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Bernie at Hec Edmundson (UW campus) tonight.
Maximum capacity 12,000 inside, another 3,000 outside who couldn't get in.
I'm sure the crowd at Portland's Rose Garden tomorrow will be great as well.
Yup Bernie is hot right now and that's with the media snubbing him. I noticed Jesse Ventura is publicly supporting Bernie now. If Bernie continues to run as an Independent the Democrat Party is going to have to find someone who shoots sparks our their ass and that's not Hillary. Hell Hillary should be in prison not campaigning for president. What a joke.
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And Ted Cruz will get 20,000 at Liberty. Politicians getting large crowds to tell their base what they want to hear is not the challenge in America. Finding someone who can actually talk with those that oppose or are on the other side of the isle is the challenge. It is why so many people who are not connected to one end or the other of the political spectrum feel so disconnected from the process and so lacking of any real dialogue. The dialogue regardless of left or right is just so weak and has lost all interest in finding common ground or talking to broader spectrum. Should we be surprised so many have turned off from the process? Sanders has always been a fairly sincere guy but again the species is the same a guy who a few years after college starts his life long political career and gives kick ass speeches to his base. Thats not a knock of him, just a simple fact different flavor of the same ice cream. It is just too rare to find candidates willing to address the broader spectrum, common ground or heaven forbid have actually created something in this world beyond political noise. For the most part the only non-political species to rum tend to be clowns ala Trump. We are are poorly served electorate but do not seem to demand better. The most recent republican debate had more references to abortion than day care. I get abortion gets a base excited on both sides but seriously a boring issue like day care and the dilemma parents face when working just covers day care costs impacts way more people and society on a daily basis but you never really hear much discussion on policy just bumper sticker rhetoric.
Ford not meant as an attack on your guy there meant more as a broader comment.
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Also why does a candidates religion come up so often? You want the person to run a government not be you spiritual adviser. Whether Rommney being mormon or Sanders jewish seriously unless there is something extreme in their character what the hell does their religion matter. If you are looking to an elected official for your spiritual guidance you probably have bigger questions to address. The reference of their religion to me says more about the person referencing it than the candidate themselves.
Originally Posted by Never was
I'm assuming you're saying that's going to be when classes start back up in a few weeks, and that I also assume that you realize that those kids in the crowd at Liberty MUST attend, it's mandatory, right?
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I'd agree but while a lot of discussion on the moral purity or inherent evil of wealth distribution there is not a lot of talk on mobility because in many areas of the country that ladder is broken. Some in our country grow up not even knowing a ladder is suppose to be there and are totally disconnected from hope of climbing up. Taking more from end or telling the other pull yourself up doesn't help those disconnected from hope. I'm not a wealth re-distributor but there simply is not opportunity for so many and that demands to be addressed.
Last edited by Never was; 08-09-2015 at 09:10 AM.
Angel (08-09-2015)
OOOPS this was quote I meant to reply to.
In Lynchburg if you stand up with a microphone, are white and have a bible in your hand you will attract 20,000 and no you don't have to be made to attend. Saying he could get that crowd was not meant as a compliment. I live not that far away, and they are true believers there in a scary kind of way.
Yeah, I know you do, and I don't either. My son goes to college 50 miles away.
But specifically referring to Liberty, when Cruz announced in March, just stating the fact that attendance was mandatory for the students....
Sadly almost all those students would go anyway which is scary. Aren't we suppose to be liberal hippies in college and usually has paychecks get bigger and kids etc... typically you get more conservative a bit. Those Liberty kids start out bitching Bush was too liberal, where the hell are they gonna be politically in 20 years. I've had some as interns and nice kids but damn their life experience is so shallow.
I lived in Seattle for over a decade and when Gore ran they bitched in there he was too conservative. Seattle is my favorite city by far but politically it is indeed very liberal relative the broader country much as Lynchburg is politically very conservative.
Last edited by Never was; 08-09-2015 at 09:28 AM.
Well, let's be honest - Those kids at Liberty, and hundreds of other religious-affiliated universities, take advantage of huge endowments that are disguised as "academic aid". And frankly, hey, if it gets the kids an education, albeit one slanted towards religion, knock yourself out....
I recall as my son was getting close to attending college, he got an offer from a religious-affiliated university in western Virginia. Without knowing his GPA, his current grades or any of our financial information as his parents, they immediately offered him a $15,000 scholarship per year. Now, it turns out that a year there was at least $30,000 per year, so the money saved would've still resulted in approx. $20K per year.....
Narrow views and full disclosure seldom go together.
I will say as Domer (Notre Dame alum) it is a broad based education and they truly do economic aid. I learned more about Hinduism, Taoism, and other world religions than Catholicism. I do think national universities like a BC, Notre Dame, Georgetown, are very different that the regional Loma Linda, William Jessup, Liberty, etc... of the world. Again I'm biased as a Domer, but a big difference in the culture of those two sets of schools
It's true that Cruz's speech at Liberty was mandatory attendance. Bernie is scheduled to speak there on September 14. Not sure whether that one will also be mandatory.
