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    Somebody posted earlier, it was the same chick both shows doing the " random " fan from the crowd bit...thats just how fuckin mind fucked Vh is..to try to pull that shit as a complete spur of the moment deal..and NOBODY connected to the band said it was a stupid idea and not to do it..

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    Well, sweet, tap dancing baby Jesus, the Van Halen brain trust has chosen to embrace van driving soccer moms. Christ, this is like KISS going grunge and Aerosmith turning into mush. I swear to God, if the next album has a power ballad on it, I'm jumping head first into a wood chipper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
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    I had to go sit down in another room and weep a bit... after viewing those fine ladies in the vid,.. and I haven't listened to GGB in years....all better now.

    Ok, Here how it go..... I figured if Ellen was going to bring VH on and deliver a extra vid on her site I should at least sit thru her whole show and be involved.

    It was like Jerry Springer but without talented guests and interesting situations.

    Nah it was ok...I do feel a need to wash the gay off me I think I contracted due to being exposed for so long, but I also am afraid to be naked with myself due to the gay thing I mentioned earlier in this sentence.

    Good show ok times.

    Oh and the band was GRATE!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarathecarrot View Post
    I had to go sit down in another room and weep a bit... after viewing those fine ladies in the vid,.. and I haven't listened to GGB in years....all better now.

    Ok, Here how it go..... I figured if Ellen was going to bring VH on and deliver a extra vid on her site I should at least sit thru her whole show and be involved.

    It was like Jerry Springer but without talented guests and interesting situations.

    Nah it was ok...I do feel a need to wash the gay off me I think I contracted due to being exposed for so long, but I also am afraid to be naked with myself due to the gay thing I mentioned earlier in this sentence.

    Good show ok times.

    Oh and the band was GRATE!!
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    I'm giving credit where it's due. After watching all the DVRred (sp?) stuff, the extras on YouTube, all the footage from this week, I've come to a conclusion.

    Ed's got his shit together.

    I apologize for calling him a washed-up alcoholic piece of shit. I was wrong. He's playing his ass off, he looks genuinely happy, and I may consider seeing them this summer.

    Not buying the CD, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    Somebody posted earlier, it was the same chick both shows doing the " random " fan from the crowd bit...thats just how fuckin mind fucked Vh is..to try to pull that shit as a complete spur of the moment deal..and NOBODY connected to the band said it was a stupid idea and not to do it..
    I don't care much one way or the other but the dumb part of it is for Dave to pretend for 20 seconds to be telling her what to do.

    Not convincing the first time, second time it's silly.

    It's undeniable though that it worked with the live audience both times. If he did it every night on a tour though it would start to look like mental illness.

    Interesting aside the magician Penn Jillette says that the way to always spot a plant in the audience is that they always make a big deal about trying to work out how to get on and off the stage to 'act realistic' whereas a real audience member has no trouble because real people are all perfectly able to walk up and down a small set of steps without making a fuss.

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    Back to my doom and gloom. Apologies, but I get the sense that Dave is pushing out further with the "it's all about Dave " thing that helped torpedo the band before. I hear him talking about himself while stepping further out in front of the band and I swear I saw Ed shoot him a stink eye when he did. It was just a moment but I've seen that look before. I think Dave's ego is getting the best of him. That planted chick from the audience reeks of Roth style showbizz and it's coming off as cheesy. He ain't foolin anybody.
    Ed has got his shit together and is playing like a beast and Dave is subjecting him to this? Bad performance and cheap vaudeville?
    I see the possibility of a catastrophic meeting if roth doesn't reign himself in or get reigned in somehow.
    The bad vocals are understandable back when he was doing jumps, kicks, trampoline antics etc.etc. but now he is wiggling around the stage like some old gay Broadway choreographer ( the only thing missing is a yellow neck scarf) "all that jazz" anyone?
    And the vocal choices he making are bordering on insane.
    I'm a Dave supporter but If I wouldnt put up with this , I don't see how Ed is gonna.
    The worst thing is I'm starting to see is these horrible vocal runs reocurring in the same sections of the same songs like this is how Dave is singing these parts ON PURPOSE.

    I saw on Bart Walshs facebook page someone said(paraphrasing). "Hey Bart, I think Dave needs to rehearse more with the band. He sounds a little loose. Bart replied " oh it IS rehearsed!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    Somebody posted earlier, it was the same chick both shows doing the " random " fan from the crowd bit...thats just how fuckin mind fucked Vh is..to try to pull that shit as a complete spur of the moment deal..and NOBODY connected to the band said it was a stupid idea and not to do it..
    By your age you should know by now things like this have been apart of VH/Daves shtick since day one! Remember the "Bring the cameras out" "I'm going to F your girlfriend pal" "We're recording this for a radio interview" etc

    Thing is now with the net now we see from back then that's what he said in every city!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesfunk View Post
    I saw on Bart Walshs facebook page someone said(paraphrasing). "Hey Bart, I think Dave needs to rehearse more with the band. He sounds a little loose. Bart replied " oh it IS rehearsed!"
    Bart is not a fan though, some bad blood there I would guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carloscda View Post

    Thing is now with the net now we see from back then that's what he said in every city!
    Thats kinda what I meant by the comment..

