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    Quote Originally Posted by CVH Rulz View Post
    Yeah, I do that sometimes.

    I don't come here a lot, but it would be nice if it didn't feel like a trip into hell all the time.
    Then don't come running with the devil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVH Rulz View Post
    I didn't buy the new album, but if the tour was coming near me, I would definitely go. I don't really care what they do anymore. It's their lives and up to them what they want to do. If they do something I'm interested in, I'm in...otherwise, life goes on. If life is good, what this band does or doesn't do shouldn't make a big difference to your life. Hint, hint: Go out and make your own life great and you won't give a rat's ass what this band is doing on a daily basis - like the half million peeps that saw them in 2012 - not the 40 regulars who live here and scrutinize every move they make.
    First deuchy thing you've ever written.

    No one here is keeping themselves from making their lives great. We may be crazy, but we're not Trekkies.

    I don't see what the problem is. True fans judging Dave harshly, as requested. So much recently that Heater's head must be popping off in delight. Do you you really think this is the only fan site where fans are Monday morning quarterbacking every move a band or artist makes? That's a commonality to all fan sites. Is this place hell? Hell no. Just a place filled with passionate fans and a handful of trolls. I consider the RA to be a nice addition to my great life, with the exception of some of the shit I've seen in the Frontline. So take it all in stride, Rulz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    First deuchy thing you've ever written.

    No one here is keeping themselves from making their lives great. We may be crazy, but we're not Trekkies.

    I don't see what the problem is. True fans judging Dave harshly, as requested. So much recently that Heater's head must be popping off in delight. Do you you really think this is the only fan site where fans are Monday morning quarterbacking every move a band or artist makes? That's a commonality to all fan sites. Is this place hell? Hell no. Just a place filled with passionate fans and a handful of trolls. I consider the RA to be a nice addition to my great life, with the exception of some of the shit I've seen in the Frontline. So take it all in stride, Rulz.
    You miss the point, but that's OK. Carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVH Rulz View Post
    Yeah, I do that sometimes.

    I don't come here a lot, but it would be nice if it didn't feel like a trip into hell all the time.
    It's all about location, location, location... But you have to pass through hell in order to make the trip down to the Roth Army...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVH Rulz View Post
    You miss the point, but that's OK. Carry on...
    No, I got it. We're good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    No, I got it. We're good.
    That's too bad. I was hoping to expound on my theory further. LOL.

    It was more about a general way to live than specific to VH fans, but here is where I was at the time.

    I'm out for the day! Have a great holiday weekend! Don't think too hard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVH Rulz View Post
    I didn't buy the new album.
    It's terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    I don't see what the problem is. True fans judging Dave harshly, as requested.
    The irony of such a statement. Any "true fan" knows Dave can't sing - he never could. Van Halen existed on a simple pattern of Eddie's blazing guitar while the faggy dragon pants bass player and the ugly-as-fuck drummer pounded out a beat for him. All Dave had to do was play the bullshit rock star card until he either couldn't or no longer wanted to. His voice was always total shit. Even Dylan sings better than your homoerotic spandex boy. Eddie and his rhythm section always had to adjust to Dave's lack of talent. Now, the hiring of F A T Spammy and the other dude didn't fair any better - other then stronger commercial sales during the 80's into early 90's. Do you see the issue here?

    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    So much recently that Heater's head must be popping off in delight. Do you you really think this is the only fan site where fans are Monday morning quarterbacking every move a band or artist makes? That's a commonality to all fan sites. Is this place hell? Hell no. Just a place filled with passionate fans and a handful of trolls. I consider the RA to be a nice addition to my great life, with the exception of some of the shit I've seen in the Frontline. So take it all in stride, Rulz.
    For the last time. Your precious band died in 1985 That's 30 years ago! Get the fuck over it. Move on. Your bullshit heydays of the "Great VH" are never coming back. Look at Dave today. He's a fucking embarrassment to any "true fan" with his arthritic stage shuffling and pre-Parkinson jitters; disjointed singing and slurring words while trying hide it all under the guise of a few "Wooooooooo's." PA-THE-TIC. He's F A T, bald, and all the alcohol and groupie pussy destroyed him. His timing is shot, yet you "true fans" look at this wreckage of a human being and continue to cheer him on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    For the last time. Your precious band died in 1985 That's 30 years ago! Get the fuck over it. Move on. Your bullshit heydays of the "Great VH" are never coming back. Look at Dave today. He's a fucking embarrassment to any "true fan" with his arthritic stage shuffling and pre-Parkinson jitters; disjointed singing and slurring words while trying hide it all under the guise of a few "Wooooooooo's." PA-THE-TIC. He's F A T, bald, and all the alcohol and groupie pussy destroyed him. His timing is shot, yet you "true fans" look at this wreckage of a human being and continue to cheer him on.
    Kristy, hittin' hard with a different kind of truth! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    Kristy, hittin' hard with a different kind of truth! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
    One thing he's not is fat. Boy could hang glide on a Dorito.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    Kristy, hittin' hard with a different kind of truth! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
    Thanks. I wrote that while high.


