VH live album - OFFICIAL

[chuckjitsu]

No I would not, The new Orleans show is light years better...

And the best way for these guys to make a live album is to record every show and pick the best material, like iron Maiden did...

Well, if they didn't record the NO show or any of the other 2012 shows where Dave sounded ok or better than the Tokyo show, then what does it matter? What if they only recorded the Pittsburgh or DC shows (shows I thought Dave was off for most of the show)? My assumption is that they are either releasing the only show they actually recorded, or the show they think sounds the best. And if their choices were "good enough" or "man, this would need a lot of work", then I'd assume they'd choose the former. Without knowing what shows they had to choose from for the live release it's tough to say.

[Von Halen]

You mean anonymous assholes on YouTube and their opinions should govern my decision making/thought processes?

Well, these are the people VH is going to need to purchase tickets to see them live. Live albums are supposed to make people want to go see the band live. This performance is not even having that affect on the most diehard VH fans.

When I heard Double Live Gonzo, I wanted to go see Ted.
When I heard Live Bullet, I wanted to go see Seger.
When I heard If You Want Blood, You've Got It, I wanted to see AC/DC.
When I heard Frampton Comes Alive, I wanted to see Frampton.
When I heard Live After Death, I wanted to see Iron Maiden.
When I heard Live You Get What You Play For, I wanted to see REO. (I don't give a fuck what you say, they were a great live band before High Infideltiy)
When I heard Get Off Your Feet, Get On Your Knees, I wanted to see Blue Oyster Cult.
When I heard Budokan, I wanted to see Cheap Trick.
When I heard Alive, I wanted to see Kiss.
When I heard Live and Dangerous, I wanted to see Thin Lizzy.
When I heard Strangers In The Night, I wanted to see UFO.
When I heard Unleashed In The East, I wanted to see Judas Priest.
When I heard Live At Leeds, I wanted to see The Who.
When I heard All The World's A Stage, I wanted to see Rush.

Those are just some off the top of my head.

When I hear this garbage release, the last thing I want to do, is go see VH live. And I'm one of the biggest diehards you'll ever meet. I can't imagine any casual fan hearing this version of Panama on the radio, and then running out to buy a ticket to see it live.

[ELVIS]

Well, if they didn't record the NO show or any of the other 2012 shows where Dave sounded ok or better than the Tokyo show, then what does it matter? What if they only recorded the Pittsburgh or DC shows (shows I thought Dave was off for most of the show)? My assumption is that they are either releasing the only show they actually recorded, or the show they think sounds the best. And if their choices were "good enough" or "man, this would need a lot of work", then I'd assume they'd choose the former. Without knowing what shows they had to choose from for the live release it's tough to say.

I think you're projecting way too much reason there...

[DavidLeeNatra]

...this whole band has become a "been there, done that" project...

first tour was somehow great except for the Wolf-thing...

ADKOT to me is a very good album (poor production aside)...

second tour was disappointing...

I personally got closure...I don't give a flying shit anymore if Dave comes out with a tattoo on his shaved dick to celebrate somebody's birthday and I don't have a google alert for the latest Kody picture featuring pirate white-beard commander of the howdie doodie mountain. considering the band's history this album is in a way a logical and consistent way to run the titanic into the iceberg. they became an irrelevant joke and will fade into obscurity and give us a little mudslinging again when it's finally over...

so...I come here when I'm bored from doing something more interesting which is now 99% of the things I do including reading cartoons on the shitter.

=VH=...been there, done that...thanks for the memories

[ELVIS]

ADKOT to me is a very good album (poor production aside)...

Maybe in retrospect it's great production...

[DavidLeeNatra]

Maybe in retrospect it's great production...

[binnie]

My Mum always said 'If you've got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all'.

So I won't say anything about 'Panama' and 'Runnin'....'

[Dave's Bitch]

Well I don't know about you guys, but I'm certainly pre ordering

[Von Halen]

Well I don't know about you guys, but I'm certainly pre ordering

I would ask you to burn me a copy, but I don't want it.

[DavidLeeNatra]

I was the first one to have ADKOT as it was delivered one day too early over here and two days before the US release...I might be the last one to get this one...

[ELVIS]

I'm not getting it...

[DavidLeeNatra]

I'm not getting it...

nor will I...

[ELVIS]

I now know why Dave put a ship on the cover...

[DavidLeeNatra]

a dave quote comes in mind, about their manager:

“Van Halen is represented by one of the biggest idiots in the history of the sport, Irving Azoff. In fact that’s the job description; that’s his official title…We’re surrounded by all kinds of colourful characters. Promoters included.”

[WARF]

Here's a list of Van Halen live performances that I would have rather had over the Tokyo Dome!


