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    New EVH interview (Washington Post, April 2nd)

    So, it seems that the secret project was to release the band's original WB demos - but, apparently, the tapes are lost. Then they tried working on bootlegs from the club days, didn't like what they heard, and finally they let Dave pick a live show - Tokyo Dome.


    Q: You just released Van Halen’s first live record with Dave, “Tokyo Dome in Concert.”

    A: We were trying to figure out what to do since we didn’t have time to put a studio record together.

    [My son Wolfgang] is working on his own project. Dave is off doing his thing. What I originally wanted to do was remix the original 25 song demos. That would have been really cool. But the tapes are lost. They are gone. So that was out the window.

    Then we started digging through bootlegs from the club days. We tried our best to make those sound good, but ultimately it wasn’t good enough to put out. The quality of the recording was so bad that we tried to enhance them and make them better. Once we made them better, you lost that fly-on-the-wall aspect of it. It just didn’t jive. So we decided, “How about a live record?”


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    I call bullshit on this one. They just didn't want to release anything with Mikey on it. That's just my opinion. Call me nuts, but that's what I happen to think.
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    sounds reasonable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidLeeNatra View Post
    sounds reasonable...
    What, Ed's answer or mine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philouze View Post
    I call bullshit on this one. They just didn't want to release anything with Mikey on it. That's just my opinion. Call me nuts, but that's what I happen to think.
    Nuts.
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    "the tapes are lost" ...

    Yeah, sure.

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    Now THAT... is horrible news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Nuts.
    The day will come where you'll say "he was right".. Maybe.

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    So that is why someone was digging at Dimebag's grave?


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    Quote Originally Posted by philouze View Post
    What, Ed's answer or mine?
    both...it's Ed...

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    Sad thing is, even if his story is bullshit, he's going to stick with it forever. Someone should get WB on the phone and ask if their copies of the demos are safe and sound. I'm sure they are.

    As far as the bootlegs goes, this knucklehead should hear the quality of some of the stuff on the Beatles Anthology set. No one ever complained about how any of that sounded.

    What does he mean they didn't have time to record anything? When you're not working a day job, don't you have more time than you know what to do with? How long did VH II take to record?

    I'm very troubled by this. Sincerely hope it's a day late April Fool's Day joke on us rabid lunatics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Sad thing is, even if his story is bullshit, he's going to stick with it forever. Someone should get WB on the phone and ask if their copies of the demos are safe and sound. I'm sure they are.

    As far as the bootlegs goes, this knucklehead should hear the quality of some of the stuff on the Beatles Anthology set. No one ever complained about how any of that sounded.

    What does he mean they didn't have time to record anything? When you're not working a day job, don't you have more time than you know what to do with? How long did VH II take to record?

    I'm very troubled by this. Sincerely hope it's a day late April Fool's Day joke on us rabid lunatics.
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    Did EVH say something to the effect, "theres things we'd like to do, but Dave is holding us back"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whorehey View Post
    Did EVH say something to the effect, "theres things we'd like to do, but Dave is holding us back"?
    Since "Dave has the final word", I guess so..

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    OK clearly we have a mole. Within the first page, Ed has seemingly addressed every single fucking complaint I've managed to ever read on this board!

    :P

    Remix the demos? Check
    Release some archive/bootlegs? Check
    Y U NO RELEASE STUDIO ALBUM? Check
    and then goes on to say "we will probably hunker down and do a studio record".

    alrighty then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge
    What does he mean they didn't have time to record anything? When you're not working a day job, don't you have more time than you know what to do with? How long did VH II take to record?
    Quite simple. When you're 26, that two weeks is 0.13% of your time on this planet. When you're 60, that turns into 40 weeks. Nearly a fucking year! And rather than write music, they supposedly wasted all that time trying to "fix up the bootlegs". So there you go!

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    "When it came to doing a live record, none of us wanted to sit there and listen to 200 shows to pick the best one. So we left it up to Dave."

