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    Trunk has to say he likes haggisgar it is the opposite of what most of the rest of the world thinks ..thus people listen and debate trunk ...thus he makes money.

    Van Halen is not ACDC so that line of bullshit in this thread is just that....bullshit.

    Hey look The Stones are over here ...oh yeah but once again they aren't Van Halen....so .....Bullshit.

    You cats got no smarts...probably listen to Alex Jones all day then talk about him like he is some asshole...thus people debate Jones ..thus he makes money..your the asshole....that he makes money off of...

    Ed talks people debate Ed and the band make money....any press is good press...but bad is better baby!!!!!!

    Get with the program people get a clue.....Oh and buy a ticket to VH and see a show....a good time will be had by all.

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    Oh, terrific. The thoughts of Elvis have returned, in a disembodied, somewhat fractured form.

    To celebrate, I'm going to let off some premature fireworks in my driveway, microwave a Cup 'O' Noodles, then make a giant toast with that gallon box of wine I got on sale today at Publix with free corn chips.

    First person to shoot me gets my lawnmower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's not just age.

    Compare them to AC/DC who are the same age in fact Brian Johnson is 7 years older.

    Like Roth Johnson doesn't hang with the rest of the band in between tours and recording but they look like a team. Eddie coming out with that he doesn't love me shit about Roth is fucking idiotic. It breaks the suspension of disbelief wide open, a rock gig like that is a party and if you know the people don't like each other its not good. What the fuck good result could come from that? Same x10 for the Anthony comments, what possible good could come from that? He's only doing the interview to try and sell tickets so why give lots of comments which do the exact opposite?

    Also worth pointing out that Angus Young and co seem to put a lot more into their shows physically, put more into the productions, give more interviews, fan feedback, promotion and on and on in other words it's not about age it's just more failin' of Van Halen, a band who still even in their 60s constantly make schoolboy errors and these days give it about 60% effort.
    Well, even putting the AC/DC comparison to one side, frankly none of the back and forth between current and former members of Van Halen in the press since 1985 has been particularly helpful to either the group or fans of the group. While Roth was once (and, I presume, still is) capable of giving humorous and entertaining interviews, pretty much anything EVH has had to say in print has always been peppered with comments that betray a lack of graciousness. This is hardly a recent thing, either. Even when Ed is giving interviews about his gear, with every new EVH model guitar or amp he puts out with a new company Ed always sees fit to trash the previous company he worked with.

    So, yeah, the often half-assed sense of effort the Van Halens have put on display re: their various undertakings over the last decade probably does betray a somewhat "why bother trying too hard?" mentality to a degree, but I seriously think these guys are just too old to cut the mustard in terms of energy and effectiveness now.
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    Is it a riding mower ??? I have been looking...


    I could probably estimate the trajectory from KC to FL..and just let one fly due to the earths rotation some declination issues....I will try to hit you on the top of the head.

    If I only had a rifle...or one of those SCUD missles.....ahh to much collateral.....perhaps hot wire one of these Kansas Silos....they got the nukes in em..ya know.

    But then who wants a radio actice lawn mower....ok, to many variable....never mind but thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    The school boy errors are most likely due to the lack of any effective management driving the band to take care of the necessary business aspects... productions, interviews, promotion, etc.

    At the core though, I think a key element of the dysfunction is with Edward...

    As great of a musician that he is... he's never been one to embrace and love performing like most musicians do. There's a deep seeded insecurity that he's had since even the club days. Turning his back to the audience when soloing... creating the stripped paint job so no one would steal his guitar modifications... another big one... Allowing other band members to work outside "his" band... even though it's OK for him to venture out.

    While Edward does seem to recognize his musical contributions more so as he's finding his way out of his substance abuse fog... He's still dragging enough bullshit baggage with him to fertilize the Grand Canyon. But he still has a significant issue in sharing his trade openly and happily with the world.

    Dave's not much different in a sense... while he used to be much more publicly accessible, that's fallen off significantly. He also can only collaborate musically in top secret private sessions and requires all around him to live for eternity under a cone of silence. He loves entertaining more like most musicians, but sharing a stage outside his "band" literally scares the shit out of him... His comfort zone has wider and deeper motes around him than any other public performer in the business.

    It's all such a shame... these guys can put more smiles, get more feet tapping and hips swaying than most bands on the planet. But their mind games almost make the venture too damn hard to get off the ground...

    Well, as the years have wound on, Ed and Dave pretty much come across as having the cocooned or bunker mentality at times.

    Maybe that's just how some people deal with fame and success. I mean, those two guys have been told they were the shit for the last 40 years or so. Dave seems to, at times, have a firmer grip on reality than Edward. I mean, how badly did Van Halen have to tank post-1996 before Ed woke up to the realization of what fans of the band wanted to see? Pretty fucking badly, and Ed looked like he was going to drop dead at any moment from 2001 to late 2006. The guy looked like a fucking hobo. Someone who lets themselves go THAT fucking bad for that many years clearly has several screws loose. And Dave came across just as screwy when he was touring with Hagar in terms of appearance and attitude, like he still thought it was 1985 or some such nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Oh, terrific. The thoughts of Elvis have returned, in a disembodied, somewhat fractured form.

