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    My biggest complaint is the sound overall isn't as multidimensional as it could have been. Similar to previous comments...not capturing the room dynamics.

    It has some gems for sure though. Not remembering lyrics for China Town after all these shows is so crazy.
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    It's unacceptably bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    It's unacceptably bad...
    Dave is for sure on at least 5 songs. And that's why I and others keep saying why this show ???!!!! I don't get it. A ballsy move sure. But a smart one ? Hardly. I enjoyed it. I will play it a few times a year out in the back yard because it's louder than my bootlegs and piss of the local cats, but I think it will be a forgettable live album in a few years. If not sooner ! A lot of diehards will love it because it is a pure live recording. But so what ! Only half of it is really good.
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    I was skipping over the first disk trying to see what I liked.

    Now that I have had a little patience and listen to the songs in full. I can say I am really happy with the offering as a whole.

    For example, in HAIL...in the beginning I thought Dave was off vocaly a bit and was dissapointed. But now after a full listen there are parts later in the song where I think he nailed it better than any performance I have heard. Overall its a great live version of the song.

    I really dont think you can critique a 2 hour concert by listening to 3 minutes here or there. Dave's vocal performances were never that exacting. Hard to all of a sudden hold him to a standard that never existed.

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    Well, I'll make myself a compilation of the acceptable stuff like I always do...

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    RD, I agree with all but your last paragraph. His live delivery was always exciting because he was giving you a different take on the studio recordings that A. worked and B. Fit in with his stage antics. He pulled off entertaining and singing like no other. Vocal range non-sense aside (should always be aside), I'd say he commanded the stage better than Mercury and still turned in an impressive vocal.

    I agree with your previous remark about how you shouldn't let a bad part to a song determine that the whole song is unlistenable. There are a million songs I only like parts of. No big 'ting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Well, I'll make myself a compilation of the acceptable stuff like I always do...
    That's the way too go. A better show wouldn't require that. But whatever. Maybe 2020 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Well, I'll make myself a compilation of the acceptable stuff like I always do...
    Could be worse...Who made the DLR comment??!! lmao

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    I swear if you can get through that Natl anthem without laughing..I owe you a beer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    I swear if you can get through that Natl anthem without laughing..I owe you a beer

    Hooo man. You sir, do NOT owe me a beer. I'm crying laugh tears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    Could be worse...Who made the DLR comment??!! lmao
    Good violinist later on though...
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    Yeah..keeps you watching while rooster dude is singing KC and the Sunshine Band...

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    There are more people on the field than in the crowd for the preshow, makes you wonder why they bother.

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    Ha I had forgotten about this one...


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    Quote Originally Posted by 78/84 guy View Post
    Dave is for sure on at least 5 songs. And that's why I and others keep saying why this show ???!!!! I don't get it. A ballsy move sure. But a smart one ? Hardly. I enjoyed it. I will play it a few times a year out in the back yard because it's louder than my bootlegs and piss of the local cats, but I think it will be a forgettable live album in a few years. If not sooner ! A lot of diehards will love it because it is a pure live recording. But so what ! Only half of it is really good.

    Not putting it down, but if they were going to do a live album, they should have done it in 2007, like when Dave sounded like Dave could (still impressed he pulled off Atomic Punk so well on that tour ! -What did he do to prepare and why can't he do that again ?). Ed was a bit off at times, but they should have recorded a handful and cherry picked.
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    They couldn't/wouldn't do that because they couldn't have any of the new tracks, Wolfgang was way too green, the backing vocals were piped in and Eddie was nowhere close to where he is now even on his better nights.

    It's like if you are going to choose a group photo from a bunch you are in, the first place you look is at yourself and you don't choose the one where you look goofy. If one of the other guys is blinking in the pic you look good in well that's his problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post

    For example, in HAIL...in the beginning I thought Dave was off vocaly a bit and was dissapointed. But now after a full listen there are parts later in the song where I think he nailed it better than any performance I have heard. Overall its a great live version of the song.
    Wow. Just fucking WOW.

    I have read some fucked up statements on this site, but this must be the most fucked up statement I've ever read. You sound like a fucking school girl sticking up for One Direction. You sound even worse than the Redheads did in '04.

    I can close my eyes, grab any fucking bootleg off the stack, and guaranfuckingtee it will have a better version of HAIL on it, than the one you are calling the greatest version ever. That's a fucking FACT!

    I'm really not sure who you're trying to convince, that this album is great. I'm thinking it must be yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Wow. Just fucking WOW.

    I have read some fucked up statements on this site, but this must be the most fucked up statement I've ever read. You sound like a fucking school girl sticking up for One Direction. You sound even worse than the Redheads did in '04.

    I can close my eyes, grab any fucking bootleg off the stack, and guaranfuckingtee it will have a better version of HAIL on it, than the one you are calling the greatest version ever. That's a fucking FACT!

    I'm really not sure who you're trying to convince, that this album is great. I'm thinking it must be yourself.
    I am glad you got your panties in a twist over it anyhoo...

    I really like it. I love the Oakland show like everyone else, but is that really Dave's best live performance of the song? If I listened to a dozen boots I would probably find one I liked better, but this version is not anywhere near as bad as you are saying.

    Btw, where exactly did I say "greatest version Ever" that would be nowhere in my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    I am glad you got your panties in a twist over it anyhoo...

    I really like it. I love the Oakland show like everyone else, but is that really Dave's best live performance of the song? If I listened to a dozen boots I would probably find one I liked better, but this version is not anywhere near as bad as you are saying.
    If you listen to a dozen boots, and only find one better than this one, you might want to go get your ears checked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    I am glad you got your panties in a twist over it anyhoo...

