Former "Creed" frontman Scott Stapp threatens Obama's life

[ELVIS]

You're both afraid of anything resembling truth...

[Jesus Christ]

I **AM** the Truth.

Ye seem to have forgotten that, and would rather now bear false witness about My family.

[Seshmeister]

You're both afraid of anything resembling truth...

You have arrived a point where you have no ability to separate absolute nonsense from reality.

You've been given an insanely long lead here but I'm not tolerating anti semetic hate shit at a David Lee Roth site of all places.

I don't care if you want to try and make the incredibly stupid argument about whether a legendary character was one race or another but it is astoundingly dumb and only shows your pathetic prejudices. What I won't have is you using a site I own to post lies about the Holocaust. This is your final warning.

[TFM_Dale]

I find alot of what E posts funny in one way or another but come on E, the holocaust? Really? Not cool at all man.

[Seshmeister]

There is an inevitability to that shit. Part of the reason for keeping him around is to see how the whole conspiracy theorist mindset develops and destroys your ability to tell what is real and what isn't. By their nature reaching up the ladder of the conspiracy cult has many routes but it tends to go along the lines of if there is a hidden government/Illuminati running the world then it who is this Illuminati and that then quickly turns into an anti Jewish thing. For someone who wants to play at being Christian it then becomes important to try and separate the Christ character from being Jewish.

Which then in turn means spending time on anti-semetic sites which becomes holocaust denial which incidentally seem to revolve around false claims about how it wasn't millions only hundreds of thousands that were murdered like that would have been ok.

[kwame k]

Slow down there people........I'm still trying to figure how in the fuck Jesus wasn't a Jew living where he lived and with the parents he had.

So if he wasn't Jewish he was a Roman pagan multi-God worshiper

[Nickdfresh]

Maybe he's gay like you and hates wearing shirts...

Says the guy who managed to find a pic of a shirtless Creed and tells everyone how gay it is...

[FORD]

And if He wasn't Jewish, then why was His most famous dinner party a literal Passover Seder?

[Seshmeister]

Slow down there people........I'm still trying to figure how in the fuck Jesus wasn't a Jew living where he lived and with the parents he had.

So if he wasn't Jewish he was a Roman pagan multi-God worshiper

There is no way any of us is going to live long enough to make looking into this nonsense a reasonable use of our time.

[kwame k]

And if He wasn't Jewish, then why was His most famous dinner party a literal Passover Seder?

It defies all logic and if anyone else on the board was saying this, I'd think it was an epic troll!

So who wrote the old Testament? Was Moses and Abraham Protestant? God's chosen people were actually Baptists?

Now I see the logic on why Eisenhower made the Germans around the concentration camps tour them so they could never say the Holocaust didn't happen!

[DONNIEP]

God's chosen people were actually Baptists?

Southern Baptists, thank you.

[kwame k]

There is no way any of us is going to live long enough to make looking into this nonsense a reasonable use of our time.

The Disciples themselves struggled with whether or not to include Gentiles and whether they'd have to follow Jewish custom or not! It's in the fucking book

[Seshmeister]

Always one to score a cheap point but if you have people doing holocaust denial in the modern age with all the film, the vast amounts of proof, tens of thousands of witness statements, meticulous documentation by the Nazis and even now many living survivors, within 40 or 50 years later you had people denying it happened.

The gospels were written about 40 years after the story they tell...

[kwame k]

Southern Baptists, thank you.

So let's recap;

E-Jesus was a Lilly white southern Baptists who hated gays, blacks, Jews, Muslims, Liberals, puppies, children (post-fetus), the poor and liberated women.

Wow, I thought Jesus preached love and tolerance

[kwame k]

Always one to score a cheap point but if you have people doing holocaust denial in the modern age with all the film, the vast amounts of proof, tens of thousands of witness statements, meticulous documentation by the Nazis and even now many living survivors, within 40 or 50 years later you had people denying it happened.

The gospels were written about 40 years after the story they tell...

It's the old saying.......people will tend to believe anything if it reinforces their own irrational prejudices!

[Seshmeister]

You can use the Bible or Koran for anything you wish.

They are weapons, sometimes you can use a weapon to do good but on the whole?

[kwame k]

E has to be setting us up.......this has to be a troll!

[kwame k]

You can use the Bible or Koran for anything you wish.

They are weapons, sometimes you can use a weapon to do good but on the whole?

Both books that have the same root, too!

Lord, save me from your followers

[DONNIEP]

So let's recap;

E-Jesus was a Lilly white southern Baptists who hated gays, blacks, Jews, Muslims, Liberals, puppies, children (post-fetus), the poor and liberated women.

Wow, I thought Jesus preached love and tolerance

Hey now, set the doobage down for just a minute there. I don't espouse any of those things.

[Nickdfresh]

Always one to score a cheap point but if you have people doing holocaust denial in the modern age with all the film, the vast amounts of proof, tens of thousands of witness statements, meticulous documentation by the Nazis and even now many living survivors, within 40 or 50 years later you had people denying it happened.

The gospels were written about 40 years after the story they tell...

Probably 75%-90% of the people doing the denying don't really believe the shit they're saying to one extent or another...

They're just Neonazis putting up window-dressing...

[kwame k]

Hey now, set the doobage down for just a minute there. I don't espouse any of those things.

No shit, moron!