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    He must know this though, maybe he see's it as theater.

    Do people watch Alice Cooper on YouTube and then complain that he got his head cut off the night before as well?

    There's a fine line between stupid and clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesfunk View Post
    Back to my doom and gloom. Apologies, but I get the sense that Dave is pushing out further with the "it's all about Dave " thing that helped torpedo the band before. I hear him talking about himself while stepping further out in front of the band and I swear I saw Ed shoot him a stink eye when he did. It was just a moment but I've seen that look before. I think Dave's ego is getting the best of him.
    If Ed has a problem with that then it's his ego that is the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    He must know this though, maybe he see's it as theater.

    Do people watch Alice Cooper on YouTube and then complain that he got his head cut off the night before as well?

    There's a fine line between stupid and clever.
    The head chopping thing is why people show up. At least some of them. No, probably all of them. But what Dave is doing makes no sense at all, considering he knows it's gonna be on TV and the interwebz. Putting on a play every night is a little different than pretending to pick a chick at random and dancing with her.

    Then again, maybe Dave really doesn't know how TV and the internet works. I wouldn't be surprised if his manager said "Dave, you can't do that every night. It's really cool and all, but you can't keep doing it. It's all over the internet." And Dave says "How the hell is that even possible? I've only done it twice in LA. At two different shows!"
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    I know what you have all been thinking: You cretins have been thinking, "Gee, with Kristy going to late evening into night classes has she had any time to listen to those new 1/4 remasters..?"

    Well, no.

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    They are on order so they'll be here in a couple of days.

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    Well good for you for actually waiting to hear something before reviewing it.

    I know what you are going to say but still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    The head chopping thing is why people show up. At least some of them. No, probably all of them. But what Dave is doing makes no sense at all, considering he knows it's gonna be on TV and the interwebz. Putting on a play every night is a little different than pretending to pick a chick at random and dancing with her.

    Then again, maybe Dave really doesn't know how TV and the internet works. I wouldn't be surprised if his manager said "Dave, you can't do that every night. It's really cool and all, but you can't keep doing it. It's all over the internet." And Dave says "How the hell is that even possible? I've only done it twice in LA. At two different shows!"
    I know the Alice reference is a stretch I'm just trying to understand it.

    I think Dave, Alex and Ed have lived in a bubble for so long now they are divorced from reality to a degree.

    Does Dave even have a manager?

    At this point they will feel that they know more than any manager because they've been doing it longer. Like every other band from their era they have also been screwed over a bunch of times. I get the impression that all of this means that any manager they do use better be a 'Yes man' or he won't last.

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    Wasn't going to review them. Eddie has some god damn originality.


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    I hardly ever look over at VH Links but it's interesting how much more positive they are about all of this.

    http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/thre...-4-2-15/page35

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    So...did Roth really run with him?


    Seems rather pointless to me seeing the dude has wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I hardly ever look over at VH Links but it's interesting how much more positive they are about all of this.
    They sound older than most of you. Did not think that was possible.

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    Hahaha.

    LOL.

    No on average they are a few years younger as they are more predominantly Van Hagar fans.

    Our membership is a bit more the waifs and strays, the outliers, free thinkers, drunks, stoners and angry people compared to their PTA demographic.

    These are generalizations of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
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    C-Dog is back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    So...did Roth really run with him?...
    Seems rather pointless to me seeing the dude has wings.

    I believe he was simply down with the devil. The euphemism made for a catchier chorus.

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    Is it just me or is Dave kinda talking a little classic Dave-ish on the Ellen performances? He seems a bit different to 2012/13/Rothshow era Dave. Maybe he's taken the not so subtle "hint" haha. He's doing that look at 0:07 he always did when he was being a smartass in the 80s haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l235eMwtHY and he's also doing that fast, excited panting style of talking after jump he always did in the 80s. Or am I just delirious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lesfunk View Post
    Back to my doom and gloom. Apologies, but I get the sense that Dave is pushing out further with the "it's all about Dave " thing that helped torpedo the band before. I hear him talking about himself while stepping further out in front of the band and I swear I saw Ed shoot him a stink eye when he did. It was just a moment but I've seen that look before. I think Dave's ego is getting the best of him. That planted chick from the audience reeks of Roth style showbizz and it's coming off as cheesy. He ain't foolin anybody.
    Ed has got his shit together and is playing like a beast and Dave is subjecting him to this? Bad performance and cheap vaudeville?
    I see the possibility of a catastrophic meeting if roth doesn't reign himself in or get reigned in somehow.
    The bad vocals are understandable back when he was doing jumps, kicks, trampoline antics etc.etc. but now he is wiggling around the stage like some old gay Broadway choreographer ( the only thing missing is a yellow neck scarf) "all that jazz" anyone?
    And the vocal choices he making are bordering on insane.
    I'm a Dave supporter but If I wouldnt put up with this , I don't see how Ed is gonna.
    The worst thing is I'm starting to see is these horrible vocal runs reocurring in the same sections of the same songs like this is how Dave is singing these parts ON PURPOSE.