    I feel like I just found my car, with no tires, sitting on cynder blocks. Actually, way worse. I could always get new tires.

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    I, politely, voiced my displeasure with the content of that interview at the VHND board and they took it down in 1 minute. Total snow job, this band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    "When it came to doing a live record, none of us wanted to sit there and listen to 200 shows to pick the best one. So we left it up to Dave."

    I feel like I just found my car, with no tires, sitting on cynder blocks. Actually, way worse. I could always get new tires.

    Laziest. Band. Ever.
    Yep too much work involved so I guess Dave takes the hit. What a bunch BS...
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    Dave picked the show ????

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    Are you excited to get back on the road?

    A: Yeah! We are going out in July. We just did Jimmy Kimmel and the Ellen show. All of a sudden, [David Lee Roth] wants to do the live stuff. We said, “OK, great!” He never wanted to do it before.

    Q: What was special about that night that made for such a great CD?

    A: In the old days, to make a live record, you had to have a mobile truck following you everywhere and all the BS that comes along with it. Not to mention the money it costs. Nowadays, we’ve got a Pro Tools rig out by the console, and we just let it run every night. We have a couple hundred shows archived.

    When it came to doing a live record, none of us wanted to sit there and listen to 200 shows to pick the best one. So we left it up to Dave.

    [Drummer] Alex [Van Halen], [bassist] Wolfgang [Van Halen] and I were pretty consistent every night, [but] for a singer it’s more difficult. Because if the bus ride is too long, or you slept with the air conditioner on or the heater on and your throat is [messed] up, [it can change his voice].

    Dave said, “How about Tokyo Dome?” We said fine. The bonus of that show was we didn’t have an opening act. So we played much longer. It’s about a 2-hour show. We got Bob Clearmountain to mix it. We were pretty involved with the mixing. Once we got the instruments sounding the way we wanted, we just let him go. He would send us mixes, and we would say, “Yeah, it sounds great. As long as you hear all the instruments and the vocals, that’s all you need.”

    Q: Last time you toured, Wolfgang assembled the set list. Did he do it this time, and are you playing any songs this time out you didn’t play during the last tour?

    A: That is yet to be seen. I’m hoping to play some other songs, but a lot of times that comes down to what Dave will sing and what he won’t. Wolf and I talk all the time and say, “Let’s throw this in. Let’s throw that in.” Ultimately, if Dave doesn’t want to sing them, then we can’t do them. I would love to throw in “Drop Dead Legs” and “Light Up the Sky.” All kinds of stuff. I think it would be a treat for the audience. Maybe we can convince him this time around

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    A: He is always off doing his own thing. Getting tattoos in Japan. He’s got an apartment over there. He’s got an apartment in New York. The relationship has always been the same, really. Just because he quit back in 1985 to pursue a solo career, the press I think made a bigger to-do out of our relationship being sour than we did, you know what I mean?

    When [my son] Wolfgang joined the band, he was actually responsible for calling Dave and getting him back in the band.

    Q: Will there ever be another Van Halen studio album?

    A: After this touring cycle, we will probably hunker down and do a studio record. We certainly have enough material. It is a matter of timing and getting everybody together. That’s the only way it can be done.

    We put out [“A Different Kind of Truth”] in 2012. But then you go onstage and play those new songs, and the audience looks at you like, “What’s this?” They really want to hear the classics.

    Q: Is it frustrating that when you play a new song, the audience makes a beer run?

    A: It’s kind of a double-edged sword. Thank God we have so many career tunes that people want to hear — songs they grew up on and that bring back memories of where they were and what party they were at and what chick they were with.

    That’s what they remember and want to get back to. But at the same time, it would be nice to be able to put out new music that people would give a chance. Maybe 10 years from now stuff off of “A Different Kind of Truth” will be considered classic and people will want to hear those.






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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    "the tapes are lost" ...

    Yeah, sure.
    I'm surprised you have trouble with that.

