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    Heh, and that shit is way better than any Schepply recording.

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    The song actually sounds a little bit like "Ramble On" actually. Without all the Tolkeinish lyrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Two words: Larry Carlton


    Even Slash sucks his dick. If it wasn't for Larry, The "Dan" would be absolute shit
    Slash is overrated. I don't think he's any better than Dave Navarro who also sucks. What both were good at was developing a visual identity. Slash had the Top hat and Dave had his freaky deekyness. None were anything special or unique as musicians.
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    Dave Navarro. Totally overrated and sucks as bad as Slash does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    What, no Skunk Baxter?
    Basically a studio musician. If you want to make a living doing movie and television soundtracks, give Skunk a call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Dave Navarro. Totally overrated and sucks as bad as Slash does.
    Navarro was good with Jane's Addiction, but the album the Chili Peppers did with him was awful. Just not a good mix there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Another Sucky Dan outcast... and the one who brought Mushmouth into the Doobie Brothers. And if that wasn't bad enough, he became a right wing "defense" contractor wackjob when his musical career faded away.
    Hired by Pentagon brass to be an imagineer of war like how Disney hires imagineers to bring forth new ideas to keep the Disney image from getting stale. Skunk and his employers are the types who can't see the forest through the trees. The real enemy is at the top of the pyramid they exist in, not the goat herders and peasants they stay awake at night figuring out how to kill with the best weaponry the propeller heads at MIT and Cal Tech and come up with.

    Exploit the nerds and exploits the failed rock stars I say. The perfect blend of intelligence and stupidity. Maybe Ted Templeman should be brought in to lead things. Everything seems to go to shit without him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Dave Navarro. Totally overrated and sucks as bad as Slash does.
    Navarro parlayed a little musical talent into a hosting gig on a reality show where he shows even less talent...
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Navarro parlayed a little musical talent into a hosting gig on a reality show where he shows even less talent...
    Dave is qualified to be president now. He has created a fake image and has experience on television. Dave's biggest accomplishment is not only screwing Carmen Electra but managing to get her to marry him. Lucky son of a bitch. I hate him!
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    Are you guys telling me you don't like Jane's Addiction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Another Sucky Dan outcast... and the one who brought Mushmouth into the Doobie Brothers. And if that wasn't bad enough, he became a right wing "defense" contractor wackjob when his musical career faded away.
    Dude, you're obsessed with politics. I don't give a fuck if a musician is black, white, conservative, liberal, gay or straight. If I like their music, I like their music. I don't have to like them or whatever they do when they're not playing music. There's more to life than politics.

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    Yeah, I'm with Binnie on this one. As much of a tool bag as Navarro may be, I loved his playing on the three main Jane's A CDs. After Ritual though, I've got little interest in him. Some of the newer Jane's A is pretty good, but primarily because of Perry and Perkins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Are you guys telling me you don't like Jane's Addiction?
    No because Jane's Addiction is a composition. Dave Navarro was just one element in it. It's like Eddie Van Halen was great when he was on the classic Van Halen team. That was a great composition. Ed sucked when he had all the creative control. Listen to "How Many Say I" if you don't believe me.

    Jane's Addiction was a nice journey into madness. Kind of like Nirvana. Nothing like a bunch of fuck ups spewing their madness in creative ways that are actually enjoyable to witness. Something unique there.

    Dave on his own is ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Dude, you're obsessed with politics. I don't give a fuck if a musician is black, white, conservative, liberal, gay or straight. If I like their music, I like their music. I don't have to like them or whatever they do when they're not playing music. There's more to life than politics.
    If people were in Skunk's shoes and were offered his defense gig they all would take it. Anyone who says otherwise is a lying mother fucker. Clearly someone wanted consultation from somebody who came from left field instead of the traditional kiss ass academic route. I would give the person who hired Skunk an all day sucker for thinking differently. LOL!

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    Two more for my overrated listed: the beatles & CS&N/CSN&Y

    As far as the beatles go, yeah they we're groundbreaking, yeah they were influential, yeah they have some good tunes. I just find 90% of their stuff uninteresting. Bump that 90% up to about 98% and that's how I feel about CS&N/CSN&Y. And bump solo McCartney up to 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Santana wrote one great song and then called it different names and played it over and over. Hear one Santana song, you've heard them all.
    Yes and no. I'm not a big fan either but Santana has a little more variety than that. You can't say "Winning" sounds like "Black Magic Woman" or "Oye Como Va".

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    The Beatles were never overrated. Lennon & Co. knew how to write pop songs until they grew tried of the formula they created. Even they grew tired of the image that was the Beatles. If anything, The Beatles are over marketed.


    That fucking logo is everywhere to the point where it has become another corporate whore like Coka-A-Rotten-Cola. I've seen it slapped on just anything from t-shirts to coffee mugs. I can't blame Lennon & Co. for this as much as I can EMI (speaking of corporate whores) who retains the rights to all Beatles images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Some of the newer Jane's A is pretty good, but primarily because of Perry and Perkins.
    That lead singer is a complete loony tune. I read a interviews in some magazine, some time in somewhere where he stated he was living in some really shitty apartment in downtown L.A. He spoke of a roommate who kept on eating his food to the point where Perry instead of confronting the roommate directly claimed to have masturbated all over his roommates food and never told him about it.