Glitter Demos
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Various (see notes)
The Demography
4 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Complete Demos 1974-1984 (various)
Cherokee Demos
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Cherokee Studios - Chatworth, CA - 1974
Gazzari's 1974
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Gazzari's West Hollywood - 1974
Gazzari's Dance Contest
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
West Hollywood California, 1974 & 1975
Schools Out
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Pasadena High School
The Village Recorder (LA)
Electric Ladyland Studios (NY)
The Oldest Gig At Gazzari's
Compact Disc
Gazzari's, West Hollywood - November 1974
Anaheim Stadium California - September 23, 1978
Looney Tunes Merrie Melodies: The Unreleased
4 Compact Discs
Various (see notes)
The Unreleased Songs
4 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Various (see notes)
Demo Daze
Compact Disc
Various, see notes
Mammoth Demos
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Various
Unknown 1975-1976 Demos
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Unknown Location - 1975 or 1976
Goldenwest Ballroom - Live 1976
Compact Disc
The Goldenwest Ballroom, Norwalk, CA, May 9, 1976
Live Anthology 1975 - 1981
2 Compact Discs
Various (see notes)
Eatin' Schenker's for Breakfast
Compact Disc (CD-R)
The Goldenwest Ballroom, Norwalk, CA, May 9, 1976
Golden West Ballroom 1976
Compact Disc (CD-R)
The Goldenwest Ballroom - Norwalk, CA - May 9, 1976 & various
Club Days (Goldenwest Ballroom Pt. II)
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Goldenwest Ballroom May 9, 1976
The Starwood Club June 1, 1976
La Canada High School Feb 1975
Golden West Ballroom Deluxe
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
May 9, 1976 and various (see notes)
Just Before The Eruption
3 Compact Discs
Pasadena Convention Center - Pasadena, CA - May 29, 1976
Starwood - Hollywood CA - June 1, 1976
John Muir High School - Pasadena CA - 1975
Pasadena Hilton
Compact Disc
Pasadena Hilton - June 13, 1975
Pasadena Convention Center - Pasadena, CA - May 29, 1976
Strike While The Iron's Hot
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Pasadena Convention Center - Pasadena, CA - May 29, 1976
May 29, 1976
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Pasadena Convention Center - Pasadena, CA - May 29, 1976
Civic Disobedience
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Conference Building - Pasadena Convention Center - Pasadena, CA - May 29, 1976
Party Time
LP
Demos and The Starwood Club - Hollywood CA - June 1, 1976
Injection is Nice...but I'd Rather be Blown
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Starwood Club - Los Angeles, CA - June 29, 1976
June 29, 1976
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Starwood - Hollywood, CA - June 29, 1976
Starwood Sensation
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Starwood Club - Hollywood, CA - June 29, 1976
Shotgun Wedding
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Starwood - Hollywood, CA - June 30, 1976
September 18, 1976
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Aeros Bogarts - San Bernardino, CA - September 18, 1976
Covers Band From Pasadena
Compact Disc
Live at Aeros Bogarts, San Bernarndino, CA 1976
Zero
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Gene Simmons demos
Complete Zero
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Gene Simmons Demos (1976)
Warner Bros Demos (1977)
Party At Ground Zero
Compact Disc
1976 Zero Demos & 1977 Demos
Before The Eruption
2 Compact Discs
Gene Simmons Demos
Warner Bros Demos
Pasadena Civic - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
Warner Demos
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
October 1977
Listen To This Gene
Compact Disc
Gene Simmons Demos & Civic Auditorium, Pasadena, CA - Feb 8, 1978
Blueprint
2 Compact Discs
25 Song Demos Recorded Oct. 26 & 27, 1977
"That's All Folks"
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
25 Song Demos & more...
After Zero
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
25 Song Demos
Eyes of the Night
Compact Disc
Tracks 1-9 recorded live at Pasadena Community College, California on 5-30-76.
Tracks 10-15 recorded live in Tokyo, Japan 1978.
Slummin' It!
Compact Disc (CD-R)
(see notes)
Slummin' It!
Compact Disc
(see notes)
The First Recordings
Compact Disc
Tracks 1-6, Demo takes
Tracks 7-8, Live at Santa Monica High School 1976
Tracks 9-16, Live at Paris Theatre Mogador 1978
Eddie Van Halen: Guitar Man
Compact Disc
Soundboard 1977-1983
1984 Previous Night
Compact Disc
Tracks 1-8: Guitar Inst.
Tracks 9-11: Insrumental
Tracks 12-13: Demos (soundboard)
Van Halen At The Best
Compact Disc
(See Notes)
Van Halen Dave Is Back, Rarest Covers And Demos
Compact Disc
Various (see notes)
Dave's Sloppy Seconds
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
(various)
Van Halen '77 + Live
Compact Disc
Various (see notes)
Last Night
2 Compact Discs
Whiskey a Go-Go / Pasadena Hilton 1975/ Studio (1976/77 & 12/31/77)
Van Halen '77+ Lives On: '77+ Live Part Four
Compact Disc
(See notes)
June 10, 1977 (First Set)
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Whiskey A Go-Go - Hollywood, CA - June 10, 1977
June 10, 1977 (Second Set)
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Whiskey A Go-Go - Hollywood, CA - June 10, 1977
Oldest Lost Tape
Compact Disc (CD-R)
6/10/77 at the Whisky a Go Go
Magic Mountain 1977
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Six Flags Magic Mountain, Valencia California, October 1977
Die Laughing
LP
Civic Auditorium - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
Die Laughing
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
Midnight Cash
LP
Civic Auditorium - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
Midnight Cash
Compact Disc
Civic Auditorium - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
The Atomic Punks
LP
October 15, 1977 - Pasadena Civic Center
The Atomic Punks
Compact Disc
Civic Auditorium - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
Atomic Punk
Compact Disc
Pasadena Civic Auditorium - October 15, 1977
Young & Wild
Compact Disc
Pasadena Civic Auditorium - October 15, 1977
Live USA
