Atlas Music Group Signs the Van Halen Brothers

[Va Beach VH Fan]

No earthly clue what implications this has on the past, present or future of the band, but whatever....

http://www.billboard.com/articles/bu...-halen-sonyatv

Publishing Briefs: Atlas Music Group Sign Eddie & Alex Van Halen, Sony/ATV & Spotify Ink European Licensing Deal
By Ed Christman | February 18, 2015 4:11 AM EST

The Atlas Music Group continues to make moves to put the firm at the forefront of the music publishing map. In its latest action, it has signed Eddie and Alex Van Halen to an exclusive worldwide publishing administration deal.

The deal covers Van Halen's entire catalog except for the last album, A Different Kind of Truth.

"This deal has been a long time coming," Atlas Music Group CEO Rich Stumpf told Billboard. "I have been after Irvin Azoff [the manager for the brothers] and Peter Paterno [the lawyer for the brothers], for five years to find out if there would ever be an opportunity to work with the Van Halen catalog. They are my favorite all-time band so this is kind of a surreal moment where my professional and personal lives are coming together."

Now that he has landed his dream band, the work begins. "We will give their music the proper push for synchronizations in films, TV and commercials," Stump says. "This is a premium catalog, so we will look for the right films and brand advertisers to place their music with."

As part of that move, Stumpf says they will focus on opportunities to reach the younger music consumers. "That is how you maintain the value of the [legacy artists] catalog by reaching the younger generations that come along," he says. "A lot of the decision makers themselves are young so we will have to educate them on the importance of Van Halen, and not just their many hits."

The deal now brings the Atlas Music Group catalog to about 4,000 songs, including the Combustion Music catalog the company acquired in September 2014. As part of that deal, Atlas and the Nashville publisher created a going forward joint-venture.

Consequently, the company now has 25-30 active songwriters, with 15 staffers in three locations, New York, Los Angeles and Nashville.

"This is the most important band we have signed; they are legends," says Stumpf, who launched Atlas in 2013. "It speaks volumes that after being with one company for 30 years that they have chosen to move to an independent music publisher that is trying to do things a little differently…This is an important moment not just for us for the independent music publishing community."

Previously, the duo's music publishing catalog had been handled by Warner/Chappell Music. "We will help ensure that new generations of music listeners are keenly aware of just how important Van Halen is to the music world and how incredible their songwriting is," Stumpf said in a statement.

[Satan]

Sounds like the primary "goal" of this Atlas company is to whore the music out in commercials. I'm sure Velveeta is happy to know they can finally license the Van Hagar ballads.

[qikgts]

Well, things can't get any worse then they are now. Hopefully something good comes from it.

[ELVIS]

Van Halen am DONE !!

Put a fork in 'em...

[VAiN]

So Ed & Al control all of the CVH catalog? Dave has no say?

[Jérôme Frenchise]

So Ed & Al control all of the CVH catalog? Dave has no say?

This is exactly what I'm wondering about. I know Michael Anthony gave up (had to give up) his rights, but thought Dave still had his own...

Did he have to give them up at some point between 2007 and now?

Anything related to that in Dave's site blackout?

[Von Halen]

The guy says he signed the "band", but it clearly states he signed Ed and Alex. No mention of Wolf, or Dave.

Hopefully this dude can talk them into releasing the old shows. That's really all I'm down to giving a fuck about, with these guys.

[Satan]

So Ed & Al control all of the CVH catalog? Dave has no say?

Dave has a separate publishing deal, but I wouldn't be surprised if Atlas is talking to him too, because it would be a little difficult to license these songs out to movies, tv, or commercials without being able to use the lyrics. "Eruption", "Spanish Fly", and "Cathedral" can only take you so far......

Same could be said of Hagar when the cheese companies come to call, for that matter.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

The guy says he signed the "band", but it clearly states he signed Ed and Alex. No mention of Wolf, or Dave.

So Dave has no say, does he?

Hopefully this dude can talk them into releasing the old shows. That's really all I'm down to giving a fuck about, with these guys.

So do I, and it just seems they don't realize how much more §§§§ they would make with old live footage than with the "definitive" concert they're about to release.

[Satan]

The guy says he signed the "band", but it clearly states he signed Ed and Alex. No mention of Wolf, or Dave.

