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    The song "Skyscraper" and Led Zeppelin

    Maybe I am off the mark but I do not think so, and maybe it was done unconsciously when Dave and Vai recorded it but the foundation of the song "Skyscraper" seems to be based on the template of the music "Achilles Last Stand" by Led Zeppelin and even more so that Van Hagar song "Pleasure Dome" (and why is that even the titles by Hagar make one feel stupid when just typing them out) is too... which made me think that Dave and Ed should have done that Zeppelin song justice in writing an inspired tribute to that song together
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    Dave and Vai recorded songs unconsciously? Now that is talent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    Dave and Vai recorded songs unconsciously? Now that is talent
    After recording Eat 'em & Smile, they were probably unconscious the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream View Post
    Maybe I am off the mark but I do not think so, and maybe it was done unconsciously when Dave and Vai recorded it but the foundation of the song "Skyscraper" seems to be based on the template of the music "Achilles Last Stand" by Led Zeppelin
    Now this is quite far-fetched, really...

    If there is one plain to hear zeppelinesque tune on that album, that's "Damn Good".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jérôme Frenchise View Post
    Now this is quite far-fetched, really...

    If there is one plain to hear zeppelinesque tune on that album, that's "Damn Good".
    This & the Super Bowl thread is a prime example of what happens when you over-listen & over-think a half-dead, semi-obscure band whose glory days only live on in the heads of their Alzheimer-ridden fans.

    But maybe I'm being too negative. I tend to do that, for some reason.

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    No Kristy comments yet? She must still be wakin' and bakin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    This & the Super Bowl thread is a prime example of what happens when you over-listen & over-think a half-dead, semi-obscure band whose glory days only live on in the heads of their Alzheimer-ridden fans.

    But maybe I'm being too negative. I tend to do that, for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream View Post
    Maybe I am off the mark but I do not think so, and maybe it was done unconsciously when Dave and Vai recorded it but the foundation of the song "Skyscraper" seems to be based on the template of the music "Achilles Last Stand" by Led Zeppelin and even more so that Van Hagar song "Pleasure Dome" (and why is that even the titles by Hagar make one feel stupid when just typing them out) is too... which made me think that Dave and Ed should have done that Zeppelin song justice in writing an inspired tribute to that song together
    I hear what you're saying when I listened to those songs. Neither one was all that familiar to me. I'm more of a CVH fan than a solo Dave fan. I had the FUCK cd but I guess I didn't listen to it too many times. This song here used more than the template for "Achilles"

    It ripped off the whole song
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    Sounds kinda like this don't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    I hear what you're saying when I listened to those songs. Neither one was all that familiar to me. I'm more of a CVH fan than a solo Dave fan. I had the FUCK cd but I guess I didn't listen to it too many times. This song here used more than the template for "Achilles"

    It ripped off the whole song
    Thank you! Listen to the foundation, the stagger of the composition, the drum runs on "Skyscraper"... it is there alright and "Pleasure Dome" is following the same shit to build the song and it is not a illusion, and basing anything on Zep is a good thing... and yes on Heart

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    Ann & Nancy would be the first ones to admit that they were big Zep fans. Even now, they can deliver those songs arguably better than Page & Plant can anymore.....


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    Those first couple of Heart albums are superb.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Ann & Nancy would be the first ones to admit that they were big Zep fans. Even now, they can deliver those songs arguably better than Page & Plant can anymore.....
    Plant has made it clear he doesn't want to do any more Led Zep reunions so that point is moot but here's Zep doing the same song just a couple of years before the one you posted was done. The members of Heart are quite a bit younger than the members of Zep so it's not really a fair comparison but I'd still rather hear the real band than a cover version by a band who probably wouldn't have made it nearly as far as they did had they not blatantly ripped off the real band. Heart might have been a known commodity in the pacific northwest but they didn't make the big time until thet released Barracuda which is still "arguably" their biggest hit.

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    I coulda just said you're full of shit and here's the proof. Zep would have blown Heart off the stage that night.

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    You think Barracuda was Heart's first national hit? Better mix a little bit of gingko biloba in with your next bowl of weed, your memory is going.......



    a few others in between there too......