    I really like it. I love the Oakland show like everyone else, but is that really Dave's best live performance of the song? If I listened to a dozen boots I would probably find one I liked better, but this version is not anywhere near as bad as you are saying.

    Btw, where exactly did I say "greatest version Ever" that would be nowhere in my post.
    Well, you did say that you think he nailed it better than any other performance you've heard, but I was assuming you meant of all of the HAILs from this past tour. If that's the case, you may be right. His take on it the year it came out was great. I have the music stripped from the video and plugged into my I Tunes. I love that version start to finish, almost better than the album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    If you listen to a dozen boots, and only find one better than this one, you might want to go get your ears checked out.
    I dunno...maybe me liking it can be attributed to just having another great day blazing on the highway and was enjoying the new live Halen. I suppose I should trash it after listening to 3 songs, post nothing but negativity over the demise of Van Halen and how Mikey could save it all.

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    Ya know, Thursday is my day off. I usually go to Winn/Dickme and Publix, stock up on foodstuffs. Yet tomorrow, I'll also drive a little bit further to Barnes & Noble (Best Buy is like ten miles away, and Target never has anything) and buy the God-damned thing. Like Von, I may only listen to it once, yet what the fuck.

    The dingbats still could have given us a T-shirt, bumper sticker or a poster, instead of...Oh, gee wiz...the first and last albums as a bonus, fer twenty bucks extra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    I dunno...maybe me liking it can be attributed to just having another great day blazing on the highway and was enjoying the new live Halen. I suppose I should trash it after listening to 3 songs, post nothing but negativity over the demise of Van Halen and how Mikey could save it all.
    Who only listened to 3 songs?

    Why would Mike make any difference in the way Dave is butchering some of these songs? I have zero issues with the bass playing, or harmonies on this album.

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    Alright boys. Settle down. Save some anger for the clips of Jump being played live on Ellen tomorrow.

    Jump??

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Ya know, Thursday is my day off. I usually go to Winn/Dickme and Publix, stock up on foodstuffs. Yet tomorrow, I'll also drive a little bit further to Barnes & Noble (Best Buy is like ten miles away, and Target never has anything) and buy the God-damned thing.
    Best Buy and Barnes & Noble in the city don't have it. New York fucking City. Way to push the product fellas. It's bad enough those are my only choices left for music shopping besides on-line. Technology can go fuck it's self. I'm goin' to bed. Angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Alright boys. Settle down. Save some anger for the clips of Jump being played live on Ellen tomorrow.

    Jump??
    I simply can not fathom this. Fortunately, it's my day off, so whenever the show appears I will be so legless that whatever happens will have nothing other than a dulling effect on me. Of course, I 'll need to sober up for the golf match and throw dinner together by then...

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    I'm temporarily working on one of those Hawaiian islands. Drove into armpit city to look for the CD. Hey Target had it for $16 bucks. Sure what the fuck. I am impressed I found it here. Compare to Led Zep's Physical Graphitti which took forever to land here.

    Now about the record:

    The band is tight. Dave is embarrassingly out of key at times. But that was expected. This record should have highlighted ADKOT. Dave would have nailed more songs because that material captured Dave and his style in the present moment. However it seems his vocals are tucked away in the mix when he could not remember the words in the new songs.

    But there are some good performances here. After listening to most of disc 1: Everybody Wants Some!! You Really Got Me. I'm the One.

    It's entertainment!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    I swear if you can get through that Natl anthem without laughing..I owe you a beer
    but it fits to the current state of your country
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Who only listened to 3 songs?

    Why would Mike make any difference in the way Dave is butchering some of these songs? I have zero issues with the bass playing, or harmonies on this album.
    I would love to hear this with no vocals...the playing sounds excellent.
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    Interesting little tidbit in the liner notes: "All songs Van Halen/Roth except noted below (meaning Oh Pretty Woman and You Really Got Me)". So much for any forthcoming revenue to Mike Anthony....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    They couldn't/wouldn't do that because they couldn't have any of the new tracks, Wolfgang was way too green, the backing vocals were piped in and Eddie was nowhere close to where he is now even on his better nights.
    Still sounded better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Still sounded better...
    I'd rather hear the band off than the vocalist...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenJammin View Post
    still impressed he pulled off Atomic Punk so well on that tour !
    This is so good it's classic already...



    The amazing thing is Dave looks about 30 years younger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    This is so good it's classic already...



    The amazing thing is Dave looks about 30 years younger...
    while ed looks totally hammered...

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    He plays pretty good half way hammered though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidLeeNatra View Post
    while ed looks totally hammered...
    No, this is totally hammered...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    No, this is totally hammered...
    this is totally beyond everything...compared to this dave is singing like pavarotti...

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    VH live album - OFFICIAL

    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Interesting little tidbit in the liner notes: "All songs Van Halen/Roth except noted below (meaning Oh Pretty Woman and You Really Got Me)". So much for any forthcoming revenue to Mike Anthony....
    Noticed that. And was curious what the implications were. That credit appeared on ADKOT, too, and I wondered if it was a compromise reached by DLR and EVH, whereby it might still look like the 'Van Halen' part of the equation refers to the so-called Three Twins, i.e., makes it look as if Alex and Wolf were co-writers.

    Bur not in this case. Wolf did not co-write any six-pack tunes, so that songwriting credit just seems confusing. Those songs are not (or WERE NOT) 'Van Halen/Roth' compositions, but Anthony/ Roth/ Van Halen/Van Halen (listed alphabetically here)

    Maybe Mike is all signed up to this new songwriting credit, and is covered by it - or has done some deal to transfer his copyright (highly unlikely, I'd think)? If not, time to call the lawyers ...
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    I thought MA sold his coywrite years ago to get out of his VH contract and play with The Other Half...or whatever they were called..Hagars band ?

    I read something like that here.
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