Hopefully this dude can talk them into releasing the old shows. That's really all I'm down to giving a fuck about, with these guys.

This is a publishing deal, so it probably wouldn't have any significant impact on emptying the vaults. But since Ed seems to be in "cashing in on the past" mode now, it's only logical that archival releases are the next step. He has to be aware of how well this has worked for Pearl Jam, the Stones, the Dead, Dylan, and everyone else who has released volumes of live & studio archives.

[Von Halen]

This is a publishing deal, so it probably wouldn't have any significant impact on emptying the vaults. But since Ed seems to be in "cashing in on the past" mode now, it's only logical that archival releases are the next step. He has to be aware of how well this has worked for Pearl Jam, the Stones, the Dead, Dylan, and everyone else who has released volumes of live & studio archives.

Yeah, I doubt a "publishing deal" would want to have anything to do with publishing their vaulted stuff.

This guy admits VH is his favorite band ever. If he is 1/32 the fan I am, he knows where the real value in this deal lies. He admitted one portion of it. I would bet money he has it in his head to get into the vaulted stuff.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Yeah, I doubt a "publishing deal" would want to have anything to do with publishing their vaulted stuff.

This guy admits VH is his favorite band ever. If he is 1/32 the fan I am, he knows where the real value in this deal lies. He admitted one portion of it. I would bet money he has it in his head to get into the vaulted stuff.

Or, you can whisper it into his virtual ear....

https://twitter.com/richstumpf

[ZahZoo]

The guy says he signed the "band", but it clearly states he signed Ed and Alex. No mention of Wolf, or Dave.

Hopefully this dude can talk them into releasing the old shows. That's really all I'm down to giving a fuck about, with these guys.

If you follow the active LLC structures for Ed and Al... It paints a very clear picture as to ownership of the Van Halen Catalog.

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Calif.../45963143.aspx

Look up Dave and there's no active linkages into Van Halen music LLC's. Whatever Dave has a say in is handled via separate contract agreements... but what's clear his name isn't listed as an officer, member or anything that's active today with the Van Halen name attached.

I seriously doubt this Publishing deal has any hooks into unreleased material... it might if/when any of it gets released. But that option sure hasn't been on the table yet.

[ELVIS]

You think Ed thinks it's too late for a new singer ??

[FORD]

You think Ed thinks it's too late for a new singer ??

Maybe he can make an album with Alex Jones, and call it "A Different Kind Of Crisis Actor"

[Kristy]

Publishing Briefs: Atlas Music Group Sign Eddie & Alex Van Halen, Sony/ATV & Spotify Ink European Licensing Deal
By Ed Christman | February 18, 2015 4:11 AM EST

So in clearer words, they are now media whores for Sony. I have no problem with this for if they signed with Columbia back in '78 or so the fans would have been treated better in terms of unreleased material seeing how Sony loves to re-release and remaster just about everything on their entire fucking "Legacy" series. Still, this being Sony and all it feels a wee bit like making a deal with the devil.*






*and the first one of you cretins who puts up 'Running With The Devil' to be cute will fucking die.

[Von Halen]

You think Ed thinks it's too late for a new singer ??

I wouldn't put it past him. But, based on his comment at the Smithsonian, it sounded to me like he considers Dave the singer of Van Halen. Just the way he stated the comment. I think it sucks he doesn't know where Dave is, but I don't think he knew exactly where Dave was in the jungle, when they had to pluck him out for the US Festival.

[fryingdutchman]

Sounds like the primary "goal" of this Atlas company is to whore the music out in commercials. I'm sure Velveeta is happy to know they can finally license the Van Hagar ballads.

Yup....additional retirement planning for the VH brothers. They will be raking in the cash-ola...

[fryingdutchman]

So Ed & Al control all of the CVH catalog? Dave has no say?

I don't think Dave has a say in a goddamn thing about this band anymore.

It's the "Three Twins" and the lead singer is irrelevant.

[Kristy]

I don't think Dave has a say in a goddamn thing about this band anymore.

Don't cry. Go to your local Panera and buy some coffee.

[FORD]

Does Panera have decent coffee? There's a Panera on the west end of town for a few years now, but I still haven't made it in there yet. Probably because I usually hit the Chipotle across the street if I'm in that area & hungry.