Compact Disc
Pasadena, CA - Oct. 15, 1977
Eruption
Compact Disc
Pasadena Civic Auditorium - October 15, 1977
Japan
LP
Civic Auditorium - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
Rocks' Live!
LP
Civic Auditorium - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
The Nightmare Before Halloween
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Pasadena Civic - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
Pasadena On Fire
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Pasadena Civic - Pasadena, CA - October 15, 1977
Dressed To Kill
Compact Disc
Soundboard: Oct. 15, 1977, Soundboard Dec. 31, 1977, and Studio, ???
December 31, 1977 (First Set)
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Whiskey A Go-Go - W. Hollywood, CA - December 31, 1977
Bullethead
Compact Disc
Whisky A Go-Go - Hollywood, CA - December 31, 1977
New Years Eve Assault 1977
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Whiskey A Go-Go - W. Hollywood, CA - December 31, 1977
Civic Pride
Compact Disc
Tracks 1-11: Pasadena Civic Auditorium, October 15, 1977
Tracks 12-14: Kyoto, Japan September 3, 1979
Pasadena Partyslammers
Compact Disc
Pasadena CA - October 15, 1977 & Kyoto, Japan on September 3, 1979
Youth Gone Wild
Compact Disc
October 15, 1977 Pasadena & Somewhere in California 1993
Whiskey n' Gin
2 LP's
Sides 1 & 2 recorded live at the Whiskey A Go Go Dec 31st, 1977
Tracks 11 & 12, Side 3 recorded live at the Santa Monica High School
Tracks 13 - 19, Sides 3 & 4, various studio outtakes
Rules are for Fools
2 LP's
(see notes)
Summertime Blues
Compact Disc (CD-R)
The Whiskey A Go-Go 31 Dec 1977/Paris 1978
March 24, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Tower Theater - Philadelphia, PA - March 24, 1978
March 25, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Palladium - New York, NY - March 25, 1978
April 28, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Palladium - New York, NY - April 28, 1978
Burning Blood
Compact Disc
Paradiso, Amsterdam, Holland - May 6, 1978
Stand By Your Side
Compact Disc
Theatre Mogador, Paris (May 10, 1978)
May 10, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Theatre Mogador - Paris, France - May 10, 1978
Profile: Van Halen
LP
(see notes)
Devil Went To Paris
LP
Theatre Mogador - Paris, France - May 10, 1978
Anaheim Stadium - Anaheim, CA - September 23, 1978
The Devil Came To Paris
LP
Theatre Mogador - Paris, France - May 10, 1978
Anaheim Stadium - Anaheim, CA - September 23, 1978
May 18, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Apollo Theatre - Glasgow, Scotland - May 18, 1978
May 22, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Manchester Apollo - Manchester, England - May 22, 1978
May 23, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Hanley, England - Victoria Hall - May 23, 1978
May 26, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Colston Hall - Bristol, England - May 26, 1978
Ipswich 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Ipswich Gaumont - Ipswich, England - May 28, 1978
Erupted!
Compact Disc
Ipswich Gaumont - Ipswich, England - May 28, 1978
Victoria Hall - Hanley, England - May 23, 1978
Simple Rhymes
2 LP's
1st LP (Sides 1 & 2): Recorded 11 Oct 78 in Offenbach, Germany
2nd LP (Sides 3 & 4): Recorded 8 Feb 78 in Pasadena, CA
First UK Invasion
Compact Disc
Hammersmith Odeon - London, England - June 1, 1978
Gazzari's - West Hollywood, CA - 1974
June 1, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Hammersmith Odeon - London, England - June 1, 1978
June 10, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Hammersmith Odeon - London, England - June 10, 1978
Live in Tokyo 1978
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Shinjuku Hall - Tokyo Japan - June 17, 1978
Shinjuku 78 the Other Show
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Japan 6/19/78 Shinjuku, Koseinenkin Hall
June 22, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Sun Plaza - Tokyo, Japan - June 22, 1978
Sonic Tokyo
Compact Disc
Live at Sun Plaza Hall, Tokyo, 6/22/78
Don't Ever Set Me Free
2 Compact Discs
Live at the Sun Plaza Hall, TOKYO - June 22, 1978
Eastern Eruption
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Sun Plaza, Nakano, Tokyo - June 22, 1978
June 24, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Nagoya-Shi Kokaido - Nagoya, Japan - June 24, 1978
DOA Dreamer
Compact Disc
June 24, 1978 Nagoya Japan
Can't Sleep at Night
2 Compact Discs
Live at Koseinenkin Hall, Osaka, 6/27/1978
Rockin Into The Night
Compact Disc
Live, Osaka, Japan, 1978.
Fire In Osaka
2 LP's
Osaka - 6/27/78
First Eruption in Osaka 1978
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Osaka, Japan 6/27/78
July 9, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Long Beach Arena - Long Beach, CA - July 9, 1978
aint talkin bout love
Compact Disc
Oklahoma City - August 6, 1978
Oklahoma City 1978
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Oklahoma City - 1978
August 6, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Oklahoma Fairgrounds - Oklahoma City, OK - August 6, 1978
Bottoms Up!
Compact Disc
Oklahoma City, OK - August 6, 1978
Unknown USA - 1979
August 29, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA - August 29, 1978
September 9, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Niagara Falls Civic Center - Niagara Falls, NY - September 9, 1978
Hellooooo Fresno!
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Selland Arena - Fresno, CA - September 22, 1978
Never Fear
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Selland Arena - Fresno, CA - September 22, 1978
September 22, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Selland Arena - Fresno, CA - September 22, 1978
Suspicious Performance
LP
Anaheim Stadium - Anaheim, CA - September 23, 1978
Japan Tour '79
LP
Anaheim Stadium - Anaheim, CA - September 23, 1978
Rainbow Theater
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
London - October 22, 1978
November 19, 1978
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Municipal Auditorium - Nashville, TN - November 19, 1978
Paris78/Osaka79
LP
Side A - Osaka Japan 1979
Side B - Paris France 1978
On Fire In Fresno
Compact Disc
Fresno, California - 3/25/79
World Wide Tour 1979
Compact Disc (CD-R)
3/25/79 Selland Arena in Fresno, CA
