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    Terror In The Great White North!

    OTTAWA, Ontario (AP) — A Canadian soldier standing guard at a war memorial in the country's capital was shot to death Wednesday, and gunfire then erupted inside Parliament, authorities said. One gunman was killed, and police said they were searching for as many as two others.
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    People fled Parliament by scrambling down scaffolding erected for renovations, while others took cover inside as police with rifles and body armor took up positions outside and blocked the normally bustling streets around the building.

    Witnesses said the soldier was gunned down by a man dressed all in black with a scarf over his face. They said the gunman then entered Parliament, where dozens of shots rang out.

    Ottawa police spokesman Chuck Benoit said two or three gunmen were believed to be involved in the attack. Gilles Michaud, assistant commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, called it a "dynamic, unfolding situation."

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    Eh, Canada.
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    Wonder if it was just your typical, garden variety crazie or....an ISIL sympathizer? Bedroom Radical?

    I didn't think they had guns in Canada.
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    No one knows. One of the gunmen was killed by the Sergeant At Arms, one or two more MAY have fled...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    No one knows. One of the gunmen was killed by the Sergeant At Arms, one or two more MAY have fled...
    Yeah, I heard that too. Which is just perfect fodder for the Conspiracsists - "They said there were three gunmen but then they changed it!! See! It's proof it was the CIA!" I give it 12 hours before the first Crisis Actors Revealed In Canadian Shooting video shows up on youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Wonder if it was just your typical, garden variety crazie or....an ISIL sympathizer? Bedroom Radical?

    I didn't think they had guns in Canada.
    Just because we have gun control, doesn't mean we don't have guns. Of course, this is a long gun...for which the current government got rid of the registry. I'm guessing it is going to be homegrown terrorist. There was one killed in Montreal the other day after he ran over a soldier...

    Of course, the two may not be related whatsoever. Crazy shit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Yeah, I heard that too. Which is just perfect fodder for the Conspiracsists - "They said there were three gunmen but then they changed it!! See! It's proof it was the CIA!" I give it 12 hours before the first Crisis Actors Revealed In Canadian Shooting video shows up on youtube.
    Nah....Black Flag Operation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I give it 12 hours before ELVIS returns to post the first Crisis Actors Revealed In Canadian Shooting video he found on youtube.
    Fixed again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Just because we have gun control, doesn't mean we don't have guns. Of course, this is a long gun...for which the current government got rid of the registry.
    Do you have to pass a background check for a long gun up there? Serious question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Yeah, I heard that too. Which is just perfect fodder for the Conspiracsists - "They said there were three gunmen but then they changed it!! See! It's proof it was the CIA!" I give it 12 hours before the first Crisis Actors Revealed In Canadian Shooting video shows up on youtube.
    It's Harper. He paid some goons to make some terrorist attacks so he eventually can declare marshal law and become dictator of Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    It's Harper. He paid some goons to make some terrorist attacks so he eventually can declare marshal law and become dictator of Canada.
    Well, they don't call him "Little Stevie Wonderbush" for no reason......
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Do you have to pass a background check for a long gun up there? Serious question.


    I have one Canadian made Enfield. A British rifle, made by Canadians on American machinery because nobody wanted to be speaking German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Yeah, I heard that too. Which is just perfect fodder for the Conspiracsists - "They said there were three gunmen but then they changed it!! See! It's proof it was the CIA!" I give it 12 hours before the first Crisis Actors Revealed In Canadian Shooting video shows up on youtube.
    Here are the current headlines at Alex Jones' Infowhores.com...


    Drivers Subjected to Mandatory Vehicle Searches Following Canadian Shooting

    Canadian PM Draws Fire For Reportedly Drinking Wine During Ottawa Shooting Briefing

    Weird “Government” Website Predicts Total Collapse of America by 2025

    CIA Analyst: Canadian Shooting May Be ISIS or Al-Qaeda

    Flashback: RCMP Staged False Flag Violence to Frame Canadians

    Censorship: RCMP Asks Public Not to Post Photos, Videos of Ottawa Shooting


    So yeah, they're already anticipating a false flag crisis actor "NWO Zionist Synagogue of Me" conspiracy being behind this......

