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    I don't mind Gen Swine. It's no Feelgood, but then it ain't New Tattoo, either.

    Skip the last song on Swine though. Makes How Many Say I sound like Mozart...
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    I'm not a big fan of some of those bands. Metallica's Black Album is about the only one I've heard in it's entirety. Totally agree with In Through The Out Door being a klinker. Rush has way too many albums to pick out one to hate but I thought they went in the wrong direction with Grace Under Pressure. I never bothered listening to VHIII so I can't really say it's their worst. #3 was hard to argue with. There wasn't anything there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    #3 was hard to argue with. There wasn't anything there.
    I laughed at that one. Also, I think Music From The Elder kicks ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I laughed at that one. Also, I think Music From The Elder kicks ass
    Compared to what KISS was putting out between 1985 and 1990, I'd sooner listen to (Music From) The Elder than, say, Asylum...or Crazy Nights...or Hot In The Shade...
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    When I saw the title of this thread, my first thought was The Elder. As a fan from the early days, that was by far the biggest disappointment for me. And everyone I knew who was a fan, hated it. Now, decades later a lot of people claim it's their favorite. I still don't hear it...sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Compared to what KISS was putting out between 1985 and 1990, I'd sooner listen to (Music From) The Elder than, say, Asylum...or Crazy Nights...or Hot In The Shade...
    I love Asylum, Crazy Nights and Hot In The Shade too. See, I'm exactly the kind of fan Kiss love. I have a pretty scary amount of useless shit with a Kiss logo or the faces on it. I have posters, pillows, blankets, jammies, glasses, coasters, playing cards, dolls, badges, fridge magnets ,perfume, I could go on.

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    But thats a cool thing db , kiss are great to their fans like them or not they put loads out their for the fans.
    Vh ....... Not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    But thats a cool thing db , kiss are great to their fans like them or not they put loads out their for the fans.
    Vh ....... Not so much.
    nope...the fans put loads to their account...which is great for them...
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    Yeah it's not charity or do you have to buy it , I just wish van halen would be more ....
    Actually I suppose I could always buy the stripy shit I always complain about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I love Crazy Nights
    It must have taken them a whole morning to write the stuff the Bon Jovi guy didn't do for them...

    "Bang Bang You"

    My love is like a cannonball,
    I'm takin' aim and you're gonna fall
    Don't hide or try to get away,
    you know the rules and you're gonna play

    [Chorus:]
    And we go one, two, three, four,
    when midnight comes, I'll be at your door
    Five, six, seven, eight, oh, oh, I just can't wait
    I'm gonna bang, bang you -
    I'll shoot you down with my love gun, baby
    Bang, bang you - I got you in the heart,
    you're gonna be mine, yeah
    Hands up, reach for the sky,
    I'll treat you good, 'cause I'm a bad guy

    If love's a crime I've got a hundred schemes
    I'll be the villain in your book of dreams

    [chorus]

    (You know what I'm talking about. Ooh, come on!)

    (Listen) - [chorus]

    Bang, bang you, I'll shoot you down with my love gun, baby
    Bang, bang you, I got you in the heart,
    you're gonna be mine, yeah

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    Laugh if you want, but that song kicks ass

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    Do you even like 'Evbody got a weason to wiv'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I love Asylum, Crazy Nights and Hot In The Shade too. See, I'm exactly the kind of fan Kiss love. I have a pretty scary amount of useless shit with a Kiss logo or the faces on it. I have posters, pillows, blankets, jammies, glasses, coasters, playing cards, dolls, badges, fridge magnets ,perfume, I could go on.
    I have a brass KISS belt buckle that I got for my birthday in the late 70s. Never used it. Yours if you want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Do you even like 'Evbody got a weason to wiv'?
    Very much. I invented a drinking game for it as it happens, You need the video though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    I have a brass KISS belt buckle that I got for my birthday in the late 70s. Never used it. Yours if you want it.
    Awesome of you Bridge, I really do appreciate the offer. I don't think I could give out a mailing address though, I'd be crazy paranoid it would fall into the wrong hands

    Thanks again for the offer though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    Awesome of you Bridge, I really do appreciate the offer. I don't think I could give out a mailing address though, I'd be crazy paranoid it would fall into the wrong hands

    Thanks again for the offer though
    I can vouch for Bridge, he and I have traded boots. He never showed up and tried to steal my car OR my cheap beer
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I can vouch for Bridge, he and I have traded boots. He never showed up and tried to steal my car OR my cheap beer
    Yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    Awesome of you Bridge, I really do appreciate the offer. I don't think I could give out a mailing address though, I'd be crazy paranoid it would fall into the wrong hands

    Thanks again for the offer though

    No prob. Next time I go to the beach I'll skip it across the ocean to ya.