    Fuck me, I still am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Thanks. I wrote that while high.


    Fuck me, I still am.
    Your punishment towards the idiotic masses is the only thing interesting about this place.

    Anyone who is F A T and posts here 24 hours a day deserves it... lol

    Keep getting high and laying the smack down to these fools
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    You need help, WARF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    You need help, WARF.
    gimme that tubbie custard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVH Rulz View Post

    I don't come here a lot, but it would be nice if it didn't feel like a trip into hell all the time.
    You say that as if it were a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    You need help, WARF.
    duck!!!

    https://s.yimg.com/cd/diminuendo/1.0...3d6956d467.gif
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    That's the way to dump a fat lass
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    That's the way to dump a fat lass
    or even an alleged thin hipster

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    Sorry for the tubbie custard Sesh lol

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    no he isn't

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    YO Pete, have you ever made a post longer than 10 words? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    YO Pete, have you ever made a post longer than 10 words? lol
    yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    Sorry for the tubbie custard Sesh lol
    Technically a banable post up for 3 hours, I don't seem to be able to get proper staff around here these days...
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    Shows you how many have warf on ignore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Technically a banable post up for 3 hours, I don't seem to be able to get proper staff around here these days...
    Haha you can ban for three hours....??

    I don't wanna go back to my old ways... I just get excited when Kristy takes on the whole board and spits truth about out toastermaster general....

    If Dave starts singing again properly I'll be the first to praise him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    The irony of such a statement. Any "true fan" knows Dave can't sing - he never could. Van Halen existed on a simple pattern of Eddie's blazing guitar while the faggy dragon pants bass player and the ugly-as-fuck drummer pounded out a beat for him. All Dave had to do was play the bullshit rock star card until he either couldn't or no longer wanted to. His voice was always total shit. Even Dylan sings better than your homoerotic spandex boy. Eddie and his rhythm section always had to adjust to Dave's lack of talent. Now, the hiring of F A T Spammy and the other dude didn't fair any better - other then stronger commercial sales during the 80's into early 90's. Do you see the issue here?



    For the last time. Your precious band died in 1985 That's 30 years ago! Get the fuck over it. Move on. Your bullshit heydays of the "Great VH" are never coming back. Look at Dave today. He's a fucking embarrassment to any "true fan" with his arthritic stage shuffling and pre-Parkinson jitters; disjointed singing and slurring words while trying hide it all under the guise of a few "Wooooooooo's." PA-THE-TIC. He's F A T, bald, and all the alcohol and groupie pussy destroyed him. His timing is shot, yet you "true fans" look at this wreckage of a human being and continue to cheer him on.
    I'm a true fan of this band's music. Dave was once a great singer. Not anymore. I'm not sure why you're calling me out as being one who expects the 80's again. Go change your bong water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    no he isn't
    I was thinking the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Technically a banable post up for 3 hours, I don't seem to be able to get proper staff around here these days...
    I'd do it, yet shit, I have roughly between 9 and 10 hours of racing to watch tomorrow, on top of cooking not one, but TWO complete dinners (with so-called "unexpected visitors" arriving and wishing to bunk down with us...yes, they are known as relatives) for Sunday and Monday. Plus, I have yard work and laundry to take care of, and now I have to do an unexpected oil change on the car.

    If I get a chance to be even remotely close to a keyboard during this "most wonderful time of the year" (these pricks really expect breakfast, BBQ and beer too, on top of staying in my bed as I bunk down on a couch ), PM me, as I'll be so full of angst that I'll be willing to take down anything.
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    Nothing is wrong with the band these days as long as you don't approach what they do now with the level of expectations you may have had when they were peaking 30+ years ago. Frankly, even if Anthony hadn't left the group, what they've done since Dave came back onboard 8 years ago would have produced pretty much the same results.

    They had a chance in 1996 to do a full-on reunion while time was still sort of on their side and there was a lot more creative juice and energy left in the tank than there was by the time 2007 rolled around.