    They always sucked. Except, maybe, 'Pigs In Zen.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Yes and no. I'm not a big fan either but Santana has a little more variety than that. You can't say "Winning" sounds like "Black Magic Woman" or "Oye Como Va".
    That's because "Winning" sounded like fucking Journey.

    Which is ironic because the other two songs actually had members of Journey playing on them.

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    Santana did once do a beautiful instrumental called 'Aqua Marine' which sounded a like lot poppy jazz crossover Pat Metheny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    They always sucked. Except, maybe, 'Pigs In Zen.'
    And about 25 other songs.

    I don't know about that particular Perry story of yours. It may be a load of shit. But I've got no problem with a singer being a loony tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    No because Jane's Addiction is a composition. Dave Navarro was just one element in it. It's like Eddie Van Halen was great when he was on the classic Van Halen team. That was a great composition. Ed sucked when he had all the creative control. Listen to "How Many Say I" if you don't believe me.

    Jane's Addiction was a nice journey into madness. Kind of like Nirvana. Nothing like a bunch of fuck ups spewing their madness in creative ways that are actually enjoyable to witness. Something unique there.

    Dave on his own is ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.
    A fair assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckjitsu View Post
    Two more for my overrated listed: the beatles & CS&N/CSN&Y

    As far as the beatles go, yeah they we're groundbreaking, yeah they were influential, yeah they have some good tunes. I just find 90% of their stuff uninteresting. Bump that 90% up to about 98% and that's how I feel about CS&N/CSN&Y. And bump solo McCartney up to 100%
    Ringo and George had better solo music than Paul or John IMO. I have no use whatsoever for C,S,N or Y or any combination of C, S, N or Y.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    That's because "Winning" sounded like fucking Journey.

    Which is ironic because the other two songs actually had members of Journey playing on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Ringo and George had better solo music than Paul or John IMO. I have no use whatsoever for C,S,N or Y or any combination of C, S, N or Y.
    I dunno...I like a lot of McCartney's solo stuff. Most of Harrison's. Admittedly haven't listened to much of Lennon's. I remember my mom buying Double Fantasy but not sure if she was a big Beatles fan.

    We had an 8 track of "Ringo" and played the shit out of that thing. Oh My My, indeed.

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    One of the members of Santana had a daughter who graduated from the same elementary school I did in East L A in 1972. He played a couple Santana songs at our graduation celebration. I had his autograph for years but I lost it a long time ago. It wasn't Carlos Santana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    A fair assessment.
    It's art. We shouldn't think too much about it. If you have to think too much about whether it's good or not it's not good. Good art should make your big toe shoot up in your boot before your mind has time to think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Yeah, I'm with Binnie on this one. As much of a tool bag as Navarro may be, I loved his playing on the three main Jane's A CDs. After Ritual though, I've got little interest in him. Some of the newer Jane's A is pretty good, but primarily because of Perry and Perkins.
    I dunno, there's some great guitar work on 'Strays' (2003). Patchy record, but when it's good it's really good.

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    I'd add a bunch of bands as overrated but I can't say they were overplayed because I rarely heard any of their music. Oasis and The Lemonheads come to mind. If they're so damn good how come you never hear any of their music?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    I've already talked to Jesus about it. He hates them as much as I do.

    Musically speaking of course.... Jesus doesn't hate them as human beings, because He can't hate anybody.
    Even Jesus probably hates Steely Dan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Even Jesus probably hates Steely Dan...
    Let Me put it this way.......

    If ye manage to make it to Heaven, do not even think of bringing their albums in with you!

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    I didn't mind Oasis. Didn't care for "the next Beatles" comparison, but some of the songs were okay.

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    U2
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    All utter rubbish elevator music !!

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    As much as I like Led Zeppelin, I didn't really become a fan until I was like 30, because they were so MOTHERFUCKING OVERPLAYED!! The local stations here like 97 Rock were nothing but Led Zeppelin tribute stations growing up, so it wasn't until later that I realized these guys could bring it live, no matter how stoned or drunk they were and pulled the plug at the right time. But goddamn was it a Led Zeppelin song every hour on the hour when I was in school. Even the shit closed-circuit feed "news" thing they did at the beginning of Homeroom had the Immigrant Song as it's lead everyday for like three years...

    "Hammer of the gods", right into my fucking skull indeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    As much as I like Led Zeppelin, I didn't really become a fan until I was like 30, because they were so MOTHERFUCKING OVERPLAYED!!
    I got into Zep before that but I will agree they were overplayed after Bonham died. Some of the stations that have Get The Led out and such keep the Led out a bit too long IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    I dunno, there's some great guitar work on 'Strays' (2003). Patchy record, but when it's good it's really good.
    The song "Strays" came up in my Pandora this AM. Great tune. I may just have to give that CD another shot. I just remember it not having the magic of old.

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    Brian Ferry: what a boring cunt. What a fucking pompous poseur. Bathtub singer, at best.


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    Over-rated and over-played : BOSTON . Dare I say more ?
    I completely hate this scam of a " band " The mere mention of their name or existence turns my stomach . It hurt my fingers just to lower myself to type their name . I truly can't tell where one Boston song ends and where another begins . It all sounds like one continuous tedious song . They put out what , maybe 4 to 5 albums in nearly 40 years of existence ? Anymore , whenever I hear them on the radio I just can't help but laugh at the ridiculousness of their over saturation on the airwaves . Classic rock stations just can't live without this band , I truly think they would go into convulsions if they didn't play them at least once every two hours .

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