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    You think Barracuda was Heart's first national hit? Better mix a little bit of gingko biloba in with your next bowl of weed, your memory is going.......



    a few others in between there too......
    You're from Washington. I'm from L A. I'm sure they were popular there before they were in L A. I'm sure "grunge" was a big deal there before it was in L A too. Listening to rock and roll and getting high was how I spent most of my time back then. I guess I can only speak for what was popular in So Cal at the time. Don't remember hearing anything from Heart before "Barracuda" then I heard their older stuff. It happens that way sometime. Great White was getting mucho airplay in L A before they made it big nationally. Same thing with Motley Crue. Van Halen was a different story. They got national attention right off jump street.

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    Cool

    Christ, I hate these Vevo vids that are scratchy and take a week to load.

    In any event, this is what Led Zeppelin in the 1980s (or 90s, for that matter) in a qualified and not wasted form should have sounded like: honest, with some concern.. with content. John Paul Jones arranging, and earnest singing.

    And the less Jimmy Page the better. JPJ should have handled the production values.

    Alas, it was not to be.

    Over the past two decades, out of all solo albums of all the ex-Zep's solo albums, only Jones has proven himself as a true musical adventurist. (Oh golly gee, Robert Plant sings old country tunes with chicks...how highly inventive when yer voice gives out...)

    Yet, I digress...check out the sound of Jeff Buckley...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post

    In any event, this is what Led Zeppelin in the 1980s (or 90s, for that matter) in a qualified and not wasted form should have sounded like: honest, with some concern.. with content. John Paul Jones arranging, and earnest singing.

    I don't hate it but I gotta disagree. Zep should have stayed on the same page as Presence and kicked ass into the 80s and then mellowed out. In Through The Out Door was a big disappointment IMO. It might have been over for Zep even if Bonham hadn't drank himself to death. It took a long time between Presence and the last album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jérôme Frenchise View Post
    Now this is quite far-fetched, really...

    If there is one plain to hear zeppelinesque tune on that album, that's "Damn Good".
    Exactement.
    The only Zep-like thing I hear on Skyscraper is that acoustic riff in Damn Good.
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    Yeah, it is a little bit like "The Rain Song", now that I think about it.......

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    And by the way, am I the only one here who thinks that Two Fools A Minute could have been grate if played by FZ?? With Ike Willis on vocals, that goes without saying..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Christ, I hate these Vevo vids that are scratchy and take a week to load.

    In any event, this is what Led Zeppelin in the 1980s (or 90s, for that matter) in a qualified and not wasted form should have sounded like: honest, with some concern.. with content. John Paul Jones arranging, and earnest singing.

    And the less Jimmy Page the better. JPJ should have handled the production values.

    Alas, it was not to be.

    Over the past two decades, out of all solo albums of all the ex-Zep's solo albums, only Jones has proven himself as a true musical adventurist. (Oh golly gee, Robert Plant sings old country tunes with chicks...how highly inventive when yer voice gives out...)

    Yet, I digress...check out the sound of Jeff Buckley...


    I listened to Grace for the first time today I never wanted to listen to Jeff even when he was climbing his ladder to acclaim because I always thought I knew him he has that kind of magic, like.... I remember him sitting on his relatives front porch playng his guitar when he was a kid I was only a few years older than him .

    I was walking by to go get stoned or walking back home stoned. Jeff lived at the end of my block used to see him all the time he was great even back then just some kid you knew was destined to bring greatness to the musical game.

    Jeff never lived down the street from me. I never walked by him while stoned; to be truthful, perhaps it is just the awesome ability of someone to create a personal connection. Perhaps it is the fears of loss that spectre that you just don't want to see. A image that there is more to this man this music this moment that just a passing click in the trees.

    I will continue once again to never listening to his music, I knew it would be as good as it is. Grace.

    Peace.
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    I saw the Jeff Buckley and Grace Band from the front row. Yeah, it was amazing. In my top 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashstralia View Post
    I saw the Jeff Buckley and Grace Band from the front row. Yeah, it was amazing. In my top 5.
    I'd like to see Grace Potter from the front row. She always seems to be wearing a short skirt and skimpy panties.

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    Yo ash good to see ya buddy
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