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    No water boarding needed. Just tape their eyes open and force them to watch The Red and Green show. They will totally crack in short order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Here are the current headlines at Alex Jones' Infowhores.com...


    Drivers Subjected to Mandatory Vehicle Searches Following Canadian Shooting

    Canadian PM Draws Fire For Reportedly Drinking Wine During Ottawa Shooting Briefing

    Weird “Government” Website Predicts Total Collapse of America by 2025

    CIA Analyst: Canadian Shooting May Be ISIS or Al-Qaeda

    Flashback: RCMP Staged False Flag Violence to Frame Canadians

    Censorship: RCMP Asks Public Not to Post Photos, Videos of Ottawa Shooting


    So yeah, they're already anticipating a false flag crisis actor "NWO Zionist Synagogue of Me" conspiracy being behind this......
    Look, I love a good conspiracy theory. Really. But some of the shit out there is just fucking retarded. A buddy of mine sends me links to these guys who post youtube videos breaking down the beheadings and how they're totally fake. I'd pay 10,000 dollars to take one of those idiots to Dirtville and see him get one of these "fake" beheadings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    No water boarding needed. Just tape their eyes open and force them to watch The Red and Green show. They will totally crack in short order.
    What's wrong with Red Green??



    see, they have rednecks in Canada too.

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    Deadmau5 is also from Canada. You can get highly baked and quite enjoy them...er, him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Do you have to pass a background check for a long gun up there? Serious question.
    Yes. Criminal record checks required for all guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    No water boarding needed. Just tape their eyes open and force them to watch The Red and Green show. They will totally crack in short order.
    It's not Red & Green. It's Red Green. That's the characters name...and it is probably the dumbest shit to ever hit the tv screens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Yes. Criminal record checks required for all guns.
    Ah, then it's the same as it is here. Well, at least in my state. We have to pass a background check for long guns too. Which doesn't bother me one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    It's Harper. He paid some goons to make some terrorist attacks so he eventually can declare marshal law and become dictator of Canada.
    Well, that would give him reason not to call an election next fall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    It's not Red & Green. It's Red Green. That's the characters name...and it is probably the dumbest shit to ever hit the tv screens.
    No, that would be 'The Walking Dead'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    What's wrong with Red Green??



    see, they have rednecks in Canada too.
    Some of the biggest rednecks I have ever met were from Alberta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Ah, then it's the same as it is here. Well, at least in my state. We have to pass a background check for long guns too. Which doesn't bother me one bit.
    Here's the Wiki version of gun licensing here:

    Individuals who wish to possess or acquire firearms in Canada must have a valid possession-acquisition, or possession-only, licence (PAL/POL); either of these licences allows the licensee to purchase ammunition. The PAL is distributed exclusively by the RCMP and is generally obtained in the following three steps:

    Safety training: To be eligible to receive a PAL, all applicants must successfully complete the Canadian Firearms Safety Course[13] (CFSC) for a non-restricted licence, and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course[14] (CRFSC) for a restricted licence; the non-restricted class is a prerequisite to the restricted licence. The RCMP publishes information on the locations and availability of these courses.[15]
    Applying for a licence: Currently only one type of licence is available to new applicants, the possession-acquisition licence (PAL). People can request a PAL by filling out Form CAFC 921.[16]
    Security screening: Background checks and investigations are performed. All applicants are screened, and a mandatory 28-day waiting period is imposed on first-time applicants, but response time may be longer.[17]

    Licences are typically valid for five years and must be renewed prior to expiry to maintain all classes. Once licensed, an individual can apply for a firearm transfer;[18] and an authorization to transport (ATT) for restricted firearms.[19] People may hunt with firearms in Canada only with non-restricted firearms, and this requires an additional "Hunting with Firearms" course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Well, that would give him reason not to call an election next fall...
    Get ready for the airport feel up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Some of the biggest rednecks I have ever met were from Alberta.
    Oh yeah...Alberta is extremely redneck. All 3 prairie provinces are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Here's the Wiki version of gun licensing here:

    Individuals who wish to possess or acquire firearms in Canada must have a valid possession-acquisition, or possession-only, licence (PAL/POL); either of these licences allows the licensee to purchase ammunition. The PAL is distributed exclusively by the RCMP and is generally obtained in the following three steps:

