VH live album - OFFICIAL

[Droomer5150]

We are the consumers. These guys are SELLING us something. They set the bar high. They used to demand the best of themselves, and expected us to demand the best from them. Now they are lazy and complacent. After being diehard fans since the 70's, we're just supposed to turn the other cheek, and not express ourselves? Sounds like a pussy move to me. Don't hurt a motherfuckers feelings! Waaaaaa! "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"! I thought the politically correct pussification was only an American thing. I see it has made it way to Oz too.

Good point haha. I hate the politically correct shit that goes on today, the thing that pisses me off with that is that the people trying to be politically correct are fancy pancy fucktits all high and mighty cocky up themselves asswipes who look down on people with opinions different to theirs usually being just as arrogant as what they are trying to preach against haha. I mean more of a do we have to be so asshole about it? haha

[TFM_Dale]

They're just trying to get rid of Dave.

They're looking for the backlash so they can blame Dave for everything.

All clearing the way for Donnie's dream to come true. Kip Winger as the new lead singer of VH!

[DONNIEP]

All clearing the way for Donnie's dream to come true. Kip Winger as the new lead singer of VH!

Nah, Kip is too sexy to be up there with ol' crotchety Ed. Besides, his band is pretty bad ass. And no matter how much you guys don't like them (lying fags) they sound a hell of a lot better than VH these days

Edit - and Kip still has better hair.

[FORD]

Here's my two cents....

You know, I still buy Rolling Stones live albums. I don't expect them to measure up to "A Brussels Affair", and know goddamned well that they will never make a record that sounds like that again.

Difference there, of course, is that the Stones actually RELEASED "A Brussels Affair". Granted, it took them 40 fucking years to do it, and still didn't make it easy to obtain, with no CD release, so you were limited (legally) to shitty MP3 files (in the US of course) or to a ridiculously priced vinyl version ($700, last I checked). But I found the FLACs that were sold legitimately in all the other countries NOT ruled by corporate fascism

So I own that album. And I own the album they released from the Hyde Park show at their 50th anniversary show last year. And there's no question which one I like better. But thanks, Mick & Keith, for putting them BOTH out there for the fans to listen to.

This is the message they need to hear up on Howdy Doody Mountain. Put this album out? Sure, why not? But we all know damn well there's an official live album already in the can from 1981 tour (scrapped at the 11th hour, causing the forced recording of Diver Down).

So enough already, Eddie. Open the goddamned archives like every other aging rock star has.

Oh, and if your ridiculous dispute with Sobolewski is the cause of this leaving the vault doors slammed shut, then you both need to GROW THE FUCK UP ALREADY AND GET OVER IT. Wolfie's clearly got other interests, and wants to be in a band with guys closer to his own age. Can't blame him for that. Let him go, with your full blessings, and do what's right for the band, for fucks sake.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I never said that they were big payers.

My attitude is almost always 'What would Brent at the Links do?' and if I do the opposite it's not going to be too far away from what the ethos of this place should be.

Maybe a little advertising would pay for a VBulletin replacement?

Look at it this way, it would give Von one less thing to bitch about...

[DONNIEP]

Maybe a little advertising would pay for a VBulletin replacement?

Ron Jeremy dick growing secrets pop up ads!! Not that I've ever seen those on porn sites, I just heard they're annoying.

[ELVIS]

Well nice to see everyone isn't completely throwing Dave under the bus.

No, I think it sucks they made an album from a tour where Dave was clearly having voice trouble and was coughing through almost every show...

it's the same as if they used a 2007 show where Ed was wasted...

[DONNIEP]

I've got live boots going all the way back to the club days. I'll just continue enjoying them.

[Seshmeister]

Maybe a little advertising would pay for a VBulletin replacement?

Look at it this way, it would give Von one less thing to bitch about...

No screw that and also fuck shaking down all the users each year for thousands while threatening to shut down if they don't pay up.

There is a donate button and the Amazon thing but apart from that this has been a pirate ship for 17 years now and we aren't going corporate...

Von will always find something to bitch about...

[fraroc]

Dude, get a tampon and chill out.

But you can't say I'm wrong though. There has honestly been such little positivity and sanity in the Van Halen fanbase I'd say ever since Tattoo came out. Now hating DLR/Van Halen is the hip thing to do.

[Seshmeister]

This time to sabotage Roth once again by releasing a horrible live show in which Dave was COMPLETELY off the entire night.

If he felt sabotaged would he have worked on choosing the artwork?

On that point I think the French flag thing is a bit odd, I'm surprised he didn't find something Japanese or American or a mixture.

[Droomer5150]

Here's my two cents....

You know, I still buy Rolling Stones live albums. I don't expect them to measure up to "A Brussels Affair", and know goddamned well that they will never make a record that sounds like that again.