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    Back on topic, sort of. That was the first time I ever watched that Elder video. That's not Ace in Ace's make-up, is it? Something just didn't look right. Oh, and thank God Paul played lead on that one. Pfft.

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    I have really tried to like KISS , I even went to one of their concerts...at the end of the 90s...they suck! Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Back on topic, sort of. That was the first time I ever watched that Elder video. That's not Ace in Ace's make-up, is it? Something just didn't look right. Oh, and thank God Paul played lead on that one. Pfft.
    There is no telling with those guys. During the filming of that cheesy Phantom of the Park tv movie, Ace got so plastered he couldn't perform. They replaced him with another actor wearing his make-up and outfit. A black actor.
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    a blacktor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    a blacktor?
    More or less.

    KISS was always pulling shit like that. Hell, Peter Criss didn't even play on the so-so Dynasty album, and when Ace failed to show up, they used Rick Derringer on it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I love Asylum, Crazy Nights and Hot In The Shade too. See, I'm exactly the kind of fan Kiss love. I have a pretty scary amount of useless shit with a Kiss logo or the faces on it. I have posters, pillows, blankets, jammies, glasses, coasters, playing cards, dolls, badges, fridge magnets ,perfume, I could go on.
    Really? To me, those three albums just felt like the band was churning out that material without any particular passion or purpose. The tunes were just sort of...generic, and agreed with others that the band were definitely hopping on the Bon Jovi template to a degree by the time Crazy Nights rolled around.

    Shit, I loved KISS back in the day. Even on comparatively weaker records like Unmasked, there was good stuff to be found. With that Asylum/Crazy Nights/Hot In The Shade trio of records, the group sounded sort of neutered. Like, you could definitely tell Paul had taken over the creative direction of the group.

    But I would have to agree that KISS do try to give their fans what they want in terms of making classic kiss material available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
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    Almost spewed my beer on the laptop...LOL

    If I was a thank'n man you would be the first.

    With all the doom and gloom Woop and his Hagarites have been spewing around here lately, that chuckle was right on time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Really? To me, those three albums just felt like the band was churning out that material without any particular passion or purpose. The tunes were just sort of...generic, and agreed with others that the band were definitely hopping on the Bon Jovi template to a degree by the time Crazy Nights rolled around.

    Shit, I loved KISS back in the day. Even on comparatively weaker records like Unmasked, there was good stuff to be found. With that Asylum/Crazy Nights/Hot In The Shade trio of records, the group sounded sort of neutered. Like, you could definitely tell Paul had taken over the creative direction of the group.

    But I would have to agree that KISS do try to give their fans what they want in terms of making classic kiss material available.
    I can see the comparison and to a degree they were kind of just churning out music that fit in with the times. In fact Kiss said themselves that they were heading in that direction, but guys like Bon Jovi were doing it better. The songs don't have the same feel of the 70's albums, but the thing is, I'm a Bon Jovi fan too, I love cheesy 80's rock . I'm a Paul fan first and foremost (shocker, right?) and his voice was amazing at that time, he really went up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Shit, I loved KISS back in the day...But I would have to agree that KISS do try to give their fans what they want in terms of making classic kiss material available.

    Yep, that Kissology Volume One: 19741977 anthology is always within arm's reach of my DVD player. The box set is terrific, yet my favorite compilation was made up of the first three albums called The Originals. It was released after Destroyer took off, and included trading cards, a booklet, album sleeves and a cool Kiss Army sticker.

    Over the years, I've added to it the two Kiss comic books, various doodads like Kiss bubblegum cards and a Fort Lauderdale News review of a show I attended in 1977.

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    The only dud on Crazy Nights is No No No. Apart from that, I love that album.
    The only KI$$ albums I don't like ("hate" is too big a word) are Gene's 1978 LP, Psycho Circus, Sonic Boom and Monster. Few good tunes here and there, but not enough to make a 12 song compilation, in my opinion.
    Other than that, I like all KI$$ albums. Yes, even Peter's 1978 one!

    Oh, and Boomerang and Heaven's on Fire are utter shite. Still my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarathecarrot View Post
    Almost spewed my beer on the laptop...LOL

    If I was a thank'n man you would be the first.

    With all the doom and gloom Woop and his Hagarites have been spewing around here lately, that chuckle was right on time.

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    As a fan of Sammy Hagar I have hated all of his albums. I would like Bon Jovi and Muse to be included in this.