    Safety training: To be eligible to receive a PAL, all applicants must successfully complete the Canadian Firearms Safety Course[13] (CFSC) for a non-restricted licence, and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course[14] (CRFSC) for a restricted licence; the non-restricted class is a prerequisite to the restricted licence. The RCMP publishes information on the locations and availability of these courses.[15]
    Applying for a licence: Currently only one type of licence is available to new applicants, the possession-acquisition licence (PAL). People can request a PAL by filling out Form CAFC 921.[16]
    Security screening: Background checks and investigations are performed. All applicants are screened, and a mandatory 28-day waiting period is imposed on first-time applicants, but response time may be longer.[17]

    Licences are typically valid for five years and must be renewed prior to expiry to maintain all classes. Once licensed, an individual can apply for a firearm transfer;[18] and an authorization to transport (ATT) for restricted firearms.[19] People may hunt with firearms in Canada only with non-restricted firearms, and this requires an additional "Hunting with Firearms" course.
    Doesn't sound too onerous to me. The only part I don't like is that the "license" expires. Seems like a pain in the ass. Oh, and the whole can't buy ammo without a license thing. I do like the Firearms Safety Course idea. I think ALL first time gun buyers should have to take a class like that. We have too many people down here buying guns that have absolutely no idea how to safely handle one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Wonder if it was just your typical, garden variety crazie or....an ISIL sympathizer? Bedroom Radical?

    I didn't think they had guns in Canada.

    They do. Some douchbag kid killed two RCMP officers with an M-14 "battle rifle" not long ago...

    Up until recently, the Canadian military actually made better versions of our Colt M-16 series, with full auto selective fire rather than the shit 3-round burst thing...
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    Some NHL hockey games in U.S. cities will be singing the Canadian National Anthem, "Oh, Canada!" tonight. It's sang at ALL Buffalo Sabres games BTW...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Here are the current headlines at Alex Jones' Infowhores.com...


    Drivers Subjected to Mandatory Vehicle Searches Following Canadian Shooting

    Canadian PM Draws Fire For Reportedly Drinking Wine During Ottawa Shooting Briefing

    Weird “Government” Website Predicts Total Collapse of America by 2025

    CIA Analyst: Canadian Shooting May Be ISIS or Al-Qaeda

    Flashback: RCMP Staged False Flag Violence to Frame Canadians

    Censorship: RCMP Asks Public Not to Post Photos, Videos of Ottawa Shooting


    So yeah, they're already anticipating a false flag crisis actor "NWO Zionist Synagogue of Me" conspiracy being behind this......
    That F A T fuck is really losing his touch. Jone$ is citing "credible" news sources such as...
    "The “new face of terror,” as identified by Fox contributor Charles Krauthammer, will be exploited by the state to make arguments in favor of NSA surveillance and military escalation in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East."

    Fuck him and his endless barrage of self-serving paranoia. That xenophobic AND racist F A T fuck really needs ot have his ass kicked by all the white trash simpletons he exploits for his own bank account.

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    What's wrong with Red Green??

    see, they have rednecks in Canada too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post

    They do. Some douchbag kid killed two RCMP officers with an M-14 "battle rifle" not long ago...

    Up until recently, the Canadian military actually made better versions of our Colt M-16 series, with full auto selective fire rather than the shit 3-round burst thing...
    The three round burst seemed to be an excuse to make up for a lack of training. It makes the trigger group quite a bit more complicated increasing the probability of a malfunction. Yeah the only time you are going to switch to full auto is if your position is being overran and frankly I would want more than three rounds coming out in a desperate situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Doesn't sound too onerous to me. The only part I don't like is that the "license" expires. Seems like a pain in the ass. Oh, and the whole can't buy ammo without a license thing. I do like the Firearms Safety Course idea. I think ALL first time gun buyers should have to take a class like that. We have too many people down here buying guns that have absolutely no idea how to safely handle one.
    It's a trust issue. I think most people think having a firearm training course required to purchase a firearm is a good idea. I think if you are going to own a firearm for defense you need more training than just the basic range/target training. The thing is there is enough anti-gun opposition that wants to take the right to own a firearm away and the other side is against giving any excuse or anything that can allow their wedge in. Why? Because of a lack of trust or compromise. It's going to remain a polarized issue so it's going to be your personal responsibility to get the needed training yourself and if you want to be stupid, well have an accident. There. You have the freedom to be an idiot with no babysitter. Be an idiot and pay the price. Freedom is not for idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Doesn't sound too onerous to me. The only part I don't like is that the "license" expires. Seems like a pain in the ass. Oh, and the whole can't buy ammo without a license thing. I do like the Firearms Safety Course idea. I think ALL first time gun buyers should have to take a class like that. We have too many people down here buying guns that have absolutely no idea how to safely handle one.
    In Michigan, you have to take a class, go through an FBI background check, and renew your license every 5 years, in order to carry concealed. In my County, you have to go in front of a 4 panel board for final approval.