Difference there, of course, is that the Stones actually RELEASED "A Brussels Affair". Granted, it took them 40 fucking years to do it, and still didn't make it easy to obtain, with no CD release, so you were limited (legally) to shitty MP3 files (in the US of course) or to a ridiculously priced vinyl version ($700, last I checked). But I found the FLACs that were sold legitimately in all the other countries NOT ruled by corporate fascism

So I own that album. And I own the album they released from the Hyde Park show at their 50th anniversary show last year. And there's no question which one I like better. But thanks, Mick & Keith, for putting them BOTH out there for the fans to listen to.

This is the message they need to hear up on Howdy Doody Mountain. Put this album out? Sure, why not? But we all know damn well there's an official live album already in the can from 1981 tour (scrapped at the 11th hour, causing the forced recording of Diver Down).

So enough already, Eddie. Open the goddamned archives like every other aging rock star has.

Oh, and if your ridiculous dispute with Sobolewski is the cause of this leaving the vault doors slammed shut, then you both need to GROW THE FUCK UP ALREADY AND GET OVER IT. Wolfie's clearly got other interests, and wants to be in a band with guys closer to his own age. Can't blame him for that. Let him go, with your full blessings, and do what's right for the band, for fucks sake.

See this is the type of rage I like to see! If they want to release tokyo live, then release it, if anyone doesn't like it then they just shouldn't buy it...but then open the vault and start unleashing live VH in their prime! Imagine VH released Oakland 81 first then released Tokyo Dome live, TD wouldn't even sell at all. Trying to follow up that with a modern release (that doesn't have Anthony either) would be suicide. It at least has the novelty interest of being Daves only official live album (so far). Maybe there's hope for the vaults to open now.

[WARF]

fuck. The. Van. Halen. Fans.

Go. Get. A. Fucking. Job.

[ELVIS]

If he felt sabotaged would he have worked on choosing the artwork?

You call that artwork ??

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Second rant of the night here, not about the album, but rather about the fans....

First was from the Aussie Droomer, and now you....

You know what the common denominators are? Regardless of the fact that you're both big VH fans, and that's cool as hell, YOU'RE BOTH KIDS.....

You guys do not have 1/10th of the time invested in this band like we do, it's that simple....

If you've experienced getting screwed over by this band for the better part of what, 19 years (since '96, let's say), then you'll know EXACTLY what we're talking about.....

So look at it in our point of view.....

[ELVIS]

It at least has the novelty interest of being Daves only official live album.

What a horrible thought...

You should be BANNED !!

[DONNIEP]

Are you fuckin kidding me? This coming from the kid who threatens to kill people cause they post some shit about Sammy or Kiss or some shit on YouTube?? And he wants to talk about positivity now?? What the fuck you think this is - some kind of support group?

[TFM_Dale]

But you can't say I'm wrong though. There has honestly been such little positivity and sanity in the Van Halen fanbase I'd say ever since Tattoo came out. Now hating DLR/Van Halen is the hip thing to do.

They are releasing one of the worst live shows they have ever done as a live album when they have HUNDREDS of better shows they could choose from. If they want to do a Classic VH through the years box set and include this show than fine, but on its own is bullshit.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Merged Rant #2.....

[TFM_Dale]

Merged Rant #2.....

Nazi!

[DONNIEP]

Merged Rant #2.....

Heavy handed over moderating...I would have just sent it to the Dump lol

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Heavy handed over moderating...I would have just sent it to the Dump lol

Nah man....

They're his views, that's cool, even though I disagree with them....

Just threw them in with the others, that's all....

[TFM_Dale]

Nah man....

They're his views, that's cool, even though I disagree with them....

Just threw them in with the others, that's all....

Nice to see you as a webmaster again. It had been too long.

[DONNIEP]

Nah man....

They're his views, that's cool, even though I disagree with them....

Just threw them in with the others, that's all....

I'm glad you merged em - I have the attention span of a goldfish and get tired of jumping back and forth.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Nice to see you as a webmaster again. It had been too long.

I had nothing to do with it, I think we just caught Von in a vulnerable mood....

[FALCO]

Van Halen has been my favorite band since hearing Van Halen I played on my friends brothers turntable in 1980.
Van Halen fronted by Diamond David Lee Roth ONLY to be specific. I can honestly say that I am baffled, irked, and very suspect as to why THIS was released. Going back over most of the YouTube's from '07/'08, there EASILY was enough material to put out a KILLER LIVE CD! There were more than enough shows that EVH was in good form. Better form than DLR in his horrific form from the '12/'13 Tour. And in '07/'08 Dave was the Rock God that he should have been: Swagger, killer attitude, and he SANG THE FUCKING SONGS IN THE RIGHT KEY WITH THE RIGHT MELODY!!! Was it PERFECT? Of course not, but there was 100% more to work with than the abomination that my ears have listened to from Tokyo. He tore it up on the '07/'08 run.

What? They wanted some new material from ADKOT??? Well, so glad that China Town is how that material should be represented...