Live and Loud!
Compact Disc
March 25, 1979 - Serrande Arena, Fresno CA
March 25, 1979
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Selland Arena - Fresno, CA - March 25, 1979
Bottoms Up!
Compact Disc
Selland Arena - Fresno, CA - March 25, 1979
California World Music Festival
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, California - April 8, 1979
California World Music Festival 1979
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, California - April 8, 1979
This Is Joe
2 LP's
Center Coliseum - Seattle, WA - April 12 or 13, 1979
Light Up The Sky
Compact Disc
Center Coliseum - Seattle, WA - April 12 or 13, 1979
Happy B-Day Lighting Guy!
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Pacific Coliseum - Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada - April 18, 1979
May 18, 1979
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
War Memorial - Rochester, NY - May 18, 1979
June 8, 1979
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Barton Coliseum - Little Rock, AR - June 8, 1979
VHLR79
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
TH Barton Coliseum - Little Rock, AR - June 8, 1979
June 14, 1979
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Vorst Nationaal - Brussels, Belgium - June 14, 1979
June 15, 1979
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Jaap eden Hal - Amsterdam, Holland - June 15, 1979
Complete Two Nights
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Edenhal, Amsterdam, Holland - June 15, 1979
Rainbow Theatre, London, England - June 29, 1979
We're An American Band
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Lyon, France - June 21, 1979
June 26, 1979
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
City Hall - Newcastle, England - June 26, 1979
Blitzed In London
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
London, 6/28/79
June 29, 1979
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Rainbow Theatre - London, England - June 29, 1979
July 8, 1979
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Civic Center - Lakeland, FL - July 8, 1979
I Want to F*ck Your Girlfriend
Compact Disc
(see notes)
Texas II Step
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Music Hall - Houston, TX - July 11, 1979
July 11, 1979
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Music Hall - Houston, TX - July 11, 1979
August 11, 1979
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Asbury Convention Hall - Asbury Park, NJ - August 11, 1979
Shooting Irons
2 Compact Discs
September 3, 1979 - Kyoto Japan
Celeblation of Big Rock
2 Compact Discs
Furitu, Taiikukan - Osaka, Japan - September 10, 1979
Van Halen - Japan Tour
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Budokan, Tokyo, Japan - 9/13/79
Tokyo 2nd Gen
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Budokan Hall - Tokyo, Japan - September 13, 1979
Japan Tour II
2 Compact Discs
Budokan Hall - Tokyo, Japan - September 13, 1979
Women and Children First Sessions
Compact Disc
Studio Outtakes 1980
April 27, 1980
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Cobo Hall - Detroit, MI - April 27, 1980
Remembering Largo
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Capitol Center, Largo MD - May 1, 1980
Bright Lights, Big Largo
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Capitol Center - Largo, MD - May 1, 1980
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Compact Disc
Capitol Theater, Largo MD - May 1, 1980
May 5, 1980
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY - May 5, 1980
May 26, 1980
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Daneb Sportpark - Pink Pop Festival - Geleen, Holland - May 26, 1980
The Good, The Bad and Van Hallen
2 LPs
June 23, 1980 - London Rainbow Ballroom
1980 London Invasion
Compact Disc (CD-R)
June 23, 1980 - London Rainbow Ballroom
1980 London Invasion
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Rainbow Theatre - London, England - June 23, 1980
Pot At The End Of The Rainbow
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Rainbow Ballroom - London - 6/24/1980
Have You Seen Junior's Grades?
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Maple Leaf Gardens - Toronto Ontario Canada - July 18, 1980
Live In Baltimore
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Baltimore Civic Center - Baltimore, MD - July 22, 1980
Uniondale/Glasgow
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Nassau County Coliseum - Uniondale, NY - July 27, 1980
Apollo Theatre - Glasgow, Scotland - May 18, 1978
August 8, 1980
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Lee Civic Center - Fort Meyers, FL - August 8, 1980
This Ain't Cheap Trick
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Albuquerque, New Mexico 9-10-80
Across The Bay
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Oakland Coliseum - Oakland, CA - October 9, 1980
1981
LP
Paris 1981
May 15, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Providence Civic Center - Providence, RI - May 15, 1981
June 11, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Oakland Coliseum - Oakland, CA - June 11, 1981
Home Ground
2 LP's
Los Angeles Sports Arena - Los Angeles, CA - June 19, 1981
June 19, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Los Angeles Sports Arena - Los Angeles, CA - June 19, 1981
Full Moon Fair Warning
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Fabulous Forum - Los Angeles, CA - June 21, 1981
Full Moon, Fair Warning
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Fabulous Forum, Los Angeles, CA - June 21, 1981
Tracks 6-11 of Disc 2 are from various sources - see notes
Listen Up Eddie
Compact Disc
Great Western Forum, Inglewood CA, 6-21-81
Sinners Dance
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Los Angeles, CA - 6/21/1981
June 21, 1981
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Great Western Forum - Inglewood, CA - June 21, 1981
July 4, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Cobo Hall - Detroit, MI - July 4, 1981
Mean Streets of Chicago
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
International Amphitheatre - Chicago, IL - July 10, 1981
July 10, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
International Amphitheater - Chicago, IL - July 10, 1981
