Was this decision made for you?Originally Posted by guwapo_rocker
Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.
Call it what you want... I just gave an honest opinion/assessment. The fact remains... while this specific show may not have been the best 2013 had to offer... It's the one stop when the band invested in recording shows that year. When I look at the overall wave a negativity being expressed over this Tokyo record... it's grown completely out of proportion to the criticism expressed when these shows occurred.
"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
Oh my God! TOO funny. And so original. Easy to see why you are a moderator here. I'm sorry, a SUPER moderator. That's gotta get you a shitload of puss.
I too recall the general concensus being that Dave was sounding better at the Japan shows than he did on the U.S. tour. I think the largest piece of fan disappointment is the fact that the band is only offering up an audio recording of a more recent show. Like many have said, if they gave the fans more of what they wanted and the live cd was a bonus disc, there'd be a whole lot less bitching about Dave no longer being Dave going on. It's their fault for not doing as much as they could, but it's our fault for having high expectations all of the time.
High expectations? How about an expectation of being somewhat close to being in range?
Van Halen isn't going to fill arena's with just diehard fans. They are going to need people to hear this, and say "Fuck yeah, I gotta go see that". No fucking way that will happen. Quite the opposite in fact. Just look at some of the diehard fans here that are already saying they won't pay to go see these guys perform like this, yet again.
As far as us saying they (Dave) sounded better in Japan, at that time, I think we must have had our VH ear muffs on. We were probably caught up in the moment. Now that time has passed, and we are subjected to this recording without having heard them in awhile, reality has reared its ugly head.
This really is the gist of it right here. It's actually the worst of both worlds (no Samburglar pun intended) in that I seriously doubt newer/casual VH fans are going to listen to that and then be pumped up to see VH and neither are the diehards. Lose/lose proposition. Throw in the ridiculous cost of tickets these days and...yeah.
That's a legitimate expectation, of course, but Dave's odd range choice is just one of the problems with this recording.
Geez...
Is there any listed cities yet or just rumors?
Strong rumors in cities....
Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth
I meant we only have ourselves to blame for thinking they'll deliver the goods some day. Of course we're not to blame.Geez...
Well, your mom is certainly impressed. She asked me to tell you to take down your Red Rocker poster off the wall!
Updated Van Halen tour date rumors, according to reports from contacts in these venues:
1. San Manuel Amphitheater, San Bernardino, CA, July 5th (otherwise known as the US Festival site)
2. Xfnity Theatre, Hartford, CT, late July
3. Molson Canadian Ampitheatre, Toronto, ON, July 26th
3. Darling's Waterfront Pavilion (my guess), Bangor, ME
4. Royal Farms Arena, Baltimore
5. Jiffy Lube Live, Bristow, VA, Aug. 29th
6. PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel, NJ, Sept. 4th
7. Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, Sept. (3 nights)
8. Ak-Chin Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ, Sept. 27th
Unconfirmed rumors...
Unconfirmed rumors...
Well of course they are, you don't publish something like a tour, silly.....
The Ak-Chin pavilion and Jiffy lube...
Not exactly an arena tour...
Weren't we just talking about this the other day? lolUnconfirmed rumors...
American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.
Every other normal band does...
Va doesn't get it...
The Ak-Chin pavilion and Jiffy lube...
Not exactly an arena tour...
Those ampitheaters seat more than an arena....
The only difference between this crap and Spinal Tap is Spinal Tap never released an album this bad...
Bullshit, I just looked up the two I mentioned...
No-one's gonna be there even if you're right...
My daughter is a fan of this young band called Five Seconds Of Summer. Young guys, write and play their own pop/rock stuff. We bought tickets for the Charlotte show back in December. The show is in September. Most groups these day pimp the shit out of their tours, even the ones that actually don't need to because they're pretty much gonna sell out anyway.
Seating for most amphitheaters is around 20,000....
But end-stage concerts in arena don't have the areas behind them, so their capacity for concerts is only around 18,000 tops....
There are exceptions, of course....
If MA is in the band, these threads will be nothing but farts in the desert...these shows will sell out without issue
Roth Army Canada
I'd think with downloading, Touring would be the only way they'd see any money......
Chainsaw Muthuafucka
I wonder how many tix they were selling on average for each show on the last tour - minus the Japanese shows. If I remember correctly, opening nite in Charlotte in '07 was sold out. And I wonder if the ticket brokers that buy up huge blocks of tickets to resale will do so for this upcoming tour?
I went to a bunch of shows. Even the smallest market in the Prairies of Canada was sold out
They'd be better off on a bill opening for Sabbath or someone like that...
But Edwad would never do it...
Dave neither...
Opening for Sabbath? Please. That is ridiculous.
If they were smart, and of course they're not, they'd bring in a younger group with some actual rock musicianship to get the younger crowd in there.....
You're never gonna get the young crowd into sixty year old men...
And for good reason...
What about Tremonti?
I think they'll get away with it by having a short tour.
Are there 16000 people in the whole of Canada that will take a punt on a Van Halen show on the back of a 2* live album and no promotion?
Probably.
Yeah, like maybe KC And The Sunshine Band. Or Tony Orlando And Dawn.
No it's not...
It's guaranteed ticket sales...
Van Halen was not headline material on the last tour...
It's ridiculous.
Drunk already ??
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