VH live album - OFFICIAL

[Fairwrning]

I assume this means no new tunes..and the only live album I want to see is from the 81 tour..fuckers...

[Never was]

This seems like a radio guy with photoshop created some random crap for DJs to run with to pump up streaming ratings and get attention.

[VAiN]

Did this happen?

It's 12:30 now and I've been listening since 11:30 - nothing.

[ZahZoo]

Did this happen?

Not yet... no mention of anything Van Halen either... Just gave the weather report there. -19c (-2.2F) It's cold as hell there... but the stench of bullshit seems to be on the rise.

[DLR Bridge]

I also find it hard to believe they would toss China Town out there live. The repair work on that would be significant and leave them open to get ripped for the difference between the actual live recording available on the net and the "live" version on the record after clean up.

Was the net version of Chinatown from Tokyo on par with the U.S. performances, particularly in the vocal department?

[VHscraps]

If that press release is real, what is significant to these eyes is that this album is being released through Warner Bros.

If that's so, it is maybe the beginning of a longer process of working the old catalogue - which VH have not done (if you compare them to any other band of their stature) since they split with Warners. But then again, if the remasters are not expanded versions of the albums, then it doesn't make a lot of sense to issue another remaster.

Prince went back to Warners last year and, in return, they handed over rights to his masters. They didn't need to do that - not with every album - because it is only albums that are 35-years old THAT HAVE BEEN RELEASED SINCE 1978 that an artist is now able to try and reclaim the rights to. The rights don't automatically revert to the artists - the artist has to file a suit with the US Copyright Office.

But, with big acts, it is also arguably in the interest of labels to come to new arrangements with the artist, so that they continue to make at least something from the legacy catalogue. And the artist also benefits from better financial deals, even if they don't 100% take control of the masters - they don't have to worry about storing and managing and marketing their catalogue, which apparently can involve fairly substantial continuing costs.

As of late 2012, when that story in Billboard was published, very few artists had filed to recover the rights to their master recordings. VH wasn't mentioned in the story - and because the suits are filed publicly it would have been known - which might suggest they have inked a new deal with Warners.

Maybe the special project is a series of re-issues (and let's hope they have at least a goddam booklet or something), with this live album coming at the time of the first two reissues of VH1 and 1984.

[Never was]

It was better than US dates but clearly not a song even on a good day Dave can sing live due to the pace.

[Never was]

I don't think that release is authentic. If it is then some intern sent it out while Irving Azoff was at lunch or something because that is not his style at all. He has a pretty distinct brand of bullshit and the odor hear is does not match.

[kwame k]

Ed's worst fear will be realized if they put out this crap!

I'll illegally download the fuck out of this and give it out to everyone I know........might even give it to people I don't know

So right out of the gate you're minus a few hundred bucks on this cash grab fiasco!

Way to give the fans what they want and have your finger on the pulse of the buying public team VH!

[FORD]

I'm not finding any trace of this album on Amazon. If there was something on their earlier, it must have been yanked.

And if they're going to remaster the 6 pack AGAIN, then they need to add something to it to make it worth buying again.

Although a vinyl release of the whole thing would be a step in the right direction.

[DLR Bridge]

I'm not finding any trace of this album on Amazon. If there was something on their earlier, it must have been yanked.

I heard it was. I got the screen shot from the Van Halen Rising FB page.

[ZahZoo]

Couple of minutes ago the station posted on their Facebook page that the plan to play Panama was "changing... the single is no longer available!"

Pardon me while I go clean the crap off my boot so I don't track any more around...

[Never was]

The press release conveniently makes no use of trademark or copyright notations typical on ANY corporate press release, all rights reserved.....

The press release is bunk it all is bunk

Picked a good show from ADKOT tour if real, just do not think it is. So we still wait for what is real ....

[Fairwrning]

If they put out a live album from the last tour, I will not only NOT buy it but will not spend a single cent on VH in 2015! No cash for a tour, no cash for a live album.

Van Halen............the only band on earth who gives their fans exactly what they don't want every time!

If you are gonna remaster something..REMASTER THIS!!!! find this fucking show and release it...