July 20, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA - July 20, 1981
Martial Law
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA - July 21, 1981
July 28, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Capital Centre - Largo, MD - July 28, 1981
July 29, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Capital Centre - Largo, MD - July 29, 1981
August 25, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Greensboro Coliseum - Greensboro, NC - August 25, 1981
August 25, 1981 (2012 Upgrade)
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Greensboro Coliseum - Greensboro, NC - August 25, 1981
Then and Now
LP
New Haven, CT 1986 / Greensboro, NC 1981
August 31, 1981
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Jefferson Coliseum - Birmingham, AL - August 31, 1981
September 1, 1981
DVD (Homemade DVDR)
Mid-South Coliseum - Memphis, TN - September 1, 1981
September 28, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Veterans Memorial Coliseum - Phoenix, AZ - September 28, 1981
October 7, 1981
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
El Paso County Coliseum - El Paso, TX - October 7, 1981
Diver Down Tour Rehearsals
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Zoetrope Studios - Pasadena, CA - June 27, 1982
July 16, 1982
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Greensboro Coliseum - Greensboro, NC - July 16, 1982
Sold Out On A Saturday Night
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Charlotte, NC - 7-17-82
August 19, 1982
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Pavilion - Chicago, IL - August 19, 1982
Hung 'Em High In Seattle
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Seattle, WA - Seattle Center Coliseum - Sept. 2, 1982
September 14, 1982
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Cow Palace - San Francisco, CA - September 14, 1982
September 15, 1982
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Cow Palace - San Francisco, CA - September 15, 1982
Four on the Floor
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
San Francisco Cow Palace - September 15, 1982
Live At The Cow Palace 1982
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
San Francisco Cow Palace - September 15, 1982
October 7, 1982
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
New Haven Coliseum - New Haven, CT - October 7, 1982
October 8, 1982
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Madison Square Garden - New York, NY - October 8, 1982
Hurricane Halen
2 Compact Discs
October 12, 1982 - Largo Maryland
Live In Largo '82
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Capital Center - Largo, MD - October 12, 1982
October 20, 1982
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA - October 20, 1982
October 26, 1982
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Maple Leaf Gardens - Toronto, ON - October 26, 1982
Shouting Out Loud
Compact Disc
Montreal Forum, October 27th 1982
Everybody Wants A Virgin
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Montreal Forum, October 27th 1982 (see notes)
Assaults Montreal
2 Compact Discs
Montreal, Canada 10/27/82 & Greensboro, NC, USA 8/25/81
Floor'em at the Forum
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Montreal Forum - Montreal, Quebec - October 27, 1982
Floor'em at the Forum
2 DVD's (Homemade DVDR)
Montreal Forum - Montreal, Quebec - October 27, 1982
Dallas Diver
2 Compact Discs
Reunion Arena - Dallas, TX - November 18, 1982
Where Did All The Good Times Go?
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Baton Rouge, LA - November 26, 1982
November 26, 1982
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Riverside Centroplex - Baton Rouge, LA - November 26, 1982
I'm So Glad
Compact Disc
Live in Caracus - 1/16/83
Caracas FM
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Poliedro de Caracas - Caracas, Venezuela - January 16, 1983
Caught in the Act!
2 LP's
Poliedro de Caracas - Caracas, Venezuela - January 16, 1983
Montevideo, Uruguay - February 5, 1983
Caught in the Act!
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Poliedro de Caracas - Caracas, Venezuela - January 16, 1983
Montevideo, Uruguay - February 5, 1983
Live In Sao Paulo, Brazil
2 VideoCD's (Homemade CD-R)
Sao Paulo Brazil - January 21, 1983
Diver Down Brazil
DVD (DVDR)
Sao Paulo, Brazil - January 21, 1983
Brazil Tour 83
DVD (Homemade DVDR)
Ibirapuera Gymnasium - Sao Paulo, BR - January 21, 1983
Sao Paulo, Brazil 1983
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Ibirapuera Gymnasium - São Paulo, Brazil - January 21, 1983
The Full Montevideo
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Auditorio El Cilandro - Montevideo, Uruguay - February 5, 1983
South American Assault
2 Compact Discs
Disc One/Disc Two 1-5 Montevideo, South America Uruguay 2/5/83
Disc Two 6-9 US Festival 83
Diver Down Uruguay
2 Compact Discs
Feb. 5, 1983 - Montevideo, Uruguay
May 29, 1983 - Devore California - US Fest
Look At All The People Here Tonight
Compact Disc
Tracks 1-4, US Festival 83
Tracks 5-9, Anaheim 78
Tracks 10-13, US festival 83
IN THE RAW
Compact Disc
1983 - soundboard
LATIN CONNECTION
2 LP's
Buenos Aires, Argentina - Feb. 11, 1983
Burnin' In Buenos Aires
DVD
Buenos Aires - February 11, 1983 & Bonus (see notes)
City Nights
2 LP's
1983 US Festival
Sea of Faces... Oceans of Beer
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
US Fest - May 29, 1983 - Glen Helen Park, San Bernardino CA
CALIFORNIA CALLING Listen To This Jimmy
2 Compact Discs
May 29, 1983 - US Festival - Devore, CA
US Festival '83
2 Compact Discs
May 29, 1983 - US Festival - Devore, CA
Old No. 7
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Glen Helen Park (US Festival) - San Bernadino, CA - May 29, 1983
Memorial Day '83
3 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Glen Helen Park - San Bernardino, CA - May 29, 1983 (and more)
Live and Alive
Compact Disc
New Haven 1986, Argentina 1983
Rape of the Vaults (Part 1)
DVD (Homemade DVDR)
"Panama" Video Outtakes
Rape of the Vaults (Part 2)
DVD (Homemade DVDR)
"Jump" Video Outtakes
January 21, 1984
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Hollywood Sportatorium - Hollywood, FL - January 21, 1984
January 29, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Jefferson Civic Center - Birmingham, AL - January 29, 1984
