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    Yeah it was great - really clever too. I went off and watched the Breaking Bad episode called Better Call Saul(S02E08) to remind myself of some details, I had forgotten about Saul going to Walter's school and exactly how he had got out of the grave situation.





    The show runner has said Gene has plenty of money with the bag of diamonds and he breaks bad because of the call from the phone box(with Kim?)
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    They tied up so many loose ends in that phone call. The Walter and Jessie scene was perfectly done. I think the sneak preview at the end is gonna be the end...Saul is found dead..

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    I don't watch the trailers until after the show airs but I think they have been a bit tricksy with them so I wouldn't believe anything that looks like a big plot moment.

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    Alfred Hitchcock in a fez???

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    Three references to Frankenstein - Jessie called Igor, Saul says Mile walks like Frankenstein and Gene calls himself Victor when scamming...

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    Really hope Saul gets what he deserves now..Love that Kim told Howard's wife what they had done

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    Breaking Bad is still best show ever but the detail in the writing of BCS is amazing ...I didnt think twice about the 2 bodies found


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    In Breaking Bad the first episode of the second season was called Seven Thirty Seven. In Jesse's car, Walt calculates that he needs $737,000 to provide for his family’s future, factoring in medical bills, his children's tuition, mortgage, and other variables

    The balance on the bank statement Saul finds while the guy with cancer is asleep on the floor is $737 000...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    Breaking Bad is still best show ever but the detail in the writing of BCS is amazing ...I didnt think twice about the 2 bodies found

    There is understandably a bit of confusion going around about this but I think Walt killed a couple of people and those are the bodies found, Lalo and Howard were under a bunch of concrete. I think the show runner confirmed this in a podcast.

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    Saw Chuck several times in that montage. Does that mean he might be showing up in the finale. He's dead obviously... but there could always be a "flashback" to something we never actually saw on screen.... Or he might appear in some sort of ghost/hallucination form. Especially if things don't end well for Saul/Gene.... and by all appearances the last two episodes, I don't see how it CAN end well for him.
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    I have a feeling Kim does " Gene" in...even though she protected him that one last time

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    WARNING: MINOR SPOILERS if not very specific ones....

    It's a pretty satisfying ending for me with Jimmy accepting fate and taking responsibility and showing he wasn't just about the money and himself in the end and reaching out for a bit of redemption and reconciliation. All while still stoking his Saul ego and showing he still "had it". I wonder if he can still be a paralegal for Kim when he gets out....

    The best moment I missed on the first go around as I'm a bit blurred from booze, Saul/Jimmy calling Gene's Cinnabon and telling them they will need a new manager...
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    ..........Dont read below if havent watched..
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    Good ending..not what I was expecting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    86 years.........
    "Well, with good behavior"...

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    Funny how he can be a complete con man but really worry about his co-workers at the Cinnabon...Lalo shooting Howard really fucked things up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    Funny how he can be a complete con man but really worry about his co-workers at the Cinnabon...Lalo shooting Howard really fucked things up
    IDK not to psychoanalyze but Jimmy is the id Saul is the ego, and Gene/post-Saul Jimmy are sort of the superego? IDK

    He was definitely a conman but he also was a good brother (to an extent) until he found his brother was even more of a sociopath that he was. He loves Kim and is willing to sacrifice himself to save her. It's a redemption story. Saul was both horrible and good-and-decent to fluctuating degrees. He build Heisenberg's drug empire but he also saved to dumb skateboarder cons from being killed by Tuco when he could have walked away...

    And Howard is the unfortunate victim of the drive-by but he wasn't blameless either...
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    Managed to get through the 18 hours without spoilers.

    In many ways I think he would enjoy being in jail more than the life as a Cinnabon Manager.

    Out of the 3 ghosts the genius Walter White nails it with the 'You've always been like this' line.

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    I'll miss the whole ABQ universe but can't complain - we got 11 seasons and a movie.

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    Ill go back and watch it all again at some point..I do think that Saul would have remained Saul and got the 7 years had he not been told about Kim telling Howard's wife about their scheme. He realized he was fucked and just wanted to see Kim again. I was actually surprised that he came clean. I was expecting a more " shocking" ending with Kim killing him but was good to see he was actually sorry and he and Kim had their cig. I got the impression from the look back that she will never go back to see him.
    The " time machine " flashbacks were good..especially Mike's.

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    And bringing Marie back was brilliant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    And bringing Marie back was brilliant
    Annoyingly you couldn't tell if she was wearing purple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    Ill go back and watch it all again at some point..I do think that Saul would have remained Saul and got the 7 years had he not been told about Kim telling Howard's wife about their scheme. He realized he was fucked and just wanted to see Kim again. I was actually surprised that he came clean.
    I'm not sure about this, I think without his corroboration she was still safe from criminal prosecution. He used the threat of that to make sure she was in court to hear his confession which was genuine and he thought he should be punished more than the 7 years. I think. He's a new character at that point - post Gene - he's James McGill. Whether he stays as that or becomes Saul again in jail isn't clear but he is already being called Saul by the inmates.

    I'll need to watch it again.
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    Decent overview...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
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    Out of the 3 ghosts the genius Walter White nails it with the 'You've always been like this' line.
    Probably true. But White never applies any of that scrutiny to himself. Whereas Mike is somewhat reflective and contrite on the question saying he'd never have taken his first bribe; Walter still acts like a victim cunt that had his empire stolen from him and he wouldn't have been manipulated. But he did a lot of that by being stubborn and dumb. He LET them!!! He's evading the responsibility that both Mike and Jimmy ultimately admit, though Jimmy has to be beaten up a bit more...

    Having said that I guess maybe Walt ultimately admits in the close of Breaking Bad and sort of tries to makes things right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I'm not sure about this, I think without his corroboration she was still safe from criminal prosecution. He used the threat of that to make sure she was in court to hear his confession which was genuine and he thought he should be punished more than the 7 years. I think. He's a new character at that point - post Gene - he's James McGill. Whether he stays as that or becomes Saul again in jail isn't clear but he is already being called Saul by the inmates.

    I'll need to watch it again.
    When he got caught somebody wrote " My lawyer kicked your ass" or something to that effect on the cell wall..he went into Saul mode negotiating but when he tried to get the " Ice cream", he found out Howard was not a bargaining chip.I think thats when he decided to fess up.Even got Kim to show up to see it.

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    Is Blue Bunny Ice Cream even that good? I mean it's not like it's Ben & Jerry's.

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    The ice cream is a running theme...


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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Is Blue Bunny Ice Cream even that good? I mean it's not like it's Ben & Jerry's.
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