptist church.
    A war against whom? Sleeper cells awaiting their calling to kamikaze their own asses in said churches and schools? If so, then we already lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    A war against whom? Sleeper cells awaiting their calling to kamikaze their own asses in said churches and schools? If so, then we already lost.
    That's what I'm saying. They're here and there will be more of them before long. And how many young people in this country are becoming bedroom radicals, getting indoctrinated via the internet and seeing this as their time to do their part to usher in the Caliphate? When they start going nuts here it's gonna be us against them - and we'll all be us and we'll all be them, depending on who's standing in front of you at any given time. Ah, I hope I'm wrong. I'd rather play on the internet in my free time than have to worry if the guy next to me in traffic wants to chop my head off.

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    OK Captain Paranoid...... How many sleeper cells and people would you estimate are here..... 100? 1,000? Hell, for the sake of argument let's say there's 10,000 on American soil right now and they'll strike in a coordinated effort at the stroke of Midnight, tonight! While horrific, not even close to the worst battle in the Civil War! You do realize keeping you afraid is the whole point.....thinking that sleeper cells could do anything but marginal damage means the propaganda has you hook line and sinker!

    The threat isn't as big as the media would have you think and the beauty of this Terra scam is it only takes a small group of people to do a couple of gruesome murders and everyone loses their fucking minds!

    You're part of the problem, dude! Being easily duped!

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    You misunderstand my post, King Of Queers. I'm not saying even several terrorist strikes would cripple the country. Not by a long shot. It's gonna be the aftermath that's gonna tear the country apart. Like you just said, "it only takes a small group of people to do a couple of gruesome murders and everyone loses their fucking minds!" And it's the people running around terrified and suspicious of every other person that's gonna be the problem. Or maybe everybody will hold hands and sing We Are The World. Who knows.

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    And where the hell have you been lately?

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    You have a similar chance of being crushed by your tv than in a terrorist attack .
    We need a war on tv , it will help the cathod Ray dollar .

    Though that statistic may not include these thin flat screen numbers , they are pretty cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    You have a similar chance of being crushed by your tv than in a terrorist attack .
    We need a war on tv , it will help the cathod Ray dollar .

    Though that statistic may not include these thin flat screen numbers , they are pretty cool
    Huh, well, the Australians would argue against that. Not the tv part, tv is Devilly!

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    The Bombing of ISIS

    The aftermath will only concern the kids in our military because as the aftermath of 9/11 has shown.......we'll have to invade whatever country we pretend has harbored these dastardly villains and deregulate Wall St some more so we can all have another Dubya sandwich!

    King of Queers, eh.......how's all those other awesome websites you guys are building to take down the Army? Been outta the loop for awhile

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    Australians arnt worried about terrorists I've met loads , last orders scares the jeezus out of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    King of Queers, eh.......how's all those other awesome websites you guys are building to take down the Army? Been outta the loop for awhile
    Much like Al Qaeda, ISIL, and The United Front Of Boogeymen, I have decided to attack the Army from within! I have received a letter of surrender from Sesh but I couldn't understand a word he was saying so the war continues.

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    If we Desert Storm every time a terra'ist attack happens .......the terra'ist win! Just like they won the last wars! Bankrupted the country and had us bogged down in two occupations we could never win and we were the best advertising for new members to join their group!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Much like Al Qaeda, ISIL, and The United Front Of Boogeymen, I have decided to attack the Army from within! I have received a letter of surrender from Sesh but I couldn't understand a word he was saying so the war continues.
    Good.......I'd hate to see all that ass kissing you did on both sides go to waste

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Good.......I'd hate to see all that ass kissing you did on both sides go to waste
    It's called Diplomacy. And in the end, I shall unite all of the sites under one giant gay message board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    It's called Diplomacy. And in the end, I shall unite all of the sites under one giant gay message board!
    Your spelling is shocking , it's diplunacy

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Your spelling is shocking , it's diplunacy
    I can neither read nor write. I simply try to bring the people together. It's what I do best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    You knew we were going to bomb something.......you can't behead journalists and not expect it!

    It just amazes me that they're talking about arming the opposition to ISIS. We've had so much success with that in the past! If you're the MIC and want to create our next enemy and make sure they have the tools to fight us, that is!

    Bill Clinton said we can't win a ground war in Iraq we've proven that! He's right......we're great at overrunning and collapsing regimes but really shitty at occupations.

    While these guys are bad and will continue to escalate their deeds.......in proportion they're not even the biggest threat to the US or it's interests.

    The theory of perpetual war only enriches a few at a great cost to many.....while fighting one enemy you create new enemies.......you stall economic progress here and in the end, never solve the real problem.
    The US solution to problems now is to bomb the problem. Maybe that's the solution to fixing the stalemate and problems in Washington DC. Sorry Bobby. I know the new healthcare premiums have gone up even higher and the IRS is after your ass because you can't afford to pay them. I know you are going to die from cancer from the lack of treatment. Oh what's that? Washington got carpet bombed? There is no IRS or Affordable Care Act anymore. Tell you what Bobby. I bet the doctor will barter cancer treatment for sexual favors from that hot daughter of yours now since the government is out of the way and we are back to a true free market system.