    To celebrate, I'm going to let off some premature fireworks in my driveway, microwave a Cup 'O' Noodles, then make a giant toast with that gallon box of wine I got on sale today at Publix with free corn chips.

    First person to shoot me gets my lawnmower.
    Is that Publix wine/corn chips combo promo available statewide, or just in your county?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarathecarrot View Post
    Is it a riding mower ??? I have been looking...


    I could probably estimate the trajectory from KC to FL..and just let one fly due to the earths rotation some declination issues....I will try to hit you on the top of the head.

    If I only had a rifle...or one of those SCUD missles.....ahh to much collateral.....perhaps hot wire one of these Kansas Silos....they got the nukes in em..ya know.

    But then who wants a radio actice lawn mower....ok, to many variable....never mind but thanks,


    See ya, veggie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by philouze View Post
    Eddie Trunk, brought to you by Walmart and White Castle...
    And on his latest podcast a snake oil supplement ironically called Mental Titan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    If the people who guide him in matters of PR - if there is, indeed, any advice about that kind of stuff being offered or listened to - had a sense adventure or history, they might have advertised the tour as more of a celebration.
    Take into consideration... Ed's primary source of "people who guide him in matters of PR" is his wife, a former Porn PR rep. I don't know much about PR in the Porn industry... It's obviously something that slithers around in the shadows beyond the view of mainstream media marketing. Maybe we're not hanging in the right slimy places... The irony... porn's primary market reach is via the internet... yet Van Halen has nothing remarkable going on the net.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Take into consideration... Ed's primary source of "people who guide him in matters of PR" is his wife, a former Porn PR rep. I don't know much about PR in the Porn industry... It's obviously something that slithers around in the shadows beyond the view of mainstream media marketing. Maybe we're not hanging in the right slimy places... The irony... porn's primary market reach is via the internet... yet Van Halen has nothing remarkable going on the net.
    That notion is quite astute. Consider the fact that the dithering idiot actually came up with two non-shirted, sweaty, howling messes for one of the dullest porn flicks in recorded memory, and history starts to fall into place like a set of tabletop stacked dominos.

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    Dave needs to start making his presence known outside of being on stage. This recent silence is completely odd. Does he have a freaking ban from talking from the Van Halens. What the hell does he do all day to remain sane or is he totally loony now because Ed has a gag order on him. I can see Dave at this moment doing one of a hundred videos talking, talking to himself and answering questions of himself because he cannot be quiet, and is storing them away like Prince. For better or worse, the guy cannot stop moving, talking or thinking and yet he is in a band dedicated to silence and zero fan outreach... Dave is the biggest oxymoron in the music industry (other than Kanye West being called a genius) because he is in a band whose character is press shy lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    That notion is quite astute. Consider the fact that the dithering idiot actually came up with two non-shirted, sweaty, howling messes for one of the dullest porn flicks in recorded memory, and history starts to fall into place like a set of tabletop stacked dominos.
    I had thought possibly Edward, Al and Dave would have a fairly good grasp on band promotion given they've had 35+ years of doing it... But clearly they learned nothing from their past experience.

    They are like a pack of prize winning, veteran show dogs... After all these years you'd think they'd know what to do. But let them off the leash and they just run around wildly, sniffin butts, barking, snapping at each other and crapping in any corner they choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    They are like a pack of prize winning, veteran show dogs... After all these years you'd think they'd know what to do. But let them off the leash and they just run around wildly, sniffin butts, barking, snapping at each other and crapping in any corner they choose.
    Ladies and gentlemen.... I give you the Roth Army!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VetteLS5 View Post
    Ladies and gentlemen.... I give you the Roth Army!
    Imagine yourself as the poor UPS driver arriving at Howdy Doofy Mountain waiting for Edwad to sign the electronic signature thing while listening to him say "Hey, it's what I use!" while delivering a case of tube socks.

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    Well Happy Fourth of July guys... I give you a guy off cue, timing off, not hitting high notes and forgetting lyrics and laughing his way through a song who is not named David lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXAqkXpoyUs

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Imagine yourself as the poor UPS driver arriving at Howdy Doofy Mountain waiting for Edwad to sign the electronic signature thing while listening to him say "Hey, it's what I use!" while delivering a case of tube socks.

    Things could be worse, ya know....


    'Now playing' VAN HALEN - UP FOR BREAKFAST 'on' APS Radio— APS Radio (@APSRadio) July 4, 2015
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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Things could be worse, ya know....


    'Now playing' VAN HALEN - UP FOR BREAKFAST 'on' APS Radio— APS Radio (@APSRadio) July 4, 2015
    OK, here is a challenge...it takes about seven solid swings of a hammer focused directly at my forehead to provide relief from this noise. Any takers out there that can make it in a lesser amount of swipes?

    If ya want, we can lay some money on the table...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    OK, here is a challenge...it takes about seven solid swings of a hammer focused directly at my forehead to provide relief from this noise. Any takers out there that can make it in a lesser amount of swipes?

    If ya want, we can lay some money on the table...
    That is one of the worst vocal performances and lyrics of any song to date, regardless of the band... but what is interesting is that Ed probably got a wake up call on it too because he tried to get it right on the VH III song "Fire in the Hole" which uses the same composition, DAMN IT LET DAVE HAVE A GO AT THAT RIFF BABY

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