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    EVH: Billboard Mag Cover Story Sneak Peek Via VHND

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    Hey no shit there is no relationship , better than the whole my new brother bullshit he used to pull.
    Oh Roth the voice of van halen ... Cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Hey no shit there is no relationship , better than the whole my new brother bullshit he used to pull.
    Oh Roth the voice of van halen ... Cool
    ... except it seems that Ed is the voice of VH, as far as communicating with the public goes ... I'm still curious as to why there have been no interviews with Dave, especially since the live album was "his choice" (as Ed has said many times).
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    That's photoshopped...

    The original was this:

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    Ed, just retire already if your heart isn't in it. I could give a fuck about Mike anymore, but what the people want is not a half-hearted effort, not to hear you don't even want to be there. Let Dave and Wolf move on and you and Al can sit at home and sue people until your heart is content!
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    [QUOTE=philouze;1887467]That's photoshopped...

    The original was this:

    [IMG]http://gerarddesuresnes.fr/wp


    Ed should look so good these days.
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    At least Ed finally came to the realization that a Roth-fronted Van Halen is what the fans want to see.

    If only he had came to this realization 20 years ago, when there was still a decent amount of juice left in the tank for him and Dave to operate off of, there might have been a more productive reunion. As it is, both of these guys are running on close to vapor these days.

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    Here's what I posted at the VHND this AM. It was dumped within 5 minutes...


    Well he's certainly changed his mind over the years. He never wanted to be a nostalgia act. I for one am glad Dave is back in, but these quotes pretty much solidify the fact that he's going through the motions. Call me selfish, but I wish he had a better relationship with Dave and that they were creating new music that they could grow with. I always wanted to believe that VH could be a decent functioning band again like way back when. Not the case. To them, this band is their job. Something they never would have called it 35 years ago.
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    I will hold on making any accurate evaluation of this interview till I read the whole interview because it obviously insinuates a lot for publicity by adding the reviewer's own assumptions before the quotes to shift them into some kind of melodramatic bullshit the media seems allowed to do now without sticking to the facts. Comments by the reviewer like Ed has to "soldier on" alongside David when Ed simply then states they do not hang much together but hardly ever says in what is shown that they hate one another. One can say what they want, but for all the money Hagar has accumulated by name association (and he does it constantly for justification to promote and a dead give away he is one of the most insecure fucks on the planet who knows he will never be great but still wants membership in the real circle of rock legends), Sam sucks at legal choices and unlike Dave, he did not seem to have a separate copyright listed to his creations with Van Halen like Roth did. I think he should be allowed to do his crappy Van Hager music to his paranoid heart's content but he was probably a dumb ass with the copyright permissions when he joined the group. Now if Edward really wanted to make a statement, I think he could if he really did not give a shit about the music. Tell Hagar he can perform all the music he helped created. Remaster all those shitty Hagar induced Van Halen LPs, but for the actual purpose of releasing them with the name Van Halen changed on them and call them Van Hagar... stripping from him any direct link to the classic music which is Van Halen and make it apparent by the name Van Hagar when those crappy LPs are cited
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    “I think it’s now built into people’s DNA, that it just won’t be Van Halen if it’s not Roth’s voice,” he explains. “You make music for people. Otherwise, just play in your closet. And how do you reach the most people? By giving them the band that they know. To do it any other way would be selfish.”
    Interesting... is there any other place where the message that it ain't Van Halen without David Lee Roth has been belligerently shouted as loudly and proudly as it has here and for brief time at DDLR.com..?

    I believe our demographic has been heard...
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    Here's the main article....

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    Holy hell, I don't know even where to start, so many controversial topics in there....

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    And truthfully, Ed is sort of schizophrenic and the best way to coexist with him is not to get too close to him or he has more fuel to include you in his angst... I think the accurate thing to say is Dave cannot be your friend Edward, because the people you attempt to call friends also end up becoming your target, Edward is the Stalin of band relations lol

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    To be fair I think Dave is as cool as the next person but you wouldn't wanna be in a room for long with him never mind be his friend.

    Dave tuning up ... Me me me me me .

    It would wear thin pretty quick .

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    Reading the whole interview, you just can't help but think that he's really got it in for Mike.

    What he says makes no sense, really - Mike had to come over and video record Ed playing the parts before going on tour?? Really?! I am not buying it for a minute. Does that mean Ed played all those bass parts in the studio, too, cos - y'know - Mike having to learn them to go on tour sort of implies that??

    But, apart from that ... and strangely-enough ... I liked the article - he's certainly speaking his mind.