    40 year old 1/4 inch tape? That stuff was expensive, when you did a demo you would have to pay a tape charge based on how much you used and it took up space. Over the years stuff would get taped over deliberately or by mistake or just plain lost.

    Happened to me when I went back looking for stuff from a studio in the 90s 10 years on never mind 40.

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    I don't think you want to change club days too much, but I hear Ed . I don't like how thin and deep down in the recording the band sounds ...but like the live stuff there is probably 12 songs from the club days that are releasable.

    I do think the Demos being "lost" means out of reach financially.

    I do think both above sentences actually should read.. we looked at...(...insert anything imaginable, other than current line up music) and the lawyers wanted our taint skin prints in order to get it done.

    Why should they put out something that some manager from 1976 owns 40 % of still....those millions would still be great split by the band.. but not when you already have 50 mil in the bank.

    Descent 2015 tour and possibly a new release next summer or fall...sounds good.

    Much easier than negotiating for 10 months with lawyers to get the other shit done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Are you excited to get back on the road?

    A: Yeah! We are going out in July. We just did Jimmy Kimmel and the Ellen show. All of a sudden, [David Lee Roth] wants to do the live stuff. We said, “OK, great!” He never wanted to do it before.

    Q: What was special about that night that made for such a great CD?

    A: In the old days, to make a live record, you had to have a mobile truck following you everywhere and all the BS that comes along with it. Not to mention the money it costs. Nowadays, we’ve got a Pro Tools rig out by the console, and we just let it run every night. We have a couple hundred shows archived.

    When it came to doing a live record, none of us wanted to sit there and listen to 200 shows to pick the best one. So we left it up to Dave.

    [Drummer] Alex [Van Halen], [bassist] Wolfgang [Van Halen] and I were pretty consistent every night, [but] for a singer it’s more difficult. Because if the bus ride is too long, or you slept with the air conditioner on or the heater on and your throat is [messed] up, [it can change his voice].

    Dave said, “How about Tokyo Dome?” We said fine. The bonus of that show was we didn’t have an opening act. So we played much longer. It’s about a 2-hour show. We got Bob Clearmountain to mix it. We were pretty involved with the mixing. Once we got the instruments sounding the way we wanted, we just let him go. He would send us mixes, and we would say, “Yeah, it sounds great. As long as you hear all the instruments and the vocals, that’s all you need.”

    Q: Last time you toured, Wolfgang assembled the set list. Did he do it this time, and are you playing any songs this time out you didn’t play during the last tour?

    A: That is yet to be seen. I’m hoping to play some other songs, but a lot of times that comes down to what Dave will sing and what he won’t. Wolf and I talk all the time and say, “Let’s throw this in. Let’s throw that in.” Ultimately, if Dave doesn’t want to sing them, then we can’t do them. I would love to throw in “Drop Dead Legs” and “Light Up the Sky.” All kinds of stuff. I think it would be a treat for the audience. Maybe we can convince him this time around

    Q: How are things between you and David Lee Roth these days?

    A: He is always off doing his own thing. Getting tattoos in Japan. He’s got an apartment over there. He’s got an apartment in New York. The relationship has always been the same, really. Just because he quit back in 1985 to pursue a solo career, the press I think made a bigger to-do out of our relationship being sour than we did, you know what I mean?

    When [my son] Wolfgang joined the band, he was actually responsible for calling Dave and getting him back in the band.

    Q: Will there ever be another Van Halen studio album?

    A: After this touring cycle, we will probably hunker down and do a studio record. We certainly have enough material. It is a matter of timing and getting everybody together. That’s the only way it can be done.

    We put out [“A Different Kind of Truth”] in 2012. But then you go onstage and play those new songs, and the audience looks at you like, “What’s this?” They really want to hear the classics.

    Q: Is it frustrating that when you play a new song, the audience makes a beer run?

    A: It’s kind of a double-edged sword. Thank God we have so many career tunes that people want to hear — songs they grew up on and that bring back memories of where they were and what party they were at and what chick they were with.

