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    Co-pilot Andreas Lubitz trawled suicide and gay websites before crash

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    The 27-year-old co-pilot Andreas Lubitz believed to have deliberately crashed Germanwings Flight 4U 9525 plane, killing 149 passengers, trawled gay porn websites and sites relating to suicide, investigators have revealed.

    He also feared losing his eyesight and was suffering from depression.

    A police source in Dusseldorf revealed: "We have a team disassembling his computer, and that of his girlfriend, because the information that we received was that he trawled the dark side of the web visiting, among other things, sites containing gay porn, suicide themes and sexual perversions."

    The reports emerged after police started examining documents and a computer from his flat in Dusseldorf – the same one where ripped-up sick notes were discovered in the rubbish.

    At a press conference, Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said: "We have asked for information from the German investigation on both his profession and personal background'.

    He added: "He [Lubitz] did this for a reason which we don't know why, but we can only deduct that he destroyed this plane."

    Troubled personal life

    The pilot was the target of gossip about his sexuality after briefly working as a flight attendant.

    Lubitz was given the nickname "Tomato Andy": a German term for repressed homosexuals.

    The anti-gay slur is based on the fact that while a tomato is thought to be a vegetable, it is really a fruit, according to Gay Star News.

    Reports have suggested he was troubled by his sexuality and also seeking treatment for vision problems. Lubitz had recent hospital treatment for his eyesight, according to officials close to the German investigation.

    It was also revealed that the 27-year-old was treated by four psychiatrists in the months leading up to the fatal plane crash, reported the Sun.

    A "small mountain" of drugs believed to be antidepressants were found at Lubitz's apartment.

    Antidepressants are used to treat range of conditions, including anxiety and panic disorders, obsessive-compulsive behaviour, phobias, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), chronic pain, as well as moderate and severe depression.

    Mystery medical condition

    However, officials at Dusseldorf University Hospital stated that they had treated Lubitz on 10 March, but not for depression. They also refused to confirm whether the pilot had been a patient at its specialist eye clinic.

    Police also found a diary at Lubitz's Dusseldorf flat in which he wrote of his fears that he would be "found out" and lose his job.

    "I have too much work and I am not able to do my job properly," he noted.

    Ralf Herrenbrück, Dusseldorf attorney-general said no suicide note was found by investigators and there was "no reason to suggest political or religious motives" at Lubitz's home.

    "However, documents of a medical nature were recovered which refer to an existing illness and treatment by doctors," he added.

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    Could antidepressants have caused the Germanwings tragedy?

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    The New York Times reported yesterday that German authorities recovered “antidepressants” from Lubitz’s apartment on Thursday. This fact has renewed concerns that some drugs used to treat depression may increase suicidal ideations, aggression, and violence in some patients. Several SSRIs carry black box warnings about the potential for increased suicide risk when starting the drugs, particularly in adolescents and young adults.



    During any one year, 6.9 percent of Americans will experience depression, a multi-faceted disorder characterized by some combination of prolonged or recurrent episodes of intense sadness and emptiness, lack of self-worth, and inability to enjoy previously rewarding activities, among others. That’s about 22 million people among the current U.S. population. While depression occurs more frequently in women, the disease strikes across socioeconomic boundaries, due likely to a combination of genetic and environmental causes.

    The challenge is that the disorder is often accompanied by suicidal ideations and suicide attempts, accounting for why several years passed after SSRI drug approvals before an increased risk of suicide could be shown statistically.

    Major aviation concern is sedative and cognitive side effects

    The aviation industry is not immune to pilots experiencing depression. But each country’s central aviation authority has been operating under policies and procedures for all manner of medical issues to ensure that aircraft, especially commercial aircraft, are operated by the most competent and uncompromised professionals.

    Before the SSRIs, airline pilots were disqualified from operating aircraft if being treated for depression. The first drugs to treat depression, the tricyclic antidepressants, had strongly sedating side effects and could also cause problems with balance, concentration, and blood pressure. The liability of pilots taking tricyclics, such as imipramine or amitriptyline, was these side effects that could interfere with operating an airplane.


