Are we seriously never getting a 2008 DVD?

[FORD]

I think Van Halen needs to do what the Stones did and release their archives on line. Only they need to release the REAL files in the US and not force us to download from pirate sites like the Stones did by limiting US downloads to shitty MP3 files.

http://www.stonesarchive.com/bootlegs/

[DONNIEP]

I think Van Halen needs to do what the Stones did and release their archives on line.

Online is fine, so long as they release it on DVD too. You gotta keep in mind that a hell of a lot of 40 year old + fans don't wanna sit in front of a computer OR screw around with logging in on their TVs to watch this stuff. They want to pull it out, stick it in, and enjoy it. So they need to put it out on DVD.

I know a lot of people think maybe some day Wolfie will "cash in" and release the stuff. Who the fuck is he gonna release it to? All the original fans will pretty much be old as hell or dead. Maybe he'll release it to the younger generation that bought the living hell out of the last record. Because the younger kids bought the record in, well, record numbers. Right?

IF they put out a DVD/CD box set, it would sell. It wouldn't be in the multi millions, but it doesn't cost millions to slap it together these days. Plus, since they OWN all this great footage and it's just sitting around in 5150, they wouldn't have to pay anybody but a handful of people to compile and edit it and the company to crank out the discs. Of course, that's assuming they OWN all this great footage and weren't just living life and having a hell of a time. Before they turned 30. Because back in the early 80s everybody secured rights to the footage, right?

[Kristy]

You snd my 14 year old son must be the minority... took him im to see =VH= in 2012 he loved it.. he listens to Halestorm , Avenge Sevenfold. =VH=. Pink Floyd he loves classic rock. Couldnt ask for a better kid...

Can he get cure cancer? Help old ladies across the street? Write fantastic poetry?

[Nitro Express]

Most of the bands who are considered 'legendary' or who have outlived the era they emerged in did serious work on their own mythology - they had fucking journalists, filmmakers, photographers, etc etc catalogue their every doing (The Stones being the prime example - every tour from 69 was filmed for cinematic releases, although not all made it to the cinema; 'embedded' writers on tour, etc).

VH never really went in for the self-mythologising, and it is why they suffer in the public imagination. You know, aside from people like us, most fans of rock music probably do not think they were one of the great bands. By not releasing retrospectives or box sets they do their legacy immense harm. They need to let someone do a dirt-dishing book, as well. If the backstage was so excessive and so legendary, then why not let us in on it? I mean, who will get hurt now.

Look at those two Best Of compilations - absolutely shoddily thrown together with garbage art work, stock photographic images. An egg balancing on the horn of a guitar, anyone - please (Balance)... what kid is going to buy into that?

Rock bands need their myths, or they won't be remembered. But VH live in denial of their past - or some of them do.

It is just so fucking disappointing.

I've watched and read enough interviews with Alex and Eddie where it's pretty apparent they despise being called rockstars. They consider themselves musicians. They hate the whole rockstar thing actually and they think merchandising and marketing the band is dumb and below themselves. I wish they thought a little more like Gene Simmons. Give the fans what they want and charge them. Alex and Eddie are musicians and nope we ain't rockstars and you don't own us. You bought your ticket and we played. Now buzz off! That's kind of how the Van Halens are.

[FORD]

I've watched and read enough interviews with Alex and Eddie where it's pretty apparent they despise being called rockstars. They consider themselves musicians. They hate the whole rockstar thing actually and they think merchandising and marketing the band is dumb and below themselves. I wish they thought a little more like Gene Simmons. Give the fans what they want and charge them. Alex and Eddie are musicians and nope we ain't rockstars and you don't own us. You bought your ticket and we played. Now buzz off! That's kind of how the Van Halens are.

Yeah, but Alex is a musician with 4 ex wives. Those alimony payments have to be adding up.

[DONNIEP]

To quote Alex Van Halen...."Alimony, alimony, alimony, alimony..."

[Nitro Express]

To quote Alex Van Halen...."Alimony, alimony, alimony, alimony..."

That's what's going down on the inside. Say you are a musician on the outside.

[ThatArtGuy]

That's a Billy Idol cover isn't it?

[Nitro Express]

That's a Billy Idol cover isn't it?

Naw. It's some song written by a faggot in capri shorts.

[Romeo Delight]

At THIS point Van Halen IS a nostalgia band. And that's what it is. .

I don't think so. When I tee up ADKOT, there are songs there I put up with alot of the six pack. You men to tell me As Is isn't a great song? we are all better for it being released...so in my books they are not a nostolgia act quite yet. Lots of viable material on the last album...

[mh5150]

Can he get cure cancer? Help old ladies across the street? Write fantastic poetry?

Not yet
Yes
No

[DLR Bridge]

I don't think so. When I tee up ADKOT, there are songs there I put up with alot of the six pack. You men to tell me As Is isn't a great song? we are all better for it being released...so in my books they are not a nostolgia act quite yet. Lots of viable material on the last album...

True enough with regards to recording, but I consider them a nostalgia act based on their last tour's set list. On any given night, there were no more than three new songs from ADKOT played. The balance of the show consisted of songs that were no younger than 28 years old.

I am, however, hoping for another batch of "viable material".

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I've never understood the rationale, such as the one Bette suggested, that simply because many of the songs on ADKOT were ones that VH worked on back in the day, but never got onto any of the six pack, that they should be looked upon negatively now that the band actually put them on an album. I believe Bette used the term "originality".....

Let's just ignore the fact that Bette used the word "originality". That's an entire hysterical thread in itself....

Is there a statute of limitations when it comes to songwriting? Did I miss the memo on that?

Regardless of the age of the song(s), the vast majority of those re-works sounded damn good to me. Who gives a fuck that VH worked on them previously?

Those unoriginal re-works sounded better than 99% of the songs that "rock bands" have been making in the last 20 years.....

[ZahZoo]

True enough with regards to recording, but I consider them a nostalgia act based on their last tour's set list. On any given night, there were no more than three new songs from ADKOT played. The balance of the show consisted of songs that were no younger than 28 years old.

I am, however, hoping for another batch of "viable material".

I guess it's a unique situation... that 28 year window is filled with songs most of us would be perfectly content going to our graves having never heard them again. Plus, at present, the band isn't interested in performing any of that material...

Other than Drop Dead Legs and a couple of other oddball songs... I don't know what else VH can add to a live show but ADKOT material.

Maybe Mustang Sally and In the Midnight Hour are a consideration...

[DONNIEP]

Other than Drop Dead Legs and a couple of other oddball songs... I don't know what else VH can add to a live show but ADKOT material.

Maybe Mustang Sally and In the Midnight Hour are a consideration...

Love Train and that Happy song, or whatever it's called.