February 1, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Charlotte Coliseum - Charlotte, NC - February 1, 1984
February 3, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Greensboro Coliseum - Greensboro, NC - February 3, 1984
Back On The Road
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Roanoke Coliseum - Roanoke, VA - February 4, 1984
February 14, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Charlotte Coliseum - Charlotte, NC - February 14, 1984
March 7, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Civic Arena - Pittsburgh, PA - March 7, 1984
Cincinnati Gardens
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Cincinnati Gardens - Cincinnati, OH - March 9, 1984
March 21, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA - March 21, 1984
March 22, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Buffalo Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY - March 22, 1984
March 22, 1984 (remaster)
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Buffalo Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY - March 22, 1984
March 24, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Veterans Memorial Coliseum - New Haven, CT - March 24, 1984
Where's The Beef, Dave?
2 LP's
Audience Stereo Recording from Madison Square Garden, March 30, 1984
Panama
2 LP's
Madison Square Garden, New York - March 30th, 1984
Hot For New York
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Madison Square Garden, NYC 3/30/84
Live at M.S.G. 1984
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Madison Square Garden, NY - March 30, 1984
Halen Hearty
2 LP's
Madison Square Garden - New York, NY - March 31, 1984
March 31, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Madison Square Garden - New York, NY - March 31, 1984
Meadowlands, NJ 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
East Rutherford, New Jersey - April 2, 1984
April 5, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Cobo Hall - Detroit, MI - April 5, 1984
Rockin' NewsJunkie's Hometown
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Maple Leaf Gardens - Toronto, ON, Canada - April 17, 1984
Quarum at the Forum
2 VideoCDs (Homemade CD-R)
Montreal Forum Canada - April 19, 1984
Scorin' at the Forum
2 DVD's (Homemade DVDR)
The Forum - Montreal, Quebec, Canada - April 19, 1984
Summer Time
2 LP's
Quebec City Coliseum in Canada - April 21, 1984
Oh Canada!
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Quebec City, Quebec - April 21, 1984
April 21, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Le Colisee de Quebec - Quebec City, Quebec, Canada - April 21, 1984
Van Halen "Assaults Quebec"
2 Compact Discs
Quebec City Coliseum Quebec, Canada 4-21-1984
Karlsruhe, Germany 09/01/84 (*)
May 7, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Lawlor Events Center - Reno, NV - May 7, 1984
May 9, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Cow Palace - San Francisco, CA - May 9, 1984
May 10, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Cow Palace - San Francisco, CA - May 10, 1984
May 11, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
The Cow Palace - San Francisco, CA - May 11, 1984
Tai Chi in San Francisco
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
May 11, 1984 - Cow Palace - San Francisco CA
Hot For L.A.
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Los Angeles, CA - 5/13/1984
Jump To L.A.
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Great Western Forum - Inglewood, CA - May 13th, 1984
May 13, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Great Western Forum - Inglewood, CA - May 13, 1984
Sundown in San Diego
4 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
San Diego Sports Arena - San Diego, CA - May 20 & 21, 1984
Live at the San Diego Sports Arena
Compact Disc
San Diego Sports Arena - May 21, 1984
Madison 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Dane County Coliseum - Madison, WI - July 3, 1984
Tracks 6-12 of Disc 2 - see notes
July 3, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Dane County Coliseum - Madison, WI - July 3, 1984
Diamond Dave Goes Home Again
Compact Disc
July 6, 1984 - Indianapolis
Diamond Dave Goes Home Again
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Market Square Arena, Indianapolis IN, July 6th, 1984
Indecent In Indiana
2 Compact Discs (CD-R)
Market Square Arena, Indianapolis IN, July 6th, 1984
Big, Bad, Dave Goes Home
2 Compact Discs
Market Square Arena, Indianapolis IN, July 6th, 1984
July 7, 1984
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Roberts Staduim - Evansville, IN - July 7, 1984
Rumble At The Reunion
2 Compact Discs (Homemade CD-R)
Reunion Areana - Dallas, TX - July 16, 1984
Castel Donnington
LP
Donington Park - Leicestershire, England - August 18, 1984
LIVE AT THE MONSTERS OF ROCK
2 LP's
Donnington, Leicestershire UK - August 18, 1984
Donington Park
2 LP's
Donington Park - Leicestershire, England - August 18, 1984
Diamond Dave's Last Daze
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Donnington 8/18/84
High Jump Monster
2 Compact Discs
Donington Park Castle - England - August 18, 1984
MONSTERS OF ROCK 1984
2 LP's
Raasunda Stadium, Stockholm, Sweden 1984-08-25
Last 2 tracks - Whiskey a Go Go, 31 December 1977
Van Halen Rapes Stockholm
2 Compact Discs
Stockholm, Sweden 8/25/84
Castle Donnington, U.K. 8/18/84
Trade Secrets
Compact Disc
Soundboard: Stockholm, Sweden - 8/25/84
August 31, 1984
Compact Disc (Homemade CD-R)
Winterthur, Switzerland Schuetzenwiese (Monsters of Rock) - August 31, 1984
Wild In The Stadium
Compact Disc (CD-R)
Wildparkstadion, Karlsruhe, Germany - Sept. 1, 1984
Live In Germany 1984
LP
Germany (see notes)
Dave's Last Stand
2 Compact Discs
Zeppilinfeild in Nuremburg, Germany on 8/2/84
Niagra Falls Civic Centre in Niagra Falls, New York 9/6/78
Pretty Woman
2 Compact Discs
Disc 1:
Tracks 1-4: Recorded live in San Bernardino, California 1983
Tracks 5-12: Recorded live at Veterans Memorial Auditorium New Haven, Connecticut 1986
Disc 2:
Tracks 1-5: Recorded live at Vererans Memorial Auditorium New Haven, Connecticut 1986
Tracks 6-14: Recorded live at the Civic Auditorium Pasadena, California. Oct 15, 1977
Eruption
Compact Disc
San Bernardino CA 1983
Veterans Memorial Auditorium (New Haven CT) 1986