    The band just waited too long to get their shit together. By the time they (mostly) did, all they were capable of doing is what they're doing now. Just the standard ''rockin' as best we can considering we ain't what we used to be greatest hits Van Halen experience" concert dates. Less than 100% of the definitive lineup, with a viable creative future no longer in the cards. With that, Van Halen have joined the ranks of a lot of other aging rock bands still working the livenation arena circuit.

    As a fan, you either accept it and try and look for diamonds in the dog shit, or you choose not to accept it because you feel what's being offered today are mere zircons compared to the heyday and are just thankful that what they did way back when still has some meaning and resonance.

    I'm sitting this round of concert dates out because it looks like more of the same that was being offered 3 and 7 years ago. Ed still seems as well-rehearsed as he did on the 2012 dates. Dave, sadly, has just passed the point of being entertaining for me. This is coming from someone who saw him nearly every time I could when he came around during the lean years of 1999-2006, when he was performing at local Ribfests and small theaters. Dave held together a show in 2008 that saw Eddie fumbling around in a drunken stupor. In 2012, Dave just couldn't provide what was needed anymore. How many concessions am I supposed to give when the band are still charging premium prices just because I thought they were the fucking bomb in the 1980s? Dave can't move like he used to? Okay. Dave can't scream anymore? Okay. When it comes down to an inability of Dave even being able to sing the tunes without sounding awful - when that's all I would ask as a paying fan (and this is far from unreasonable on my part) - I'm done. Van Halen is over. Seeing Eddie play reasonably well considering how fucked up he was for so long by itself isn't worth $100 a ticket when Dave is delivering shitty sounding vocals. At that point, I'm paying to see living legends rather than to see a good show. And these guys need to earn my money. I don't pay a premium to watch icons perform unless they can deliver the goods.

    A retort to my attitude might well be along the lines of "relax, stop taking it so seriously, and just go to enjoy the show" but I really couldn't enjoy it the last time around on the ADKOT tour because Roth either can't or just won't (either amounts to the same thing) sing properly anymore. Nothing has changed from the recent tv appearances I saw this spring. What they're doing now is not just no longer special anymore to me, it's pretty much unlistenable. I don't even get a positive wave of nostalgia seeing them perform now. Just a reminder that they were once the greatest rock band around for me, that this was a long time ago, and...that's pretty much it. Sad in a way, but Van Halen have just outlived their usefulness for me.

    Thankfully, the 6-pack is as potent as it ever was.
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    I just don't know anyone outside the Army who really digs Van Halen anymore

    Wrong bro!!
    Last night I was at the Steel Panther show and it was full of young kids and yes Older fans as well it was bout 75% was young between 25-30
    Just minutes before Panther hit the stage RWTD Started playing and you know what the whole place erupted in unison singing to the song....Even Joey Fantone (back street boys) who standing next to me with some HAWT babe was singing so yeah Van Halen has a big following more than some of us realize!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Nothing is wrong with the band these days as long as you don't approach what they do now with the level of expectations you may have had when they were peaking 30+ years ago. Frankly, even if Anthony hadn't left the group, what they've done since Dave came back onboard 8 years ago would have produced pretty much the same results.

    They had a chance in 1996 to do a full-on reunion while time was still sort of on their side and there was a lot more creative juice and energy left in the tank than there was by the time 2007 rolled around.

    The band just waited too long to get their shit together. By the time they (mostly) did, all they were capable of doing is what they're doing now. Just the standard ''rockin' as best we can considering we ain't what we used to be greatest hits Van Halen experience" concert dates. Less than 100% of the definitive lineup, with a viable creative future no longer in the cards. With that, Van Halen have joined the ranks of a lot of other aging rock bands still working the livenation arena circuit.

    As a fan, you either accept it and try and look for diamonds in the dog shit, or you choose not to accept it because you feel what's being offered today are mere zircons compared to the heyday and are just thankful that what they did way back when still has some meaning and resonance.

    I'm sitting this round of concert dates out because it looks like more of the same that was being offered 3 and 7 years ago. Ed still seems as well-rehearsed as he did on the 2012 dates. Dave, sadly, has just passed the point of being entertaining for me. This is coming from someone who saw him nearly every time I could when he came around during the lean years of 1999-2006, when he was performing at local Ribfests and small theaters. Dave held together a show in 2008 that saw Eddie fumbling around in a drunken stupor. In 2012, Dave just couldn't provide what was needed anymore. How many concessions am I supposed to give when the band are still charging premium prices just because I thought they were the fucking bomb in the 1980s? Dave can't move like he used to? Okay. Dave can't scream anymore? Okay. When it comes down to an inability of Dave even being able to sing the tunes without sounding awful - when that's all I would ask as a paying fan (and this is far from unreasonable on my part) - I'm done. Van Halen is over. Seeing Eddie play reasonably well considering how fucked up he was for so long by itself isn't worth $100 a ticket when Dave is delivering shitty sounding vocals. At that point, I'm paying to see living legends rather than to see a good show. And these guys need to earn my money. I don't pay a premium to watch icons perform unless they can deliver the goods.