    I find him, aside from the meanness towards Mike, to be likeable these days. I don't think a bit of tension in the band is a bad thing, if that's what the comments about Dave reflect. But who the hell knows what's really going on in terms of the lack of new music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    To be fair I think Dave is as cool as the next person but you wouldn't wanna be in a room for long with him never mind be his friend.

    Dave tuning up ... Me me me me me .

    It would wear thin pretty quick .
    I actually do not think Dave is all about "me me me" when it comes to his contributions to the band, but I do think his inability to simply stop talking would turn some people off... especially when it gets compounded with a character like Edward's who cannot handle much conversation lol

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    I found it amusing that he has Google Alerts set up for anything that mentions Van Halen - so much for Ed not taking an interest in the Internet. I can just picture him sitting up at 5150, thinking, "Why the fuck won't Dave be my friend, goddam it. I need to set up a Google Alert to find out what the hell he is saying about me ..."

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    Well, Eddie has always had a somewhat different take on Van Halen than whatever the general consensus was. Then again, am I gonna believe Eddie Van Halen or someone who wasn't even in or directly working for the band? With Ed, it's hard to say.

    I mean, in mid-2011 Ed gave an interview in which he said it wasn't even worth it anymore to put out any new material, so he wasn't going to bother recording anything new. 6 months later, ADKOT is released.

    And, yeah, the whole idea of Ed having to teach Mike his bass parts via Mike video recording them prior to the band hitting the road...it just sounds like bullshit. Such a thing WOULD imply Mike didn't play on the albums (why would he have to be taught his bass parts by Eddie otherwise?), and I don't believe that is true. I can easily believe Eddie dictated some of the bass parts to Mike during rehearsals/recording, though.

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    “He does not want to be my friend,” Van Halen says, seemingly bemused. “How can I put this: Roth’s perception of himself is different than who he is in reality. We’re not in our 20s anymore. We’re in our 60s. Act like you’re 60. I stopped coloring my hair, because I know I’m not going to be young again.”

    Eddie would love to make another Van Halen album, but that plan has obstructions. “It’s hard, because there are four people in this band, and three of us like rock’n’roll. And one of us likes dance music,” he says. “And that used to kind of work, but now Dave doesn’t want to come to the table.”
    This confirms my observations that there's no personal relationship between Ed and Dave.

    It does raise an obvious question... Dave spent a whole decade from 1996 -2006 strategically positioning himself to return to Van Halen and sold the world on it being an "inevitable" reality. He wins his seat back at the table and now he won't sit down or is so lost he can't find the table..? WTF?

    I know that this piece is through Ed's blurry reality goggles... but clearly Roth's recent antics and disconnection from the rest of the world raises some questions on his state of mind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    It does raise an obvious question... Dave spent a whole decade from 1996 -2006 strategically positioning himself to return to Van Halen and sold the world on it being an "inevitable" reality. He wins his seat back at the table and now he won't sit down or is so lost he can't find the table..? WTF?
    I think Dave was campaigning to get back into VH earlier than 1996...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    I think Dave was campaigning to get back into VH earlier than 1996...
    I think you are right... it's probably the rise of the internet that made the subject much more prevalent in popular discussion among those of us with an interest.

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    Dull. And more dull.


    Eddie no longer uses drugs since 2008. Who-da-fuck-cares? If he was a proper rock star he would have overdosed before the Spammy years. Eddie dresses "normcore." Golly! What insight! The guy looks like a total berk. Again with the god damn fucking millionaire rock stars and their mundane lives. Watching paint dry in a dentist office holds more interest than that junk journalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    I found it amusing that he has Google Alerts set up for anything that mentions Van Halen - so much for Ed not taking an interest in the Internet. I can just picture him sitting up at 5150, thinking, "Why the fuck won't Dave be my friend, goddam it. I need to set up a Google Alert to find out what the hell he is saying about me ..."

    I have Google Alerts set up for "Van Halen" and "David Lee Roth", and I don't believe I've ever seen anything from here generate an Alert.....

    And that's a good thing.... I doubt some (read: most) of the things said here, for ALL band members, past, present and future, would want to be read by them....


    I don't know, there have been so many variations in The Story™ from everyone that I don't know what or whom to believe anymore....