[Kristy]

I gotta ask the question:

What is gonna be the difference these remasters and the ones from 10+ years ago? Is it simply that the technology is that much better since then?

It's a marketing scam. Most likely they'll come with "rare photos," historical footnotes of the records recording dates, and an inflated price. I blame Jimmy Page and of course, Obama for this.

The re-remastering will most likely be stronger but what really needs to happen is to have them on 24-bit instead of the limited 16-bit CD audio limitations. In other words, you'll have a CD "remaster" with DVD sound. Only problem being finding players that will play them.

[Monkeeman]

If there was going to be unreleased tracks on the remasters, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops. And they are not.

The 'live' album will be more rerecorded in the studio than what was played and sang on the night. Especially Dave's vocals.

[kwame k]

If you are gonna remaster something..REMASTER THIS!!!! find this fucking show and release it...

Yes, yes and yes!

Or Largo!

Or fucking Iowa from '82!!

I don't give a fuck which show you release live but for the love of fuck! Please release a show that your fans might actually buy

[Va Beach VH Fan]

If there was going to be unreleased tracks on the remasters, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops. And they are not.

The 'live' album will be more rerecorded in the studio than what was played and sang on the night. Especially Dave's vocals.

Yeah, but if you listen to the Youtube vids of that show, Dave, knowing it was going to be recorded, "yelps" much much less than in previous shows.....

[FORD]

So a rumor started by an obscure Canadian radio station and pushed by MelodiCrock.....

I think I'm having Covercheese flashbacks!

[VHscraps]

The DJ posted to Facebook this comment, below, about the non-appearance of 'Panama (Live)' as promised. I have copied from a post by user named Expanded Consciousness on VHLinks:

106.7 THE DRIVE Tell what you want Michael Hunt Give me one good reason why we would have any reason to try and pull one over?! Why I feel the need to have to justify this to you is beyond explanation. I guess I must be really bored. Record companies deliver singles to radio digitally via a secure website called DMDS. Yesterday at 7am I got a delivery notification e-mail from Warner music with a live version of Panama and the press release that was attached. I didn't download it right away because we rarely play live versions of songs. So, when went to do you guys a solid and download it this morning, the track was no longer available. Most likely what happened was someone jumped the gun & released before they were supposed to. I don't think the record company goes thru the work of writing up a press release for shits & giggles. I apologize to you James, I honestly have no reason to bullshit you. ~P

[ZahZoo]

The press release conveniently makes no use of trademark or copyright notations typical on ANY corporate press release, all rights reserved.....

The press release is bunk it all is bunk

Picked a good show from ADKOT tour if real, just do not think it is. So we still wait for what is real ....

I don't know for sure but the responses the DJ posting to their facebook page claims the press release, artwork and the single was all posted by WB via DMDS which is some secure website labels use to distribute new material to radio stations.

There's holes in the story though... claims he got the e-mail notification last night and posted the Press release and art work. Claims he didn't download the single and went in this morning to pull it and it had been removed from the database.

Of course VH fans have been slamming him on FB and he's firing back... his last post says it all...

106.7 THE DRIVE you guys have all left a pretty bitter taste in my mouth for Van Halen fans. Way to represent

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Of course VH fans have been slamming him on FB and he's firing back... his last post says it all...

And just think, he hasn't even visited the Links or the Army yet.... He has no idea.....

[kwame k]

I'll post my link to the free download if it's a live album from the last tour!

I'll be sending team VH the tally of how much money they lost by releasing it, daily!

[ZahZoo]

And just think, he hasn't even visited the Links or the Army yet.... He has no idea.....

LOL yeah links is ready to send a snowmobile posse up after him...

Wonder as this makes the rounds in the music media if any other radio stations will chime in..? They can't be the only station on earth to have received this single and press package.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

LOL yeah links is ready to send a snowmobile posse up after him...

Wonder as this makes the rounds in the music media if any other radio stations will chime in..? They can't be the only station on earth to have received this single and press package.

It's just another example of Van Halen management's incredible incompetence when it comes to publicity in the 21st century.

