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    Yeah, well, In Touch magazine may not have had any motivations in breaking the story beyond rummaging through the private lives of public figures to make a few bucks, and the people who initially reported the allegations to the production team of Oprah Winfrey's show may have also had motives that weren't altruistic.
    None of that excuses what the family has done. That remains true regardless of their political, vocational and religious lifestyles. In terms of wanting to destroy the Duggars, I would argue that once the family decided to cover up what happened then went on to take money by representing themselves on national tv as something they weren't by not including the whole picture, this outcome was inevitable. After the close call they had with this situation being made known nationally in 2006 via their experience with Oprah Winfrey's show, you'd think they would have left well enough alone and literally counted their blessings that it wasn't found out then. But nope, they kept reaching for more fame and money despite the near brush 9 years ago with exactly what is happening now.
    Chalk another one up to hubris. Doesn't the bible mention pride and greed as 2 of the 7 deadly sins? I guess Jim Bob was too busy shuttling Josh away to work on houses for 4 months as part of his "therapy" to have read that chapter of the Good Book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    I agree it was morally wrong for the Duggars to protect their son from prosecution for fondling his sisters and possibly other girls but in doing so they were also protecting the girls he molested. I'm not saying that was their motivation but now the victims are going to have to relive the experience all over again. The unnamed victims outside the family (if their were any) are probably freaking out thinking their names will soon be made public too. Oprah and her people handled the situation respectfully. But the people that are behind outing Duggar now don't give a fuck about the victims. They just want to crucify the Duggars because they don't agree with their politics and lifestyle.
    A child molester should always be brought to justice, just because a victim represses memories and emotions it doesn't mean they are not there or haunting them. Prosecute and/or castrate the sick fucker and let the healing begin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    A child molester should always be brought to justice, just because a victim represses memories and emotions it doesn't mean they are not there or haunting them. Prosecute and/or castrate the sick fucker and let the healing begin.
    I agree with you but the parents would have to tell the cops some of their daughters had been molested by one of their sons and have it become public knowledge. They'd be having their own son arrested while destroying their daughters reputations at the same time. I wouldn't feel sorry for the boy but the sisters would having nothing to gain by it. Do you think they're happy everyone knows their brother fondled them now?
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    Did the guy fondle or in any way abuse any minor he became an adult?

    If so, it's very simple, but unfortunately, nobody seems to want to accept my idea of ripping paedophiles apart & feeding all the bits to stray dogs under their impaled heads.

    If he only did it as a minor, he should've been punished then. Since he wasn't, the PARENTS should be punished TODAY exactly as he would've been punished back then.

    It's all very simple. Why the fuck judges & other assorted piles of shit overcomplicate things? Oh, because they're paedos as well. Sorry, I forgot.

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    FORD was actually correct. They should do what JC said to do - hang a millstone around his neck and drown him at sea. (Matthew 18:6)
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    Ford, are you using your alts to agree with & validate an opinion that you posted already?

    I worry about you, man. You should try to relax a bit more. Turn off the news for a week, forget about politics.

    You'll do yourself a mischief at this rate.

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    Well, then I'll let Josh's daddy say what should happen to him.......


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    Some people believe the universe is ruled by a figment of their deranged, diseased imagination. Others believe in shit like karma or whatever the fuck & make up a point system.

    The truth is much simpler. The universe is controlled by the strongest force of all. Pure, undiluted, cruel, Irony. An unthinking, uncaring force that simply devastates each & every living thing.

    Quod Erat Demonstratum.

    You can be overwhelmed by it or ride the torrent & chuckle along with it. It's not funny - it never is. But it's your only option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Well, then I'll let Josh's daddy say what should happen to him.......

    Let me get this right. You agree with this guy? You're a closet tea bagger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    Prosecute and/or castrate the sick fucker and let the healing begin.
    Castrating without prosecuting sounds like vigilante justice to me. Wouldn't a necktie party be more sanitary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Let me get this right. You agree with this guy? You're a closet tea bagger.
    No, I'm the Devil. And the little puke is going to end up as my dragons' chew toy one way or the other, so they might as well get it over with and send him down to Hell already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    I agree with you but the parents would have to tell the cops some of their daughters had been molested by one of their sons and have it become public knowledge. They'd be having their own son arrested while destroying their daughters reputations at the same time. I wouldn't feel sorry for the boy but the sisters would having nothing to gain by it. Do you think they're happy everyone knows their brother fondled them now?
    Was happy even an option once the sick fucker touched them to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Castrating without prosecuting sounds like vigilante justice to me. Wouldn't a necktie party be more sanitary?
    Noose, bullet, knife, all just details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    Was happy even an option once the sick fucker touched them to begin with?
    I don't know. Only they know that. Let me rephrase my question. Do you think they feel better now everyone knows they were molested?