We believe in the one true Christ!

Jewish Barry Christ

[DONNIEP]

No shit, moron!

We believe in the one true Christ!

Jewish Barry Christ

Ok, I just wanted to be sure we were on the same page. Now kiss me, you sexy beast!

[kwame k]

Probably 75%-90% of the people doing the denying don't really believe the shit they're saying to one extent or another...

They're just Neonazis putting up window-dressing...

I'd go as far as to say Alex Jone$ doesn't believe half the shit he spews but it's the only way he can make a buck!

[kwame k]

Ok, I just wanted to be sure we were on the same page. Now kiss me, you sexy beast!

Jewish Barry Christ loves gays and says it's OK but alas, you're too butch for me fella

[Seshmeister]

Probably 75%-90% of the people doing the denying don't really believe the shit they're saying to one extent or another...

They're just Neonazis putting up window-dressing...

Who knows, people seem to be capable of amazing levels of self delusion.

We need a whole new subject in classes in schools given almost equal time with Math and English just called Information Studies or something which teaches kids how to check information sources, how to challenge arguments, how to test truth and weigh evidence scientifically.

What is more important in the modern world, knowing the date of the Battle of Gettysburg off by heart which is a click away on your phone or knowing where to go to for that information?

[Kristy]

I don't like it, and Fuck you!

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[FORD]

Jewish Barry Christ loves gays and says it's OK but alas, you're too butch for me fella

Of course Barry loves the gays. Who do you think bought most of the copies of the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack??

[DONNIEP]

Of course Barry loves the gays. Who do you think bought most of the copies of the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack??

Hell I had it on vinyl and I still got it on CD.

[Seshmeister]

Southern Baptists, thank you.

I heard that Southern Baptists banned sex standing up because they feared it would lead to dancing.

[FORD]

True story..... my missionary great-grandparents lived in a small town called Lynden which is just south of the Canadian border. There's a church on every other block in this town, and probably at least until some time in the 1990s, everything was closed on Sundays.

They literally had a law on the books that you could have bars, and you could have dance clubs, but the dance clubs could not serve alcohol, because anybody who combined the sin of drinking with the sin of dancing was obviously going to move on to that third sin of fornication!

[kwame k]

Of course Barry loves the gays. Who do you think bought most of the copies of the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack??

[kwame k]

True story..... my missionary great-grandparents lived in a small town called Lynden which is just south of the Canadian border. There's a church on every other block in this town, and probably at least until some time in the 1990s, everything was closed on Sundays.

They literally had a law on the books that you could have bars, and you could have dance clubs, but the dance clubs could not serve alcohol, because anybody who combined the sin of drinking with the sin of dancing was obviously going to move on to that third sin of fornication!

E-Jesus would approve!

[Seshmeister]

There is/was a law in Vegas where you can't have naked dancers in the same venue as alcohol. I don't understand the thinking behind this that you can have drunk guys looking at girls in underwear but only the guys on soft drinks get to look at naked girls especially when you take into account drugs and preloading.

Anyhoo around one of the times I was there a genius came up with the idea of buying two bars side by side and putting a glass wall in between them so that his drinking place could still see the strippers. From memory I think he was shut down pretty quickly, anyone remember this story?

[Kristy]

Keep up please , he wasnt jewish.
Seemingly this possible fictitious character may have had his religion made up. Its complicated , seemingly he might never have been in the beatles . I think you better ask E I might have lost what he was saying.

Don't care. Because when it comes to watches I know what I want from F A T Santa this year:


The Omega Speedmaster (aka. "Moonwatch") chronograph with leather strap. Retail @$3,600. I was looking at this over all the Victorinox one and this Omega just impressed the shit out of me.

[Seshmeister]

Three problems.

Too mannish.

Too expensive.

Too stupid a name, sounds like it will run fast...

[Seshmeister]

Or is it a present?

If so it seems too generous especially in a month where we got a donation already from a long time member.

[DONNIEP]

Don't care. Because when it comes to watches I know what I want from F A T Santa this year:


The Omega Speedmaster (aka. "Moonwatch") chronograph with leather strap. Retail @$3,600. I was looking at this over all the Victorinox one and this Omega just impressed the shit out of me.

You can pick up a vintage Moonie for under 2500 bucks. And yes they are bad ass.

[DONNIEP]

Sesh - we have that same law regarding totally nude strip joints. And San Diego did too, at least up until the late 90s. Don't know about now. But man does it suck to roll into one of those places only to find out you can't buy a drink.

[DONNIEP]

I heard that Southern Baptists banned sex standing up because they feared it would lead to dancing.

Southern Baptists don't drink, cuss, dance, or screw around. At least not when the preacher is around.

[kwame k]

There is/was a law in Vegas where you can't have naked dancers in the same venue as alcohol. I don't understand the thinking behind this that you can have drunk guys looking at girls in underwear but only the guys on soft drinks get to look at naked girls especially when you take into account drugs and preloading.

Anyhoo around one of the times I was there a genius came up with the idea of buying two bars side by side and putting a glass wall in between them so that his drinking place could still see the strippers. From memory I think he was shut down pretty quickly, anyone remember this story?

No........we Americans don't remember this because us Patriots believe what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas

Up until last year you couldn't do fully nude and serve alcohol here in Michigan! I've heard of it in several other states, too!