[ELVIS]

[78/84 guy]

Just listened to Panama again. Holy shit it sucks! At this point they need to just pipe in Dave's vocals from any other tour prior to 2005. Or just have Ralph back stage singing the shit while Dave lip syncs.

Or just release an 07/08 show were Ed isn't fucked up. Baltimore 08 is killer ! Ed included.Dave owned that tour. And Wolf was fine.

[78/84 guy]

Maybe in retrospect it's great production...

[78/84 guy]

I think you're projecting way too much reason there...

Ya think ?

[vanhalendlrband]

Sounds good to me, I don't get whats wrong with this release. It rocks. I listen to lots of shit and it sounds like Van Halen to me.

Already pre-ordered the box set done and done. Dave 4 life! I want more new albums. Live or not-live.

[Fairwrning]

At this point I gotta agree with whoever said this was sabotage on Dave..thats why he is under the radar right now..somewhere Sammy is laughing his ass off..

[Fairwrning]

sounds good to me, i don't get whats wrong with this release. It rocks. I listen to lots of shit and it sounds like van halen to me.

Already pre-ordered the box set done and done. Dave 4 life! I want more new albums. Live or not-live.

liar!!!

[78/84 guy]

At this point I gotta agree with whoever said this was sabotage on Dave..thats why he is under the radar right now..somewhere Sammy is laughing his ass off..

So is Mike.

[DONNIEP]

this was sabotage

I'm tellin' yall it's SABOTAGE!!!

[Fairwrning]

Does Dave suck it up and tour? I would say probably but would love to see him say a big FU to Vh and record a solo disc.

[DONNIEP]

Does Dave suck it up and tour? I would say probably but would love to see him say a big FU to Vh and record a solo disc.

And then I want to see Sam and Mike say "Go fuck your momma" when Ed calls them up to try and salvage what's left of his miserable career. Then I want Ed and Al and Wolfie to tour as Van Halen as a trio so I can go to the show and laugh like I've never laughed before.

Or they could just bring Mike back and crank his mic up really loud to try and cover up for Dave's "neeeyowwwww" he likes to do now.

[Fairwrning]

Dave has a record done with john 5 right?...Add MA to that band and roll on

[DONNIEP]

Dave has a record done with john 5 right?...Add MA to that band and roll on

They recorded that over a year ago. But yeah, Mikey and Dave and two more great musicians and it would sound a hell of a lot more like Van Halen than the current VH does. Then again, unless Dave puts some work in on the voice....even Mikey can't cover up all that.

Who knows..Well, Dave knows. He knows if he can sing the songs or if he's just screwin around, not really trying, etc. Ah, I'll wait to see if this "tour" materializes. Then I'll watch some crappy youtubes and read the set list and then decide if I want to go see em again. I'm sure Dave could tune up his pipes. We'll see if he does.

[twonabomber]

These guys crucify this release, same as every other public outlet is doing to it.

Unless Ed and the boys aren't listening, or they have ulterior motives, I can't believe they will go through with the release of this thing.

Those discs are pressed, the artwork is printed, and they're boxed up and sitting on a shipping dock somewhere. This ain't like the Super Bowl, where both teams have "champions" shirts printed and then the loser's shirts get sent to some tribe in the jungle somewhere...this shit is too far along, it is happening.