[ELVIS]

Starving children around the world and you liberals suck down the way overpriced designer coffee bullshit...

[ELVIS]

I wouldn't put it past him. But, based on his comment at the Smithsonian, it sounded to me like he considers Dave the singer of Van Halen.

Maybe contractually...

What do you think about Dave's site being blacked out ??

I think it's a bad sign...

[Von Halen]

What do you think about Dave's site being blacked out ??

I think it's a bad sign...

I don't think it has anything to do with VH. Maybe he's changing servers or doing a redesign. Well, not him, but whoever runs his stuff. I don't think Dave even thinks too much about the Internet, or social media.

[ELVIS]

Sure he does, with the Dave Show...

[Von Halen]

Does Panera have decent coffee?

They're no Tim Horton's.

[Von Halen]

Sure he does, with the Dave Show...

Ok. If you say so.

[FORD]

Starving children around the world and you liberals suck down the way overpriced designer coffee bullshit...

Nah, most days I grind my own beans at home and make the coffee there. But every now and then, the amount of blood in the caffeine stream becomes a bit too heavy when I'm out running around, and when that happens, thank Jesus for Batdorf & Bronson. Or Tully's. Not Starfucks though, unless I'm absolutely desperate.

[FORD]

They're no Tim Horton's.

Nearest Tim Hortons here are on the other side of the border, so that's a little out of the way for coffee. But if I'm up north, I usually go there for breakfast on occasion.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Nearest Tim Hortons here are on the other side of the border, so that's a little out of the way for coffee. But if I'm up north, I usually go there for breakfast on occasion.

I'm lucky, they have Tim Horton's on two of the Navy bases here, closest one is only 5 miles away....

By the way, I noticed in today's birthdays that today is Redfire's (HOP's little brother) birthday, AND HE'S FUCKING 33 !!

I remember when that fucker was 17 !!!

[Kristy]

Does Panera have decent coffee?

I'd say it's way better than StarSucks and their corporate swill and have been going there from time to time on way to school. Prices are about equal. Their bread is awesome especially their Jewish Rye. No preservatives or bleaching chemicals or any of that shit.

[Kristy]

Just remembered. Had a roommate a while back who worked at Panera who would bring home the shit that didn't sell and/or the donation truck didn't want. Think they're coffee supplier was a company called "Distant Lands" if memory serves. Not sure if they are the same supplier to StarBarf's. Would so suck if they are.

[Von Halen]

Just remembered. Had a roommate a while back who worked at Panera who would bring home the shit that didn't sell and/or the donation truck didn't want. Think they're coffee supplier was a company called "Distant Lands" if memory serves. Not sure if they are the same supplier to StarBarf's. Would so suck if they are.

Did you guys have lesbian sex?

[DONNIEP]

Did I hear somebody say lesbian sex?

[Kristy]

Did you guys have lesbian sex?

Definitely. With Trollvis' wife.

[DLR Bridge]

Atlas music to shitty corporate coffee to lesbian sex all within the first page. I'd say the Army's firing on all 8 cylinders today!

[Kristy]

Yes, DLR Edwina and Alice signed a deal and yes,


Well, someone had to say it.

[ELVIS]

Did you guys have lesbian sex?

How can guys have lesbian sex ??

[VHscraps]

This is exactly what I'm wondering about. I know Michael Anthony gave up (had to give up) his rights, but thought Dave still had his own...

Did he have to give them up at some point between 2007 and now?

Anything related to that in Dave's site blackout?

All the 2000 Remasters list all publishing on all VH tunes as Van Halen Music / Diamond Dave Music.

The brothers have just switched to a new publisher (presumably Mike had to sort out his publishing, or it remains where it was, with Warner Chappell administering it under whatever company Mike has established to protect his copyrights. He never sold off his songwriting credits).

I expect that on the new remasters that it will say something like this:

All songs written by E. Van Halen, D.l. Roth, A. Van Halen, M. Anthony. All songs published by Van Halen Music (Atlas), Diamond Dave Music, and Mad Anthony Tunes ... or something like that.

i.e., I don't think this implies anything about Ed and Al having control of publishing. Dave is too smart to sell away his publishing, you'd think ...

[kwame k]

Sherlock Holmes couldn't crack the Curious Case of the Van Halen's!