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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    Why not?

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    Well, not right now.. Maybe later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    I don't wanna live in a world where ima is right about anything
    Well, neither do I. I want to be wrong. I yearn to be wrong. I hope to be proven wrong every single day of my life.

    But I never am. Which means that things ARE as bad as I think they are.

    Maybe someday I WILL be wrong. We will all be very happy that day.

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    You never scared me... until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You're right Izzy... as usual... It's 2015 and Van Halen has evolved into the Pluto of the music universe. Not even quite a planet any more.

    I read the charts or channel flip during any of these music awards shows on TV... I don't even recognize 70% of the names nor have heard their music which most of it sucks!!

    It's somewhat a shame that Rock music didn't retain it's core genre like country has... instead the industry went chasing after any shit that turned a dime and forgot what built the house to begin with.
    Nah, country just hides it better, because the Nashville corporate establishment has pretty much always had a stranglehold over that industry, to some extent. Sure you have your exceptions - Johnny Cash, Hank Williams Sr and III (not BoShitFaced!), Waylon, Willie, Merle Haggard, etc. who were capable of writing their own stuff and determining what musical path they wanted to take, but for the most part the country scene is... writers in this barn, singers in that barn, and even with somebody as mega successful as Garth Brooks, the guys you take on the road with you to sold out arenas ain't the ones who play on the records, you're stuck with the session musicians whom the producer wants to use.

    Hell, what's the difference between Rascal Flatts and the Backstreet Boys? Other than twangy guitars, not much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Nah, country just hides it better, because the Nashville corporate establishment has pretty much always had a stranglehold over that industry, to some extent. Sure you have your exceptions - Johnny Cash, Hank Williams Sr and III (not BoShitFaced!), Waylon, Willie, Merle Haggard, etc. who were capable of writing their own stuff and determining what musical path they wanted to take, but for the most part the country scene is... writers in this barn, singers in that barn, and even with somebody as mega successful as Garth Brooks, the guys you take on the road with you to sold out arenas ain't the ones who play on the records, you're stuck with the session musicians whom the producer wants to use.

    Hell, what's the difference between Rascal Flatts and the Backstreet Boys? Other than twangy guitars, not much.
    Can't disagree with that. And it's not a new thing either. Olivia Newton John is a good example. Most people don't know that she was the country Top Female Vocalist at one time. Of course, the industry people and a lot of artists nearly had strokes and even boycotted the awards show. Just goes to show that being the "best" country singer or group isn't all that hard. Not that she wasn't/isn't an amazing talent. She IS. And the hottest chick to have ever walked the planet and I would still - sorry, I get all carried away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Nah, country just hides it better, because the Nashville corporate establishment has pretty much always had a stranglehold over that industry, to some extent. Sure you have your exceptions - Johnny Cash, Hank Williams Sr and III (not BoShitFaced!), Waylon, Willie, Merle Haggard, etc. who were capable of writing their own stuff and determining what musical path they wanted to take, but for the most part the country scene is... writers in this barn, singers in that barn, and even with somebody as mega successful as Garth Brooks, the guys you take on the road with you to sold out arenas ain't the ones who play on the records, you're stuck with the session musicians whom the producer wants to use.

    Hell, what's the difference between Rascal Flatts and the Backstreet Boys? Other than twangy guitars, not much.
    I have no idea why Zahzoo said country music kept its roots. Maybe he forgot that he posted this on another website himself! Old age...



    Hides it better? Well, only if, like me, you don't usually listen to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    Well, neither do I. I want to be wrong. I yearn to be wrong. I hope to be proven wrong every single day of my life.

    But I never am. Which means that things ARE as bad as I think they are.

    Maybe someday I WILL be wrong. We will all be very happy that day.

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    Could be worse. You could be poor. Or poor and unattractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Could be worse. You could be poor. Or poor and unattractive.
    Well, I'm not wealthy by any definition, but I eat out every day, got my own apartment & car all paid for & I still have some left each month for small luxuries like trann... train miniatures & hookers.

    I'm also somewhat good looking & I have a decent size dick.

    I guess that's why I'm laughing most of the time. If I sound bitter, it's because my choice of comedy is bitterness & depression. That's what gets the most larfs out of me. That & gay stereotypes on British comedies. Can't get enough of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    Well, I'm not wealthy by any definition, but I eat out every day, got my own apartment & car all paid for & I still have some left each month for small luxuries like trann... train miniatures & hookers.
    You'd never fit in here in The New America. Nobody can have more money or stuff than other people. Unless you steal said stuff from another person who used this thing called money to buy it. Then it's ok to have alotta stuff.