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    It will take years for the healing, if ever. At least now the healing can start instead of being a deep, dark, secret that eats at them forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    Noose, bullet, knife, all just details.
    He deserved to be punished or at least professionally counseled then. A case could be made that the parents should be punished for not allowing that to happen. That's probably not gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    It will take years for the healing, if ever. At least now the healing can start instead of being a deep, dark, secret that eats at them forever.
    Everyone knows now so the healing can start? Too many people already knew what happened to them then. The girls told the cops what happened to them back then. Other people knew it happened then. Now everybody knows. That's better?

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    The things Josh Duggar did are subjects which are better off confronted.

    Like TFM_Dale said, at least now that these things are out in the open the family and the victims can deal with them much easier than if they are kept shrouded in darkness as some shameful secret.

    However, the more one hears about the particulars of this story, the less one wants to know. I don't know how child welfare workers who deal with sexual abuse could ever do what they do for a living. On a psychological level, I don't think I could handle even hearing about the particulars of multiple cases day in and day out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    The things Josh Duggar did are subjects which are better off confronted.

    Like TFM_Dale said, at least now that these things are out in the open the family and the victims can deal with them much easier than if they are kept shrouded in darkness as some shameful secret.

    However, the more one hears about the particulars of this story, the less one wants to know. I don't know how child welfare workers who deal with sexual abuse could ever do what they do for a living. On a psychological level, I don't think I could handle even hearing about the particulars of multiple cases day in and day out.
    Should have been confronted then or now? Then would have been much better IMO. It wasn't exactly a secret then or since then to the victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Everyone knows now so the healing can start? Too many people already knew what happened to them then. The girls told the cops what happened to them back then. Other people knew it happened then. Now everybody knows. That's better?
    How can it be worse? They are dealing with being molested, being abused by somebody they trusted and that should have been protecting them. The only better is if it had never happened, now all that can be hoped for is these girls get the help and counseling they need. You are looking for a perfect answer in this sick story and their isn't one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    How can it be worse?
    Everybody they know knows now. How many of those people are gonna speculate whether they liked it or nor, whether they asked for it or not? Having everyone know is not a bonus for them in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Everybody they know knows now. How many of those people are gonna speculate whether they liked it or nor, whether they asked for it or not? Having everyone know is not a bonus for them in any way.
    If they asked a relative to molest them? Really? If they liked it? Really? Come on man, you honestly have to know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    If they asked a relative to molest them? Really? If they liked it? Really? Come on man, you honestly have to know better.
    I know how people think. So do you. People say victims asked for it all the time.

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    Society can't cater to the sick fuckers that say a victim of rape or molestation asked for it. When a crime is committed the victim is the one that needs the love and support, I have no sympathy for a child molester or rapist, they deserve whatever they get if not worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    When a crime is committed the victim is the one that needs the love and support, I have no sympathy for a child molester or rapist, they deserve whatever they get if not worse.
    I agree. They needed love and support then and now not unwanted publicity now. That's what they're really getting. Unwanted publicity.