    I mean, the whole "He does not want to be my friend” statement is so bizarre on one hand based on the vitriol spewed from the brothers toward DLR after the breakup, but on the other hand there are those here that know DLR's associates that admit that good 'ol Dave often times is no cupcake to work for.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post

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    on the other hand there are those here that know DLR's associates that admit that good 'ol Dave often times is no cupcake to work for.....
    because he is a goddam fruitcake, mate ...! Ho ho. Would love to be a fly on the wall when those two get together

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    I think there's a degree of respect and affection between Roth and the Van Halens. If that respect rests more on their history together than anything they've been doing since 2006 is a bit of a gray area. I mean, you didn't hear Dave publicly bagging on Ed's diminished abilities displayed nightly in 2008, although clearly he could have.

    I've worked with some of the same people for nearly 15 years, and while I have respect for their professional abilities and what they bring to the table in terms of the job, I've never had the slightest bit of interest in spending 5 seconds with them outside of the work environment. By all accounts, Ed and Hagar got along great as friends during the first three or so Sam Halen years. That level of friendship didn't translate into making great music as far as my ears were concerned.

    Plus, Ed is as cuckoo as a clock when it comes to personal relationships and how people relate to one another. Frankly, Ed relates to his guitars and playing music better than he does to how humans interact. Therefore, Ed may well fell that Roth isn't interested in being his friend where that may not be the case. Maybe Roth would like to have a closer personal relationship to Ed, but is wary because Ed is slightly nuts. Who the fuck knows? Maybe Roth is also a moody loner beyauch. I've heard that description attached to him by more than one person over the years.

    I don't think it's a hate scene. It more of a case of these guys having been able to create great music together, but not having much particular use for each other outside of that context. It seems like it has always been that way with them, though. They're quite a bit older, but the parameters haven't changed.

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    The two biggest "rumors" around Sobolewski's separation from the band were always 1) Because he couldn't remove his head from Sammy's ass and 2) That he didn't make any attempt to contact the brothers to pay respects when their mother passed away (while Dave, Cherone, and Hagar all apparently did so.)

    This article apparently confirms both of those stories. As far as Dave & Ed not having much of a relationship, it's sad, but hardly surprising. Dave said pretty much the same thing in his most recent interviews, and who knows if they were ever in the same studio when ADKOT was being recorded. The album turned out damn good, considering. But it also explains the "Tattoo You"/plunder the vaults vibe about the whole thing, if the only time Dave & Ed are ever in the same physical location is when they are on stage.

    Ironically, if they really don't get along, somebody should pull an Andrew Loog Oldham on them and lock them in a goddamn room together and not let them out until they write a new album. The agressive chemistry that might result would work in their favor.
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    Hmmm. I'm thinking that just maybe, some, if not all summer tour ticket holders are going to see their credit card accounts credited at some point.

    What a batch of loony birds. Dave wants to wood-shed and create music, but can't get the brothers on board. Ed claims musical differences and a lack of friendship as being a road block to progress. It really is maddening to read this shit year in and year out. Time wasting fucking babies. Shut the fuck up already! I'm actually looking forward to Wolf's CD more than this looming train-wreck of a tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Ironically, if they really don't get along, somebody should pull an Andrew Loog Oldham on them and lock them in a goddamn room together and not let them out until they write a new album. The agressive chemistry that might result would work in their favor.
    There isn't a big enough personality in the industry to do that any more. And you're comparing two songwriters at the beginning of their careers to two close to the end of theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    Reading the whole interview, you just can't help but think that he's really got it in for Mike.

    What he says makes no sense, really - Mike had to come over and video record Ed playing the parts before going on tour?? Really?! I am not buying it for a minute. .
    I agree, that part more then anything just screams BS for me....
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    Ed...man. Where to begin? So the only thing holding up a new album is Dave? I've never heard of Dave's work ethic being an issue. On the other hand, who sat on their ass for eight years (99-07) and basically did nothing (other than walk around looking like a bum)? I just don't buy this.

    As for MA, I'd never read or heard about him showing Mike how to play all the bass parts and/or Mike having to film him playing stuff. This just strains credulity. And why the continued need to tear Mike down? It's not enough that he clowns him with the "video taping the bass parts" bit, he has to get in a dig a MA's background vocals as well by basically saying that Mike's contribution was just the ability to hit high notes. So Mike was an unskilled bass player whose only "skill" was being able to hit high notes ("skill" with quotes because after all, Ed sang background vocals as well!). That's tough. Don't understand the continued animosity.

    As for his relationship with Dave, from my understanding, he and Dave have never really been friends on any sort of deeper level, even going back to Dave's first stint with the band. Ed knew what he was getting into with Dave back in '07 so spare me the Dave gripes.