    I saw on Bart Walshs facebook page someone said(paraphrasing). "Hey Bart, I think Dave needs to rehearse more with the band. He sounds a little loose. Bart replied " oh it IS rehearsed!"
    I think Al is loving it because I don't think Al likes Dave at all. Al knows just give Roth enough rope he will hang himself but the fans wanted it and the shows will sell tickets and just let Dave do himself in and then it will end and the Van Halens won't be the bad guys. Al will make the big tour money and sink Roth at the same time. Then Dave will go on Dancing with the Stars next. That's where he really should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Dave's inability to fit in Van Halen is what's more troubling...
    Yeah I don't get his deal at all. The fucking around is one thing. The complete lack of trying too sing is another. I swear I think every time Wolf starts singing Dave goes into that next register to try's to drown him out. Did he do that to Mike ?? He needs too get it together and fast ! But he won't. I was hoping he was sick in 2012. But it looks like he just got plain lazy. I think he might be done sadly. I get he is 60 but come on. Too good one song then shit the second ? That's laziness straight up.

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    Maybe Dave gets bored with the songs and just does whatever but yeah he does look out of place. I really don't think Dave gives a shit what anyone thinks ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I think Al is loving it because I don't think Al likes Dave at all. Al knows just give Roth enough rope he will hang himself but the fans wanted it and the shows will sell tickets and just let Dave do himself in and then it will end and the Van Halens won't be the bad guys. Al will make the big tour money and sink Roth at the same time. Then Dave will go on Dancing with the Stars next. That's where he really should be.
    An interesting hypothesis. I was actually starting to think the opposite recently. Perhaps they at least have a little bit more in common these days. Have you heard Al's drum solo? From the very danceable, Tito Puente drum patterns to the orchestra hits to the the Copa Cabana styled piano he's playing along with, I got the impression that Dave and Al's musical tastes may be closer now than back in the day.

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    Yup Dave has heard that and used it for his little dance routine giving Al a chance to show his chops too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicpnk47 View Post
    Maybe Dave gets bored with the songs and just does whatever but yeah he does look out of place. I really don't think Dave gives a shit what anyone thinks ...
    I believe his auto-pilot thinks he's flying an F-18 but his vocal cords are rigged for an old Cessna 150...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I think Al is loving it because I don't think Al likes Dave at all. Al knows just give Roth enough rope he will hang himself but the fans wanted it and the shows will sell tickets and just let Dave do himself in and then it will end and the Van Halens won't be the bad guys. Al will make the big tour money and sink Roth at the same time. Then Dave will go on Dancing with the Stars next. That's where he really should be.
    Dave has always embraced dance VH was engineered to produce the dance beat music that brought women and men together and the occasional threesome if you played the right tracs..lol.....some of you sound so fucking strange.

    Dave would do fine on DWTS they only showcase people who would bring in rating increase over last months show Dave has some draw in that respect.

    Would I watch, hell no I don't watch that show....or any TV for that matter... I also don't watch ED noodling at NAMM ....things that don't interest me are probably none of my business anyway.

    Would Dave do DWTS I doubt it most of those people are wash outs ordered by their studio contracts to do the show to pay off debt.

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    I believe his auto-pilot thinks he's flying an F-18 but his vocal cords are rigged for an old Cessna 150...

    No, No...No... my man,.. more like a old WWII F4U Corsair as compared to the X-15 he was thru most of his career.

    A Cessna would be Bieber and all other little back room boys singing thru the box.

    Give DLR some credit.

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    Would Dave do DWTS I doubt it most of those people are wash outs ordered by their studio contracts to do the show to pay off debt.
    good it's not 2002...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidLeeNatra View Post
    good it's not 2002...
    If you are implying DLR had debt I don't believe for one second he has ever been broke.

    He has always been thrifty his hobbies are not money spenders.

    I believe the Mojo Dojo house was free and clear back in the mid 80...that translates to taxes and utilities only.

    He may have jumped over 10 tax brackets since 2006.

    before that he probably could only spend 100K per year without touching his principal holdings.

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