    And cars are bad for the planet. What, do you think this is 1985 or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    You'd never fit in here in The New America. Nobody can have more money or stuff than other people. Unless you steal said stuff from another person who used this thing called money to buy it. Then it's ok to have alotta stuff.

    And cars are bad for the planet. What, do you think this is 1985 or something?
    I'm sorry. I'll just run off to a message board about an old, creepy singer & preach global warming to everyone. That will make up for my car bringing about the destruction of Earth, right?

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    I'm sorry. I'll just run off to a message board about an old, creepy singer & preach global warming to everyone. That will make up for my car bringing about the destruction of Earth, right?

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    I have no idea why Zahzoo said country music kept its roots. Maybe he forgot that he posted this on another website himself! Old age...

    Hides it better? Well, only if, like me, you don't usually listen to it.

    Cheers!
    Same roots... same weed patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Yes. And then we'll throw a hate white rally!

    I hate white people. The ones who whine and complain about everything. They should all be beat with a sand wedge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Nah, country just hides it better, because the Nashville corporate establishment has pretty much always had a stranglehold over that industry, to some extent. Sure you have your exceptions - Johnny Cash, Hank Williams Sr and III (not BoShitFaced!), Waylon, Willie, Merle Haggard, etc. who were capable of writing their own stuff and determining what musical path they wanted to take, but for the most part the country scene is... writers in this barn, singers in that barn, and even with somebody as mega successful as Garth Brooks, the guys you take on the road with you to sold out arenas ain't the ones who play on the records, you're stuck with the session musicians whom the producer wants to use.

    Hell, what's the difference between Rascal Flatts and the Backstreet Boys? Other than twangy guitars, not much.
    Nashville is just another who you know and who you blow town. There is no country music anymore. Country music was fiddles, banjos, and guitars and people who really could play them them things and some very well. Blues, country, blue grass it's all folk music. Shit you would burn time doing while the still percolated out white lightning. Then it became producer made pop and ghost musicians and now with the recording industry in chaos that's even going. Who knows where it will end up. Probably still some people playing banjos somewhere but nobody give a shit because nobody is marketing it but you can see it on YouTube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Nashville is just another who you know and who you blow town. There is no country music anymore. Country music was fiddles, banjos, and guitars and people who really could play them them things and some very well. Blues, country, blue grass it's all folk music. Shit you would burn time doing while the still percolated out white lightning. Then it became producer made pop and ghost musicians and now with the recording industry in chaos that's even going. Who knows where it will end up. Probably still some people playing banjos somewhere but nobody give a shit because nobody is marketing it but you can see it on YouTube.
    Look up Sturgill Simpson.. Probably the most 'old school' new country artist.. I'm a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    I have no idea why Zahzoo said country music kept its roots. Maybe he forgot that he posted this on another website himself! Old age...



    Hides it better? Well, only if, like me, you don't usually listen to it.

    Cheers!
    God, that's even better than when a local country station (no longer in existence) made a mashup of Shania Twain's "Any Man of Mine" and Def Leppard's "Pour Some Sugar On Me" (both overproduced by Mutt Lange, of course)

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    Common sense would say they will play something everyone knows. I hope it is not Jump, but probably will be Panama or HFT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    For the love of God, play something that is NOT "Jump" or "Panama".

    Remind these fucking boyband posers and idiots who think a turntable is a musical instrument what REAL rock & roll sounds like.
    Boy bands aren't going to care. They play what THEY like. Are you saying everyone should be rock? That's as bad as expecting VH to sound like they did 30 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    They never got marketing. They should be sending Dave around to promote the band. Dave loves to do it but nope. Have Dave go out and give away some free VH and EVH swag and pump up some excitement. They aren't hungry anymore and that's a big part of the problem.

    Agreed. Frankly, I would love to see Dave more on the late night talk show circuit.
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    I don't imagine Dave is in the same role/capacity as before he tried to become a movie star. Doubt he's viewed by his bandmates as a 25% part of the team, no way he's compensated as such.
    Ed and Al are probably taking a bigger cut and Wolf and Dave get smaller cuts, shit Ed might pay his son more than Screech.
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    You're probably right.
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    Anyone who is anticipating this live performance is a moron....


    Dave sings like that dudes wife who got put in the electric shock room from "cat's eye".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    I have no idea why Zahzoo said country music kept its roots. Maybe he forgot that he posted this on another website himself! Old age...