    The other thing that struck was the implication that Ed is trudging along for the fans- basically putting up with Dave because the fans want to hear VH with Dave on vocals. And while that's true, this band is one of the least fan-friendly bands out there and has been for quite some time. If you're so concerned about the fans, where's all the old audio, video and unreleased stuff that fans have been clamoring about for years? Why can't new material be released more regularly (i forgot- that's Dave's fault)? Why does the set list remain largely unchanged? Why have you been playing the same solo for 35 years?

    All in all, a bit of an odd interview from an odd dude.
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    Dave actually had it right in the Slawterhouse interview posted here recently about the fans out and working their jobs that they hate just needing their band to "sell them a smile". All they do now is sell drama and I ain't buying one red cent's worth. I thought people got wiser as they aged. This present day back and forth is down right juvenile and depressing. I'm teeing up a Van Halen-free weekend. Perhaps longer. I'm disgusted with these bastards right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Dave actually had it right in the Slawterhouse interview posted here recently about the fans out and working their jobs that they hate just needing their band to "sell them a smile". All they do now is sell drama and I ain't buying one red cent's worth. I thought people got wiser as they aged. This present day back and forth is down right juvenile and depressing. I'm teeing up a Van Halen-free weekend. Perhaps longer. I'm disgusted with these bastards right now.
    just relax...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckjitsu View Post
    Ed...man. Where to begin? So the only thing holding up a new album is Dave? I've never heard of Dave's work ethic being an issue. On the other hand, who sat on their ass for eight years (99-07) and basically did nothing (other than walk around looking like a bum)? I just don't buy this.

    As for MA, I'd never read or heard about him showing Mike how to play all the bass parts and/or Mike having to film him playing stuff. This just strains credulity. And why the continued need to tear Mike down? It's not enough that he clowns him with the "video taping the bass parts" bit, he has to get in a dig a MA's background vocals as well by basically saying that Mike's contribution was just the ability to hit high notes. So Mike was an unskilled bass player whose only "skill" was being able to hit high notes ("skill" with quotes because after all, Ed sang background vocals as well!). That's tough. Don't understand the continued animosity.

    As for his relationship with Dave, from my understanding, he and Dave have never really been friends on any sort of deeper level, even going back to Dave's first stint with the band. Ed knew what he was getting into with Dave back in '07 so spare me the Dave gripes.

    The other thing that struck was the implication that Ed is trudging along for the fans- basically putting up with Dave because the fans want to hear VH with Dave on vocals. And while that's true, this band is one of the least fan-friendly bands out there and has been for quite some time. If you're so concerned about the fans, where's all the old audio, video and unreleased stuff that fans have been clamoring about for years? Why can't new material be released more regularly (i forgot- that's Dave's fault)? Why does the set list remain largely unchanged? Why have you been playing the same solo for 35 years?

    All in all, a bit of an odd interview from an odd dude.
    Eddie, Alex, Mike, and Wolfie are all pretty much aware of the fact that Dave was and always will be a loose cannon. It does seem to me that Eddie actually wants to be friends with Dave nowadays but he's being very distant. Van Halen will find a way to carry on, but even if Eddie and Dave never become close ever again.

    What I'm impressed is the fact that he admitted that he's had an issue with alcohol and drugs for most of his life, throughout the early 2000s when it was painfully obvious that his health was failing, Eddie kept maintaining that everything was fine with Van Halen and that nothing was wrong, meanwhile everybody could see that the 2004 reunion with Sammy was falling apart at the seams.

    Eddie is the epitome of a genius with a screw loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fraroc View Post
    Eddie, Alex, Mike, and Wolfie are all pretty much aware of the fact that Dave was and always will be a loose cannon...
    Shut up, Meg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Shut up, Meg.
    Shhh... Don't you fuckin' get him motherfuckin' started... Shit... He'll slit your motherfuckin' throat...

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    When I heard some of the unpolished cuts from the Live In Tokyo album I wondered if Ed decided to put that out just to showcase how bad Roth sounds now. Quite a few of the members here believe VH has plenty of live stuff that probably sounds much better (Dave sounds much better) that could have been used instead. It's fairly obvious he doesn't like Roth. Will it end at the Hollywood Bowl with Ed looking over at Dave and saying "You suck"? The band sounds great nowdays. If you were Ed and felt like he does about Dave wouldn't you consider that the perfect F U ? I wonder if Dave will respond to this interview or just suck it up until the tour is over.
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    I'm a'ight. Just need a few, 7, maybe 9 beers.

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