    The SSRIs, first introduced in 1987 by Eli Lilly as Prozac (fluoxetine), were a major advance because of their reduced side effect profile relative to tricyclics or another drug class, the monoamine oxidase inhibitors. As early as 1989, the Australian aviation authority, CASA, allowed pilots with depression to fly who were well-managed on an antidepressant drug.

    U.S. pilots successfully treated for depression can fly under certification procedure

    But the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration was concerned that these drugs still had sedating and cognitive effects that might interfere with the safe operation of commercial aircraft. In 2006, the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA) petitioned the FAA to recognize that pilots equally suffer from depression and can be treated successfully by proposing a detailed medical and psychological strategy to qualify such pilots with a medical certificate.

    It took until 2010 for the FAA to formally enact such guidelines. In short, pilots with major depressive disorder and some related conditions could apply for such medical certification if they wre evaluated to have stable disease while taking one of four antidepressants: fluoxetine (Prozac), sertraline (Zoloft), citalopram (Celexa), and escitalopram (Lexapro). When these rules were established, the FAA gave a six-month amnesty period for pilots to come forward who were already being treated for depression.

    Pilots are evaluated by independent aviation medical examiners (AMEs), often pairs of psychiatrists and psychologists around the country who have passed FAA medical practice certification. This medical system dates back to 1974 when the FAA began addressing the issue of pilots impaired by alcohol and their recovery. Together with the NIH National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism instituted the Human Intervention Motivation Study (HIMS) to establish a system to rehabilitate pilots with alcoholism. By 2004, the system could boast a 85 to 90 percent two-year sobriety rate among pilots in recovery; estimates for Alcoholic Anonymous among the general population is five to 10 percent.

    Andreas Lubitz and SSRIs

    A variety of conspiracy theorists often found online have suggested a role of psychotropic drugs used to treat mental illness and the behavior of mass murderers, dating back to the 1998 Columbine High School killings in Littleton, Colorado. Even CBS News presented a case that considered whether Zoloft (sertraline) was responsible for a 12-year-old South Carolina boy shooting his grandparents to death and setting their home on fire.

    The problem with conclusively identifying a drug as a cause of homicidal behavior is that the diseases being treated are so varied in their causes and that the underlying disease might, itself alone, be a major driver of committing murder. Investigators, and family and friends of the victims, undoubtedly want answers for how this particular tragedy could have occurred and been prevented.

    Assuming that Lubitz was taking an SSRI drug, we still have no way to conclude that the drug contributed to what appears to be his intentional act of mass murder and suicide. For one, we don’t yet know if what investigators are calling “depression” was complicated by any symptoms of psychosis that might have compromised or confused Lubitz’s reasoning and perspective on reality. Unless DNA testing could identify human tissue belonging to Lubitz at the crash site, we don’t even know if he was taking the drug or drugs at the time of the crash.

    Readers should remember that I’m a PhD pharmacologist, not a board-certified psychiatrist, although I taught pharmacy students for a decade about antidepressant drugs and other agents that act on the central nervous system. As a scientist who is looking afar at much of the same evidence as you, the reader, I can’t help but be compelled by the long amount of time that Lubitz apparently had to reverse his decision to direct the plane downward and repeatedly refuse the pilot readmission to the cockpit. His actions appear to have been measured, calculated.

    There are no objective, real-time clinical measures for depression, suicidal ideation, or homicidal tendencies – nothing like a LDL-cholesterol number or blood pressure reading.

    I would love to answer, “Why?” If Lubitz was suicidal, why did he not take some other action to end his own life without taking 149 innocent people with him.

    I’m afraid that the answer, if ever found, will be more complex than, “the drug made him do it.”

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    A retarded article. The fact is that he should never have been flying, he was told by his doctor to report that he could no longer fly to his supervisors, which obviously he didn't. The problem isn't the antidepressants, the problem is their system...

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    We might as well say that maybe gay porn caused the crash, in which case I'd be happy to know that nurse boy isn't an airline pilot...

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