    In order to legally own a gun, you have to go through a background check at the time of purchase, every time you purchase, unless you have a valid CPL. If you have a valid CPL, you don't have to go through the background check.

    Of course, this is all predicated on LEGALLY purchasing. My guns are registered with my local police department, and all rules have been followed. If anything ever happens with one of my guns, whether I am involved or not, I want the police to be able to track these things as best as they can.

    Drunk drivers are probably doing just as much damage with their 4000 pound weapons known as vehicles, as the people committing crimes with illegally obtained guns. In fact, drivers in general. The way people drive these days, is insane. YTD we have had 708 fatalities on our roads, here in Michigan. Every day when I hit the road, I am much more worried about somebody killing me with their car, than I am a firearm.
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    So Von, no gun show loopholes in your state either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    So Von, no gun show loopholes in your state either?
    Much to the chagrin of idiots like Sesh, no.

    The only loophole is to purchase ILLEGALLY, thus committing a FELONY.

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    http://archive.freep.com/article/201...ks-in-Michigan


    Brian Dickerson: More people die from guns than car accidents in Michigan


    Michigan is one of 10 states in which gun deaths now outpace motor vehicle deaths, according to a study released Thursday by the Washington, D.C.-based Violence Policy Center.

    But don’t expect the from-my-cold-dead-hands crowd to embrace the center’s conclusion that the disparity has everything to do with federal regulation — extensive and wildly successful in the case of motor vehicles, and virtually non-existent in the case of firearms.

    “The idea that gun deaths exceed motor vehicle deaths in 10 states is stunning when one considers that 90% of American households own a car, while fewer than a third own firearms,” VPC Legislative Director Kristen Rand said. “It is time to end firearms’ status as the last unregulated consumer product.”

    Rand said her group’s state-by-state analysis compared gun and car deaths in 2009, the most recent year for which state-level data for both causes of death is available.
    Michigan reported 1,095 gun deaths that year — 10.98 per 100,000 residents — while recording only 977 deaths, or 9.8 per 100,000 residents, involving motor vehicles, including pedestrian accidents.

    Michigan exceeded the national per capita rate for guns (10.19 per 100,000 residents), but it recorded fewer motor vehicle deaths than the 50-state average of 11.87 per 100,000.

    The other states in which gun deaths outstripped motor vehicle deaths were Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Virginia and Washington.

    “Motor vehicle deaths are on the decline as the result of a successful decades-long public health-based injury prevention strategy that includes safety-related changes to vehicles and highway design informed by comprehensive data collection and analysis,” a release accompanying the VPC study said. “Meanwhile, firearms are the only consumer product not regulated by the federal government for health and safety.”

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    http://www.michiganautolaw.com/blog/...nt-statistics/

    Around a third of driving deaths in Michigan are alcohol deaths in Michigan are alcohol related.

    2/3rds only involve one vehicle.

    If we assume 1000 deaths from each cause cars and guns, only 300 are from drink driving.

    Of those only 100 are with more than one vehicle. If we assume half the time the victim in a two car is in the drunk car that leaves just 50 'innocent' victims a year.

    So clearly you as a someone that doesn't drink drive should worry 20 times more about guns than drink driving...
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    I would bet money if you get the breakdown of the shootings in Michigan cited in that report, the majority are gang/drug related. Sure, you'll have a couple real tragedies mixed in too. But the majority are probably low life pieces of shit that we're better off without in the first place.

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