Here's me trying to make some sense of the world's most puzzling/frustrating band (welcome to VH fandom baby!!). Based on the rumors we're hearing about shows this summer, I'm guessing they wanted some product to tour behind as the reunion angle from 07-08 wasn't going to cut it and touring in support of ADKOT has run its course. There is some precedence here from the Samburglar era when they released the "live" album between FUCK and Balance and toured in support of it. The problem with that is that it's 2015, not 1993. The other problem is that "new" release aside, this really is just an extension of the the ADKOT tour and unless they're willing to update the stage show, set list and Dave gets in better form vocally, there will be a lot of "been there, done that" feelings for this series of shows. Maybe you can get away with this in '93, but they're pushing it in 2015.

Why the 2013 Tokyo show? I think 1993 once again offers insight. The show from the 1993 release was from their previous tour, i.e., a more recent show, so i think they went that route again. Why not a show from 2012? If I had to guess, they either didn't professionally record any of those shows, or if they did, perhaps the show(s) they recorded would've required extensive vocal enhancements given Dave's vocal struggles on that tour.

I've had my share of sport with this release, but I honestly thought Dave's vocals were ok for this show, based on what I saw/heard on the Tubes. I mentioned it elsewhere, but the larger issue is that this release is what I called "the lazy middle ground". They wanted to tour this summer but wanted to tour in support of something instead of just another "oldies/hits" tour (even though that's basically what they're doing anyway), so they release this live album. Here's an idea- PUT OUT A NEW FUCKING ALBUM, THEN YOU'LL HAVE A LEGITIMATE REASON TO TOUR!!!

Or tour behind the remasters, and do what the Stones did in '02: Play a bunch of hits, then in the middle of the set play four songs from just one album. Switch these up every night...a Fair Warning night, WACF, etc. Hell they already play four songs from VH 1 and almost the same from 1984.

I'd say play one album in it's entirety and then a bunch of hits, but I doubt that most of us would be satisfied with that.

You mean anonymous assholes on YouTube and their opinions should govern my decision making/thought processes?

As opposed to the anonymous assholes here?

I now know why Dave put a ship on the cover...

Because that ship has motherfucking sailed?

Or just release an 07/08 show were Ed isn't fucked up. Baltimore 08 is killer ! Ed included.Dave owned that tour. And Wolf was fine.

Montreal '07. Best of the four I saw that tour.

[DLR Bridge]

This ain't like the Super Bowl, where both teams have "champions" shirts printed and then the loser's shirts get sent to some tribe in the jungle somewhere...this shit is too far along, it is happening.

Spit my beer our funny. Thank you!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Hahahaha....

As if Edward Lodewijk could seriously find what the fans think....

Does anyone honestly think that if you sat EVH down in front of a laptop without a browser opened he could:

1) Launch a browser, ANY browser
2) Do a search, ANY search for any Van Halen topic
3) Find any comments about said Van Halen topic

But see, here's the kicker: Wolf KNOWS.....

That young man who wore only one shirt the entire last tour KNOWS.....

He grew up with the Internet.... You know he lurks on here and the Links and VHND.....

Hell, Dave knows too, he's got a staff of peeps.....

The only thing in Dave's case is whether those peeps are actually telling Dave what he NEEDS TO HEAR.....

[WARF]

Hahahaha....

As if Edward Lodewijk could seriously find what the fans think....

Does anyone honestly think that if you sat EVH down in front of a laptop without a browser opened he could:

1) Launch a browser, ANY browser
2) Do a search, ANY search for any Van Halen topic
3) Find any comments about said Van Halen topic

But see, here's the kicker: Wolf KNOWS.....

That young man who wore only one shirt the entire last tour KNOWS.....

He grew up with the Internet.... You know he lurks on here and the Links and VHND.....

Hell, Dave knows too, he's got a staff of peeps.....

The only thing in Dave's case is whether those peeps are actually telling Dave what he NEEDS TO HEAR.....

Eddie Van Halen has never told a lie.

Wolfgang Van Halen is the greatest bass player of all time

Dave sounds brilliant on the new live Tokyo cd.

[DLR Bridge]

Does Dave suck it up and tour? I would say probably but would love to see him say a big FU to Vh and record a solo disc.

That would involve Dave going back down to House Of Blues sized venues, which me thinks he no likey.

And besides, if he were the type of artist that was down with having a cult following only, I'd think he'd start showing his head right here every now and then.

[DONNIEP]

Wolfgang Van Halen is the greatest bass player of all time

You said that right. I can't wait for him to take over Van Halen when Ed and Al finally retire. How awesome will that be??

[WARF]

Tremonti is the second coming of Led Zeppelin....

[ELVIS]

That would involve Dave going back down to House Of Blues sized venues, which me thinks he no likey.

That's gonna happen regardless...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

That would involve Dave going back down to House Of Blues sized venues, which me thinks he no likey.

And besides, if he were the type of artist that was down with having a cult following only, I'd think he'd start showing his head right here every now and then.

I saw DLR at the HOB in Vegas in '06, we had a great time....

[DONNIEP]

Tremonti is the second coming of Led Zeppelin....

Don't tell anybody this, but I heard he's in negotiations to resurrect The Beatles, Wings, Molly Hatchet, Culture Club, and the EEAS band!

[DONNIEP]

I saw DLR at the HOB in Vegas in '06, we had a great time....

I've seen Dave in smaller venues too. He still put on a great show.

[Von Halen]

I saw DLR at the HOB in Vegas in '06, we had a great time....

I've seen him in a bunch of small venues. Hell, I've seen him at State Fairs and Casino's on Indian Reservations in the middle of nowhere. Made no difference in the quality of the show.