    A retort to my attitude might well be along the lines of "relax, stop taking it so seriously, and just go to enjoy the show" but I really couldn't enjoy it the last time around on the ADKOT tour because Roth either can't or just won't (either amounts to the same thing) sing properly anymore. Nothing has changed from the recent tv appearances I saw this spring. What they're doing now is not just no longer special anymore to me, it's pretty much unlistenable. I don't even get a positive wave of nostalgia seeing them perform now. Just a reminder that they were once the greatest rock band around for me, that this was a long time ago, and...that's pretty much it. Sad in a way, but Van Halen have just outlived their usefulness for me.

    Thankfully, the 6-pack is as potent as it ever was.

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    The Hypocrisy.

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    Terry was my Brothers name.

    I agree. It is not something I put my money on anymore. But Dave is sick. Sick is something that I still know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose View Post
    I just don't know anyone outside the Army who really digs Van Halen anymore

    Wrong bro!!
    Last night I was at the Steel Panther show and it was full of young kids and yes Older fans as well it was bout 75% was young between 25-30
    Just minutes before Panther hit the stage RWTD Started playing and you know what the whole place erupted in unison singing to the song....Even Joey Fantone (back street boys) who standing next to me with some HAWT babe was singing so yeah Van Halen has a big following more than some of us realize!!
    You didn't quote me but I said that. You misunderstood my point. I didn't say Van Halen doesn't have fans outside the Army. I said I don't know any. No one I know listens to VH anymore therefore I don't have anyone to see the show with.

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    You got no friends and you blame van halen yeah ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose View Post
    I just don't know anyone outside the Army who really digs Van Halen anymore

    Wrong bro!!
    Last night I was at the Steel Panther show and it was full of young kids and yes Older fans as well it was bout 75% was young between 25-30
    Just minutes before Panther hit the stage RWTD Started playing and you know what the whole place erupted in unison singing to the song....Even Joey Fantone (back street boys) who standing next to me with some HAWT babe was singing so yeah Van Halen has a big following more than some of us realize!!
    Just because people attending a rock show are familiar with a rock song that has been on the radio for 30+ years, doesn't mean they are fanatics of that particular group or part of some following. Even if the place "erupted" as you say it did, that doesn't mean the place was all of a sudden diehard VH fans.
    Also, FORD PM'ed me about how you said Joey Fatone was a Backstreet Boy, he was in N'SYNC, I looked it up, he was right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    You got no friends and you blame van halen yeah ?
    Nope. I blame the BCE. They're evil incarnate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heater View Post
    Also, FORD PM'ed me about how you said Joey Fatone was a Backstreet Boy, he was in N'SYNC, I looked it up, he was right.
    Ford would know. He's a big fan of boy bands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Ford would know. He's a big fan of boy bands.
    Yeah, and you're gullible enough to believe Bleater?

    I don't know about FORD, but I can appreciate boy bands. Their "music" is a great tool for tormenting the damned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heater View Post
    Just because people attending a rock show are familiar with a rock song that has been on the radio for 30+ years, doesn't mean they are fanatics of that particular group or part of some following. Even if the place "erupted" as you say it did, that doesn't mean the place was all of a sudden diehard VH fans.

    I think it eventually boils down to what your individual definition of 'diehard' is.....

    No doubt, regardless of what group you're discussing, the typical fan is not going to visit message boards of their favorite band each and every day, in fact several times a day, like we idiots do.....

    But one thing that Van Halen still does have is that they can pump out 2 full hours of great music, albeit with strained vocals nowadays, regardless of whether you're going as a casual or diehard fan....

    Moreover, I think VH's songs appeal to the casual fans much more relative to other bands because, as you say, at this stage they're basically 'sing-alongs' from 30 years on the radio, even though many are hard rockers....

    By the way, that last tidbit is the main reason why Van HALEN is a unanimous knockout winner over Van HAGAR.... The people have spoken, where 90% of the Van Halen songs you hear are from the REAL Van Halen, and not the Hagaritas.....
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