I know many are wanting the vaults opened. But in this case I would have just settled for an entire setlist from different '07/'08 dates (maybe even a DVD from that tour). Maybe being a singer I'm jaded, but I LISTEN TO THE SINGER when listening to songs. As AMAZING as EVH was on this last tour, DLR was BEYOND sub par. And I blame his ridiculous vocal choices... he obviously can still growl that mid range when he wants to. He just chooses to sing in this manner and change all the melodies.

I also find it interesting that DavidLeeRoth.com is still black.

I don't know. I think there is something very weird going on. Even if there isn't and all is shangri-la with VH, I cannot accept this travesty to be called "The definitive LIVE Van Halen with David Lee Roth".

FALCO
\m/ \m/

[Seshmeister]

You call that artwork ??

The cover to Diver Down is artwork, a white or black album is artwork.

Album art is a dead medium now anyway as it has gone from LP to a small square on a phone...

[FORD]

See this is the type of rage I like to see! If they want to release tokyo live, then release it, if anyone doesn't like it then they just shouldn't buy it...but then open the vault and start unleashing live VH in their prime! Imagine VH released Oakland 81 first then released Tokyo Dome live, TD wouldn't even sell at all. Trying to follow up that with a modern release (that doesn't have Anthony either) would be suicide. It at least has the novelty interest of being Daves only official live album (so far). Maybe there's hope for the vaults to open now.

The easiest way to get the ball rolling on this would be a no brainer. There's a concert from the Pasadena Civic Center in October 1977 that's been out there in bootleg form for years. How easy would it be for them to throw that it as a "bonus disc" on the latest remaster of the debut album, and at least add some value to it. Yeah, I'm sure most of you reading this already have that boot. But then, that's not who these new remasters are aimed at, is it?



Just in case there's actually anybody out there who's never fucking heard this....

[TFM_Dale]

a white or black album

Racist reply from E in 3........2.........1

[ELVIS]

The cover to Diver Down is artwork, a white or black album is artwork.

Album art is a dead medium now anyway as it has gone from LP to a small square on a phone...

Thanks for clearing that up...

[ELVIS]

Was The Beatles white album racist ??

[ELVIS]

The easiest way to get the ball rolling on this would be a no brainer. There's a concert from the Pasadena Civic Center in October 1977 that's been out there in bootleg form for years. How easy would it be for them to throw that it as a "bonus disc" on the latest remaster of the debut album, and at least add some value to it. Yeah, I'm sure most of you reading this already have that boot. But then, that's not who these new remasters are aimed at, is it?

Yeah, you could throw away the Tokyo discs and have the '77 boot with a case...

[Droomer5150]

Are you fuckin kidding me? This coming from the kid who threatens to kill people cause they post some shit about Sammy or Kiss or some shit on YouTube?? And he wants to talk about positivity now?? What the fuck you think this is - some kind of support group?

Are you talking about me or the other guy? haha, I've never threatened to kill anyone in defence of Hagar or KISS haha. That's not my bag baby. But yeah I guess I've only been a part of the 19 (more considering the Hagar era is blacklisted here) years of VH dysfunction for 7 of them so I can't imagine the immense frustration of coping through an extra 12! I'd probably be pretty passed the point of pissed too haha

[ELVIS]

Album art is a dead medium now anyway as it has gone from LP to a small square on a phone...

That's such bullshit...

[Seshmeister]

The easiest way to get the ball rolling on this would be a no brainer. There's a concert from the Pasadena Civic Center in October 1977 that's been out there in bootleg form for years. How easy would it be for them to throw that it as a "bonus disc" on the latest remaster of the debut album, and at least add some value to it. Yeah, I'm sure most of you reading this already have that boot. But then, that's not who these new remasters are aimed at, is it?



Just in case there's actually anybody out there who's never fucking heard this....

The first bootleg I ever got, it didn't reach me until the mid 80s or so.

I'm not sure how the ownership would work on a recording like that.

Here's a theory, you know how when you see a group photo you always just look to see if you are blinking or whatever, missing the overall thing of whether it's a good photo? The show I saw on the 2008 tour was one of the better ones by all accounts but even rehab Ed was not on top form. Then you have the backing vocals being piped in and perhaps some suspicions about the veracity of all the bass being completely live. Add that and the fact there was no ADKOT then it's inevitable that the Van Halens would much much prefer a show from 2012.

[DONNIEP]

Are you talking about me or the other guy? haha, I've never threatened to kill anyone in defence of Hagar or KISS haha. That's not my bag baby. But yeah I guess I've only been a part of the 19 (more considering the Hagar era is blacklisted here) years of VH dysfunction for 7 of them so I can't imagine the immense frustration of coping through an extra 12! I'd probably be pretty passed the point of pissed too haha

No, not you, lol.

[DONNIEP]

Was The Beatles white album racist ??

No but it was only successful becaise of White Privilege.

[ELVIS]

What Metallica's Black album ??

[WARF]

I bet ya anything this release is being used as an excuse to fire David Lee Roth and bring in a new singer.

[TFM_Dale]

What Metallica's Black album ??

That was just the start of their downward spiral.