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    The whole family was on a reality TV show, somebody wanted the publicity to begin with. You live your life in the public and legal matters get magnified by the media. It is a known risk when you sign that TV contract. Do the kids get the shit end of the stick because the parents make the decision for them? Of course they do, but the family knew their life would be lived in the spotlight and under a microscope the second the first show aired. You can't decide to be on a reality TV show then decide you don't want the publicity when one of the cast turns out to be a molester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    You can't decide to be on a reality TV show then decide you don't want the publicity when one of the cast turns out to be a molester.
    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Why not?
    If you are on a reality TV show you are obviously looking for attention, do you not agree with that? I think you are trying to be the world's worst lawyer just trying to get someone to agree with anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    What has any of this got to do with the Duggar dude forcibly fondling girls when he was 15? Why is the term child molestation being used when the age of the victim isn't being told? Like I said I'd need a little more info before I joined his lynching party. For all I know he was just a teenage boy getting handsy with a teenage girl who didn't like it. If he was fondling little girls that's a different story. But it doesn't specify how old the girl or girls were.
    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    That's more like it. The police report while hard to read did indicate several people were questioned about being touched inapropriately by another person and indicated they had been. The investigating officer concluded that none of these things happened within the statute of limitations and the case was closed. Sometime later Josh Duggar confessed to some wrongdoing but didn't go into specifics.
    In conclusion I see these facts. A 14 year old boy inapropriately touched several girls. Some or all of them were his sisters. Some on the breasts, some on the buttocks, some on their vagina. I'm not clear on when the parents found out but they did and chose not to turn their son in but they did seperate him from his victims eventually. When confronted about the allegations in the police report Duggar confessed.
    That's some bad shit right there but it was quite a few years ago and Duggar was a 14 year old boy not a grown man when he did these things. It doesn't excuse what he did but what if anything could or should be done about it now? If I was his wife I damn sure wouldn't trust him to be alone with my children but that doesn't mean he has done anything of that nature since then. Ford thinks we should lynch the guy. What would that accomplish? Would Ford give a shit if the guy wasn't a conservative? Fuck no. But it advances his agenda that all conservatives are evil and liberals do no wrong. Nick started this thread claiming Duggar was a rapist. If he had just accused him of what he had actually done that would have been bad enough for Duggar but he had to enbellish. Then Ford had to tie the BCE into it to further his agenda. Congratulations. You've made your point but you couldn't just stick to the facts even though the facts were on your side. Duggar and family are gonna pay dearly. This won't blow over like the duck peoples shit did. Anyone who trys to back this guy up now is gonna look like they aprove of child molestation.
    Thanx Twonabomber. At least you put a little effort into proving your case.
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    That might be why In Touch did the story but who tipped them off to it? The people behind the outing doesn't necessarily mean the people who broke the news.
    You start by being almost sympathetic for the sick fucker that committed these acts then moved on to "well now the media blew it up and what about the victims". You yourself wanted more evidence and when it was provided for you you switched angles. I know you don't support what this sick fucker did but it seems you just move on to a new point as old points are shot down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    You start by being almost sympathetic for the sick fucker that committed these acts then moved on to "well now the media blew it up and what about the victims". You yourself wanted more evidence and when it was provided for you you switched angles. I know you don't support what this sick fucker did but it seems you just move on to a new point as old points are shot down.
    I asked fo more evidence. True. It was provided. True. I said the media blew it up. Not true. I said the people behind the outing don't give a fuck about the victims. Read the last quote again. I agree with damn near everything you do except that this somehow benefitted the victims.

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    Fair enough. I'll file Duggary with other Fordisms like tea baggers, Nuttyyahoo, mittens, Darth Cheney, Chimpy and thousands of other witty Fordisms. Fordisms help keep the conversation on an adult level. I bet they you could fill an entire thread with Fordisms. Don't forget repuke and repubtards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Fair enough. I'll file Duggary with other Fordisms like tea baggers, Nuttyyahoo, mittens, Darth Cheney, Chimpy and thousands of other witty Fordisms. Fordisms help keep the conversation on an adult level. I bet they you could fill an entire thread with Fordisms. Don't forget repuke and repubtards.
    Well, first of all, I'm not Dan Savage, so you shouldn't credit me for something he came up with (though I wish I had invented the Santorum google bomb. That was fucking brilliant)

    The teabaggers named themselves that (then tried to deny it once they were aware of the term's "other" definition). NuttyYahoo? Yeah, I'll take credit for that one. Mittens and Darth Cheney are fairly common though, so I doubt I was the first to use that one. And "Chimpy".... well the credit for that one obviously goes to the guy who put up the original "Bush or Chimp" site, which correctly showed, through photographic evidence, exactly how much that warmongering imbecile resembled an actual chimpanzee.

    Now if you want to go with some actual "FORDisms", you could mention terms like "sheep", "chedhead", "Ched Rocker", and a certain nickname for yourself, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Now if you want to go with some actual "FORDisms", you could mention terms like "sheep", "chedhead", "Ched Rocker"
    Ched Rocker maybe. Chedhead for a fan of the Ched Rocker maybe. Sheep. No. You might use it but you weren't one of the first million to use it a synonem for a follower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    which correctly showed, through photographic evidence, exactly how much that warmongering imbecile resembled an actual chimpanzee.
    Hmmmm.... been some similar comparisons made over the past 4+ years. Why no need to call the incumbent "chimpy"? Convenient. *

    * I could give a fuck really, but find it ironic that the president who really does resemble a monkey the most isn't described as such. White guilt much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VetteLS5 View Post
    Hmmmm.... been some similar comparisons made over the past 4+ years. Why no need to call the incumbent "chimpy"? Convenient. *

    * I could give a fuck really, but find it ironic that the president who really does resemble a monkey the most isn't described as such. White guilt much?
    Or maybe it's because he doesn't come across as a muddled-mouth, unintelligent fuckhead irregardless of what you think of his policies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Or maybe it's because he doesn't come across as a muddled-mouth, unintelligent fuckhead irregardless of what you think of his policies...
    Otherwise you'd call him Chimpy? Racist bastard.

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