    Hides it better? Well, only if, like me, you don't usually listen to it.

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    Anyone who is anticipating this live performance is a moron....


    Dave sings like that dudes wife who got put in the electric shock room from "cat's eye".


    And he dances like her too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    Anyone who is anticipating this live performance is a moron....
    Yup...it's going to be a glorified "Ellen" performance, filled with the same cringe-worthy Dave moments.

    Instead of just going out there with the swagger and kicking ass, Dave's going to overplay it and come off looking like an ass again.

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    As long as Dave is not mincing about like a filthy old whore with that creepy grin, it won't be so bad. I know that won't happen, but still...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    As long as Dave is not mincing about like a filthy old whore with that creepy grin, it won't be so bad. I know that won't happen, but still...

    If anything, it will be Kimmel x10.

    He's going to be so over-amped about being on prime-time TV on the BBMA's that he might actually add involuntarily shitting his pants to his stage repertoire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fryingdutchman View Post
    If anything, it will be Kimmel x10.

    He's going to be so over-amped about being on prime-time TV on the BBMA's that he might actually add involuntarily shitting his pants to his stage repertoire.
    I don't know, aside from the over the top gum chewing I thought he was ok on Kimmel. It was that creepy contortionist stuff coupled with the don't leave your children with this man grin that got me about Ellen.

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    They'll have to hand out earplugs, that's for sure
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    The legacy is being destroyed more and more with each cringe worthy performance....

    Either wrap it up and go out with a bang with Michael Anthony....

    If Mike can even save them at this point...

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    What legacy ????

    We have a group of young rock fans at work all hyper about going to see acdc for the first time at the mo . They have no idea who van halen are or the ones that do have heard of van hager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    What legacy ????

    We have a group of young rock fans at work all hyper about going to see acdc for the first time at the mo . They have no idea who van halen are or the ones that do have heard of van hager.
    I think that there is an issue here about CVH outside of the USA. Compare CVH to Led Zepp, AC/DC, Kiss, Aerosmith or a host of other great bands and it is embarassing how poorly they have engaged a younger audience on this side of the pond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    Well, what do you expect?

    You know something? I think Kristy's right & most of you are still stuck in 1985 & are now slowly awakening to the realization that the world has changed around you. Not by choice, but because Van Halen is interacting with the real world, so you guys have no choice but notice it.

    Well, welcome to 2015. All entertainment has gone to SHIT. Music is safe, bland corporatized bullshit that sounds exactly the same no matter who's auto-tuning, movies are recycled trash with the same actors, camera shots, soundtracks & ONE carefully woven plot that tries very hard not to offend any susceptibilities or allows you to think during the whole ordeal. Books have become poorly written fan-fiction with emphasis on either forced sexual tension - Young Adults - or straight up, also poorly written mind pornography for frustrated housewives.

    Culture has become the equivalent of talking about the weather.

    Welcome to my nightmare - I think you're gonna like it.

    Cheers!
    There's great music and movies out there, you just have to search harder for it these days.

    The weird thing now is the famous for being famous phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    God, that's even better than when a local country station (no longer in existence) made a mashup of Shania Twain's "Any Man of Mine" and Def Leppard's "Pour Some Sugar On Me" (both overproduced by Mutt Lange, of course)
    The thing is, the design is called a "template". It exists in publishing, movies and music. Some of the design first appeared in early newsprint, when publishers would share formats, and still exist to this day. My "local" paper is formatted in Chicago, with gaps left for local stories here.

    I recall Twayne's tune sounding just like a Def Leppard record. And currently, country sounds like pop. In a way, that ain't so bad...yet I still miss Buck Owens, Merle, and Waylon.

    For that matter, Straight, Yoakum and Earle.

    Same with radio, same with pizza.

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    The "template" is pretty simple for guitar... rhythm is a combination of G, C & D chords in various order with Em or F thrown into the chorus, bridge or turn around. Most are just the Major chords but some spice them up using minors, aug's, or 7th's mostly on the C. This applies to country, rock and folk/hippie music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    I think that there is an issue here about CVH outside of the USA. ....it is embarassing how poorly they have engaged a younger audience on this side of the pond.
    Based on what I've read from you guys here over the past few years, I can't imagine how the younger generation out your way would even know who they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    The "template" is pretty simple for guitar... rhythm is a combination of G, C & D chords in various order with Em or F thrown into the chorus, bridge or turn around. Most are just the Major chords but some spice them up using minors, aug's, or 7th's mostly on the C. This applies to country, rock and folk/hippie music.

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