    That’s what they remember and want to get back to. But at the same time, it would be nice to be able to put out new music that people would give a chance. Maybe 10 years from now stuff off of “A Different Kind of Truth” will be considered classic and people will want to hear those.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I'm surprised you have trouble with that.

    40 year old 1/4 inch tape? That stuff was expensive, when you did a demo you would have to pay a tape charge based on how much you used and it took up space. Over the years stuff would get taped over deliberately or by mistake or just plain lost.

    Happened to me when I went back looking for stuff from a studio in the 90s 10 years on never mind 40.
    The original masters to that demo is a large, glowing nugget of gold in the WB vault. Not a doubt in my mind.

    Too much personal expense to attain coupled with laziness and lawyer mumbo jumbo is far more plausible than, "I opened my pristinely kept vault only to find that my copies of the the tapes were not on the shelf where I know I left them"

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    those tapes are not made of steel...they disperse...when Queen revisited the original master of Bohemian Rhapsody they were hardly able to run it again and had to give it a special procedure. so it is possible that these tapes are gone when somebody at WB asked the threshold worker to check the old shit in the storage if it's still running or not.

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    Why would Warner Brothers have them at all never mind in a vault?

    They were recorded long before they signed with WB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Why would Warner Brothers have them at all never mind in a vault?

    They were recorded long before they signed with WB.
    wai...wai...wait...they sure as hell went into the studio with more than VH I and recorded a lot of stuff. Ted Templeman had to chose and work from that. common workflow even back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Why would Warner Brothers have them at all never mind in a vault?

    They were recorded long before they signed with WB.
    We are talking about the Warner Bros. demos, right? Were those not on WB's dime with Ted producing them? Hell, Ted's even singing with Dave on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidLeeNatra View Post
    those tapes are not made of steel...they disperse...when Queen revisited the original master of Bohemian Rhapsody they were hardly able to run it again and had to give it a special procedure. so it is possible that these tapes are gone when somebody at WB asked the threshold worker to check the old shit in the storage if it's still running or not.
    Well I find it hard to believe that the moment the digital era hit in the mid-eighties, gems like this weren't at least digitally archived.
    And aren't all of the things Jimmy Page recently worked from older? His tapes held up.

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    I, politely, voiced my displeasure with the content of that interview at the VHND board and they took it down in 1 minute. Total snow job, this band.
    You can't be serious. They deleted your post??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Well I find it hard to believe that the moment the digital era hit in the mid-eighties, gems like this weren't at least digitally archived.
    And aren't all of the things Jimmy Page recently worked from older? His tapes held up.
    it's a question of storage. like celluloid. cool it, dry it and don't touch it...

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    I just don't buy the 'didn't have time to make a record' line... why the fuck not? Was there a deadline? Was fatso-the-bass-player too busy recording his amazing solo album?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Why would Warner Brothers have them at all never mind in a vault?

    They were recorded long before they signed with WB.
    That's what I was wondering... weren't those demos produced by Gene Simmons before WB got on board?

    I've also got to wonder what became of all the inventory that was stored at that film/tape archive still exists..? With all the management changes surrounding the band over the last 30-40 years stuff like that can easily be lost or just chucked into a dumpster if someone forgot to pay a bill or whoever was managing that left and didn't hand off anything to keep it retained.
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    You can't be serious. They deleted your post??
    Jeff's outfit doesn't tolerate much criticism/negativity there... he's got a business to protect.

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    You can't be serious. They deleted your post??
    I just found it. Weird. It was gone, but now it's there. Guess they decided my gripe was legit.

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    My lord, Ed is incapable of taking responsibility isn't he?


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    My lord, Ed is incapable of taking responsibility isn't he?
    What lord would that be ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    That's what I was wondering... weren't those demos produced by Gene Simmons before WB got on board?
    No no no. Those are the 10 songs that they were flown out to Electric Lady Land by Gene to record. That's an earlier batch than the WB stuff.

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