It's incomprehensible how horrible they are, unless of course it's driven from high above at Howdy Doody Mountain, which then it makes perfect sense........

[mh5150]

The DJ posted to Facebook this comment, below, about the non-appearance of 'Panama (Live)' as promised. I have copied from a post by user named Expanded Consciousness on VHLinks:

He was answering my post. Some how though I believe him.
Don't know why...

GET READY...

[kwame k]

It's just another example of Van Halen management's incredible incompetence when it comes to publicity in the 21st century.

It's incomprehensible how horrible they are, unless of course it's driven from high above at Howdy Doody Mountain, which then it makes perfect sense........

Fuck publicity..........how about giving fans what they really want

[ZahZoo]

Fuck publicity..........how about giving fans what they really want

$25 on the right street corner will get you what you want...

[Splooge]

Legit artwork? French flag.

The French are known for surrendering.

Surrender = "we quit."

Uh oh.

Fak! The froggy flag appears to be at half mast too.

[mh5150]

My local classic rock station 100.7 The Bay just announced it...
Piggy Backing?

GET READY...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Fuck publicity..........how about giving fans what they really want

Yeah, I hear ya, but I'm just talking about COMMON SENSE publicity....

Meaning, ok, Van Halen decides that they're going finally put some a live CD with Dave.....

Even the shittiest PR firm does some minimal publicity for it when the decision is made..... Because, maybe you might want to publicize that, to, you know, PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN BUYING THE FUCKING THING....

Only Van Halen makes each and every evolution absolutely secret, IT'S FUCKING INSANE !!

Look at other old fart rock groups, and look at their social media....KISS, AC/DC, Metallica, Aerosmith....

They absolutely PLASTER FB and Twitter with several things EVERY DAY....

Van Halen? The only thing they give fans is a fucking Merry Christmas plug.....

Just fucking insane.....

[twonabomber]

Van Halen? The only thing they give fans is a fucking Merry Christmas plug.....

Just fucking insane.....

Dog pics. Don't forget the dog pics.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Dog pics. Don't forget the dog pics.

Oh yeah, so sorry... .


AND, to top it off, Ed's old lady IS A FUCKING PUBLICIST !!!

[kwame k]

A stunt publicist

[Never was]

Really enjoyed your rant VA, summed up so many fans frustrations.
cheers

[Splooge]

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Really enjoyed your rant VA, summed up so many fans frustrations.
cheers

LOL, it's frustrating as hell....

And the most frustrating thing? It's something that any of VH diehard idiots can do!

I wouldn't go as far as to say I'd do it for free, but FUCK, it's not like making Facebook and Twitter posts is rocket surgery !!!

But let's not kid ourselves, this is ELVH and his "publicist" wife's doing, absolutely no doubt about it.....

[Never was]

Back in the day this band had a sense of humor. You think that and having the human version of the energizer bunny in Dave would lend to being able to use social media to their advantage even if they just made fun of themselves at how bad they suck at social media. It would work, humor did work for them, this kind of buckshot whacka mole pop your head up randomly shit just weakens their brand. At this point they don't seem to care about that but as you said damn this should be easy.

[mh5150]

LOL, it's frustrating as hell....

And the most frustrating thing? It's something that any of VH diehard idiots can do!

I wouldn't go as far as to say I'd do it for free, but FUCK, it's not like making Facebook and Twitter posts is rocket surgery !!!

But let's not kid ourselves, this is ELVH and his "publicist" wife's doing, absolutely no doubt about it.....

Obviously THEY ARE not ready ...
Like us ...
LoL

GET READY...

[Splooge]

Back in the day this band had a sense of humor. You think that and having the human version of the energizer bunny in Dave would lend to being able to use social media to their advantage even if they just made fun of themselves at how bad they suck at social media. It would work, humor did work for them, this kind of buckshot whacka mole pop your head up randomly shit just weakens their brand. At this point they don't seem to care about that but as you said damn this should be easy.

There is no brand left to weaken. They have been fucking this up for so long, only the hardcore fans like us, even know they are still around, or who is in the band right now.
At a time when brand promotion is so easy, so cheap, even free, they still can't get it right.