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    As a fan of Sammy Hagar I have hated all of his albums. I would like Bon Jovi and Muse to be included in this.
    Muse are not so bad, if you listen to them through one speaker at low volume while watching the Food Channel. Bon Jovi, not so much. They had one good song...



    Yup, typical dumb-assed 80's vid, and they look like posing goofs. Still like the song.

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    I cant get away with muse I have tried to give them the benefit of the doubt but I cant see why they are popular.
    Bon Jovi no benefit involved

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    I cant get away with muse I have tried to give them the benefit of the doubt but I cant see why they are popular.
    Bon Jovi no benefit involved
    I hear ya vandy.

    Sometimes, a tune will strike your ear, and you have an option of saying "What the fuck is this shit"? or "Gee, that is interestingly odd."

    Frank Zappa used to do that for me: he would throw music in your face that deliberately challenged his audience in an intelligent, dignified manner.

    These boneheads? They are like Phil Collins during the 1980s=throwing all sorts of shit at the wall hoping something sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    I cant get away with muse I have tried to give them the benefit of the doubt but I cant see why they are popular.
    I liked their sound about 4 or 5 cds ago. Now, I hear nothing worth a second listen. Kinda disappointing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I can see the comparison and to a degree they were kind of just churning out music that fit in with the times. In fact Kiss said themselves that they were heading in that direction, but guys like Bon Jovi were doing it better. The songs don't have the same feel of the 70's albums, but the thing is, I'm a Bon Jovi fan too, I love cheesy 80's rock . I'm a Paul fan first and foremost (shocker, right?) and his voice was amazing at that time, he really went up there.
    Fair enough.

    I guess in the spirit of generosity I could say those three records sound weak when stacked up with the rest of what KISS did pre-1990 and leave it that that.

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    She Don't Know Me WAS actually a decent effort for a then-new band. The song stands up reasonably well today.

    My local Clear Channel classic rock station, which as one might imagine plays the same 1/2 dozen tunes by well-known rock bands over and over again, has lately taken to inserting brief audio snippets of interviews with band members in front of the songs they are playing. So, for instance, you'll get a 20 second clip of, say, Jimmy Page talking about the circumstances under which the song Black Dog was created immediately followed by (obviously) the radio station playing Black Dog.

    Am driving home the other day listening to the station, and I hear one of these audio clips of someone saying "we knew when we wrote it and rehearsed it that we were onto something special...even though it was only our first album, we KNEW that this song was destined to be a timeless classic" and I can't quite pin down the voice and identify who is speaking...I know I've heard that voice before, but can't quite figure out who it is...

    The audio clip ends, followed by the intro to Bon Jovi's Runaway, followed by my mentally trying to combine the words 'Bon Jovi' and 'special' and 'Runaway' and 'timeless classic'...followed by me spitting up Diet Coke all over my dashboard in a fit of laughter...

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    I had no idea that Bon Jovi song even had a video. The cheese factor must have been even too much for eMpTyV at the time, because I don't remember seeing it even once. Though they certainly played his other videos to death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    I had no idea that Bon Jovi song even had a video. The cheese factor must have been even too much for eMpTyV at the time, because I don't remember seeing it even once. Though they certainly played his other videos to death.
    Yeah, it has that weird/creepy "Uh-oh, what's gonna happen to that chick followed out the joint by a couple of guys" vibe that you would expect to find in a video by The Firm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    She Don't Know Me WAS actually a decent effort for a then-new band. The song stands up reasonably well today.

    My local Clear Channel classic rock station, which as one might imagine plays the same 1/2 dozen tunes by well-known rock bands over and over again, has lately taken to inserting brief audio snippets of interviews with band members in front of the songs they are playing. So, for instance, you'll get a 20 second clip of, say, Jimmy Page talking about the circumstances under which the song Black Dog was created immediately followed by (obviously) the radio station playing Black Dog.

    Am driving home the other day listening to the station, and I hear one of these audio clips of someone saying "we knew when we wrote it and rehearsed it that we were onto something special...even though it was only our first album, we KNEW that this song was destined to be a timeless classic" and I can't quite pin down the voice and identify who is speaking...I know I've heard that voice before, but can't quite figure out who it is...

    The audio clip ends, followed by the intro to Bon Jovi's Runaway, followed by my mentally trying to combine the words 'Bon Jovi' and 'special' and 'Runaway' and 'timeless classic'...followed by me spitting up Diet Coke all over my dashboard in a fit of laughter...
    Bon Jovi could never be accused of selling out, their first album was a poppy and cheesy as anything that followed.

    Apart from 'Thank You For Loving Me' which actually made me ill.

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