And yes, I was shocked as Hell to read that he would be speaking there. Not that Bernie is afraid to talk to anybody.... but that a school founded by Jerry Falwell would even allow him on campus.
He's a pussy. But he is currently every wet liberal's wet dream so let the kids have their fun.
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Like rich college kids and Red Rocks.
WTF is a wet liberal?
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Angel (08-09-2015)
He's a liberal's wet dream but he's for banking reform and that's why he get's no media coverage and Soros sends his Black Lives Matter paid goons in to protest him.
One that got her bean flicked after a Bernie Sander's rally.
Smart PR because the school can claim they are open but it might also have to do with keeping the accreditation board happy.
Official number from the Portland Rose Garden: 28,000.
or in other words, a larger crowd than all the clown car appearances from the week combined!!!
FEEL THE BERN, CASCADIA!!!
Hey FORD, answer a damned PM man
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By: Jason Easley
Thursday, October 15th, 2015, 9:31
The Democratic debate as energized Bernie Sanders supporters as the Democratic candidate raised an amazing $3.2 million in three days this week all from small donors.
According to the Sanders campaign:
And in a remarkable turn of events, there has been a record surge in online donations this week. More than 97,800 contributions poured in totaling some $3.2 million since Tuesday, when the first Democratic debate was held in Las Vegas, through mid-afternoon on Thursday. The average donation $32.28.
Also on the day after the debate, Sanders attracted 1,100 people to a $25-per-person fundraiser and rally on Wednesday in Southern California. It was only the eighth traditional fundraiser of his campaign. A ninth event was held that same evening with tickets going for $250 and up.
For the sake of comparison, the Hillary Clinton campaign has raised $5 million from people giving less than $200 in the last four months.
The fact that Sanders donors give a smaller amount per person means that the campaign can ask donors to give multiple times without risking them maxing out and hitting the per person donation limit.
No matter who the experts and supporters think won the debate, it is clear that Bernie Sanders supporters have been energized by the debate.
What often gets overlooked is that Sen. Sanders is raising more money from small donors than all of the Republican candidates are from their billionaire backers. Cash is vital to a successful campaign, but money must be converted to an organization and votes.
The next step for the Sanders campaign will be to convert the dollars that they have raised into support at the ballot box.
Sen. Sanders has asked his supporters to show him that they are willing to join his political revolution by funding a campaign that defies Citizen United politics.
Millions of Americans have responded, and the Sanders revolution is on the march.
It really doesn't matter who we support or who we don't. The powers that be are going to install whoever they want whether we like it or not. If the wrong candidate did win somehow they'd just off the mo fo like the did JFK.
Anonymous (10-16-2015)
I will congratulate Bernie for refusing that Martin whatever the fuck his name is's money. That dude is a real piece of shit.
What kind of proof do you have that will happen?
And don't dare tell me that it's been the case from the beginning of time until at least 2014. That's not proof. Things might change next year.
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I don't think any politician that still hopes to win something would publicly accept that shitstain's money.
I just met him & I already want to kill him more than I ever wanted to kill someone before.
I really do. I really want to violently murder that son of a filthy whore.
I'd like to slap that smirk off his face myself. Somebody should inject him with HIV and tell him the price of those pills just went up to a billion dollars a piece.
It's not just that, man. There's something about the guy... so far, I have NEVER been wrong ONCE about people when I look at them. I don't know what it is, if it's their movements, their stance, facial expressions, maybe all of it, but I have never been wrong about someone on my *first* AND instantaneous gut feeling.
Now, obviously I can't draw as much from a picture as I can from actually looking at a person in, well, person.
But fuck me if that's not the ugliest human being I've ever seen. And I'm not talking about his face. Imagine my surprise when I read about him & what he's known for.
Honestly, I DO want to kill the guy. Violently.
Oh fuck, I just google imaged him.
There's something very wrong there. I can't put my finger on it, but there's something very wrong with that "person".
I'm fully aware of how this sounds coming from someone who is quite willing to commit murder just by looking at a picture. Believe me, I'm quite aware of the irony, there's no need to point it out.
But goddamned. The guy is... what's a stronger word than disgusting? He's that.
Oh dear lord.
It's getting worse.
http://crimefeed.com/2015/09/martin-...orkers-family/
He looks evil. Like a serial killer.
Well, there we have it.
I knew it. I'm never wrong, am I? Fuck.
Ladies & gentlemen, this is the face of a true sociopath.
http://mic.com/articles/125650/marti...icals-daraprim
"I hope to see you and your four children homeless and will do whatever I can to assure this."
He wrote that. He's willing to destroy children.
Let me state this again - the moment I looked at his picture, I thought "this is the ugliest human being I've ever seen". And again, I'm not talking about his face.
Mother fucker needs to be horsewhipped.
It's all in the eyes, imo. Sociopaths have no emotion. They can fake a smile with their face...but the eyes always look evil.
I had a very short relationship with one, and supported a client with suspected sociopathy over the summer. They all have the same fucking lifeless eyes...
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