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    Once we kill off ISIS we with fight OSIRIS and HORUS. We might even put a cap in that damn dog called INUBUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    The theory of perpetual war only enriches a few at a great cost to many.....while fighting one enemy you create new enemies.......you stall economic progress here and in the end, never solve the real problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice if these guys really were make believe? Just some shadowy CIA operation restricted to Dirtville? Yeah, they're not. They are coming here. And it won't take many of them, say 30 or 50. Blow themselves up in a couple schools, maybe a church, and behead a couple people in the streets and guess what happens? There will be a war waged in this country that will make the Civil War look like the Christmas Play at the Baptist church.
    If it happened all this faggy fighting between the Democrats and Republicans would end. Everyone would stop being a faggot and unify to crucify the troublemakers. Once we kill them off we can go back to the fag fight again.

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    It's time to eat more Wheaties and get a wallet that says "Bad Motherfucker" on it.

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    Al Quaida 2.0 Syria is the new Iraq. Same shit. Different names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    If we Desert Storm every time a terra'ist attack happens .......the terra'ist win! Just like they won the last wars! Bankrupted the country and had us bogged down in two occupations we could never win and we were the best advertising for new members to join their group!
    The military contractors win. I say we get jobs and invest in companies that make military drones. The citizens are too dumb to fix anything so let's make some money on the elite's coat tails and buy a ticket far away from any consequences. The nuclear fallout will stay in the northern hemisphere so I say we get ranches in South America and have harems of hot women and wear general uniforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Shark View Post
    Nicely done bro. The weed is working.
    Yep.....it's turned me into a pacifist

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    I'm just glad I'm old and won't have to be here much longer. How does anyone expect to win anything when no one can agree who the enemy is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Al Quaida 2.0 Syria is the new Iraq. Same shit. Different names.
    It's the exact same and the same war mongers are going on TV to scare us into another failed occupation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    There is no coalition force in play here. This is Iraq 1991 part deux The only diffy being there is no oil at stake - at least not yet. ISIS is more or less a gang of roaming thugs who rape, rob and murder in the name of Islam and America does not give one shit when it comes to Muslims brutally murdering other Muslims. However, when it comes to US corporate interest, meaning OIL then it becomes quite a another story. ISIS could easy be destroyed in months but that will never happen as long as there is profit involved. Makes one wonder how much the American war machine(s) stand to gain in prolonging an enemy that is well funded, armed and ruthless.

    ISIS is a(nother) Wall Street war just like Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no money to be made in Syria unless you're someone like Raytheon knowing the corporate media whores who perpetuate fear into the American watching public will not question their tax dollars being put on the wings of F-16s and drones killing the uneducated and poor in the Third World. It's a great gig if you can get in on it.


    Yup. The neocon faggots like Guliani and McCain are saying Iran is a bigger threat than ISIS. So they are already trying to use the fear as fuel to attack Iran. It's all bullshit. It's about many things. Oil, pipelines, but Iran is about controlling a key energy supplier to China. The US is moving it's chess pieces against China. It's why we are putting troops in Australia. It's why there is a constant urge to move against Iran. A move against Iran is a move against China. The world is dividing up. Pick a side.

    The Chinese and their allies will just bide their time and run cyber and financial warfare games. They know if they provide enough time, it will just give the US and Europe enough rope to hang themselves with.

    Also the big boyz running policy now don't give a shit about American journalists. They really don't. Americans are cannon fodder to fight bankers wars with. The politicians don't care about you. Their behavior in Washington makes this clear. So fuck em. Fuck em all. At least the guys in ISIS take a bit of risk going out and doing their own dirty work. In the process of cutting off heads and wrecking havoc they might get shot or worse. Politicans and bankers never do their own dirty work. So thugs who take risks have more balls and are worthy of at least that respect.
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    Since China already owns us financially......I'll choose China, comrade

    Plus they have cute outfits

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    It's the exact same and the same war mongers are going on TV to scare us into another failed occupation!
    Bingo! Even Dick Cheney rolled out of mothballs. Gulianni is running his trap. I'm sure the British faggots like Tony Blair are parading around now. Maybe we should ask Collin Powell if he wants to go to the UN again and do a presentation on ISIS. LOL! They can keep cooking up bad guys forever in the middle east. Plenty of disgruntled people to use. You just need money and a charismatic leader on the payroll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Bingo! Even Dick Cheney rolled out of mothballs. Gulianni is running his trap. I'm sure the British faggots like Tony Blair are parading around now. Maybe we should ask Collin Powell if he wants to go to the UN again and do a presentation on ISIS. LOL! They can keep cooking up bad guys forever in the middle east. Plenty of disgruntled people to use. You just need money and a charismatic leader on the payroll.
    Well, Dick stands to make millions of more dollars if we can get into another failed occupation........Haliburton is the gift that keeps on giving to him!

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    There's 300 million firearms in the US. The citizens here are pretty much armed to the teeth. Now. Come on terrorists. Attack. If ISIS attacked here the police better get the hell out of the way because the citizens would be hell bent to turn them into hamburger. Partisan politics flys out the window when people really feel threatened by an outside force. Heck. Getting attacked might be a good thing. The thing is the love fest would end after there is no threat. It would be business as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Well, Dick stands to make millions of more dollars if we can get into another failed occupation........Haliburton is the gift that keeps on giving to him!
    The guy is pretty much a walking corpse kept alive by medical technology. But they seem to be obsessed by greed. You would think being so close to death they would humble themselves but nope. They have greed disease and they will take it to the grave. It's the kind of people they are. Greed junkies. They never can have enough.

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