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10,000 will be here by the end of the year and another 15,000 by the end of February. Very few are government sponsored. They are sponsored by family members that are already here, private sponsors (one couple cancelled their wedding reception and are using the money to sponsor a family instead), and a few are government sponsored...meaning they get a $10,000 LOAN which they have to start paying back 3 months after arrival, and they also have to pay back their transportation costs.
We are bringing the most vulnerable...women, children, families and members of the LGBT community.
This is Canada, WARF...we're not afraid of the bogeyman...
You wanna talk managaing a story for ratings? Did you hear about Hannity reading the Pew Poll that clearly indicates the majority of the muslim world can't fucking stand ISIS - backwards, to intentionally (as there's been no retraction) imply the opposite?
Yep, reversed the "unfavorable" and "favorable" stats - which could be chalked up to color-blindness - HAD THERE BEEN A RETRACTION. There's been none. That's the actual graphic they used too, clearly says "overwhemingly negative" - but ask yourself, how much do you trust the reading comprehension of the average FAUX viewer? Of course, worthless bigots watching FAUX news will eat that misread shit up, and will never bother to fact-check it...because it's what they WANT to hear. Got into it with a friend's friend on FB who posted in response to a post of mine "All muslims are terrorists!" M'kay, then my friends of over ten years are just REALLY lazy ones, then... idiot. I TRIED to calmly explain to her that Daesh/ISIS has killed tens of thousands of people for being the wrong kind of muslim according to them, that they despise "grey areas" where everyday muslims FIT IN - and want to destroy them. Their goal is for any muslim that doesn't agree with them to be SO marginalized by the rest of the world that they have NO CHOICE but to turn to them, and every bigot chest thumping 'MERICA fuck-the-refugees/ anti-muslim post HELPS THEM. So, to reiterate - if you're posting bigoted, xenophobic anti-islam shit you're the opposite of patriotic, you're in fact HELPING THE ENEMY.
"I'll wear that like a badge of honor" the bitch replies. Honored - to be HELPING ISIS. Riiiiiight. OH, and the (now former) friend who's page she posted that on? Didn't call on her for that, capped on ME for calling her a "xenophobic twunt". Cuz, y'know... "name-calling", so much higher on the priority list than hate speech. Oh and made a Carson-esque "refugees = animals" reference. Then they mention said biznatch - is a FACEBOOK ADMIN. So I immediately inquire "How the fuck do you not know that could be reported as hate speech, then?" As it happens, the dude's logo was coincidentally in the profile pic of most of my social media pages, so I quickly 'shopped it out, replaced it on all my pages, told him as someone who's OK with hate speech he'd never get free advertising from me again; not accidentally in a pic in a Duncan blog, nor even to my measley 1600 Twitter followers. Because fuck bigots. Suddenly, thread deleted.
I mean, just as an example (not a brag!!) ChuckD retweeted me to half a million people the other day - you think I'm leaving some anti-islamic bigot's logo on my shit? Not happening.
But it's amazing as an atheist to watch how comfortable so-called christians are with renouncing 1.7 billion people for basically liking Strawberry Kool-Aid instead of Grape or some shit. And, because Jesus - they're totally OK with going full Nazi on another religious group. False certitude at its finest. And they're completely oblivious to HOW hateful they are, they (wrongly) feel justified in it, which makes them JUST as mental as any jihadist. It's insane.
Similarly regarding the conservative fact-free bubble - I had a friend who just retired from the USAF bitching the other day about "Obama fucked us pulling us out of Iraq" - you mean, the withdrawal timetable BUSH negotiated that had he broken would have created an international incident - that cons ALSO would have bitched about? Seriously? How does someone that was IN the service not bother to understand the directives they operate under, and who's making what decision?!? Mind-boggling stupidity.
Angel (11-26-2015)
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Jhale...I'm starting to like you again, lmao. I had people block me for calling them xenophobic. Said I was being verbally abusive. Stupidity is right...
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Why is it bigotry to mistrust a group of people whose members jump at every opportunity to claim responsibility of henious acts committed against innocent civililians? Wasn't the "mastermind" of the attacks in Paris a Muslim? Don't some Muslims chant death to Israel, death to the U S on a regular basis? I'm sure the majority of the refugees coming from Syria are just what they claim to be but no one can guarantee some of them are not Muslim extremists who just haven't been identified as such yet. I'm not opposed to letting some of them come here but they should be kept somewhere someone can keep an eye on them until they have been positively identified to be who and what they say they are.
Fickle women ;-)
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Donnie we can protect everyone here! We're the only members of this ARMY with guns. Lol
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Or the only two stupid enough to admit it.
You're worried about Obama taking your guns, why not just give him the combo to your safe, too?
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Canadian freedom of speech is vastly different than US dog. Hate speech is a crime. I call a spade a spade, not a fucking shovel. And again, you read words that aren't there. I said people, I didn't say idiots...
And yes, stupidity is the correct word. If you say "I am afraid these newcomers are going to steal our jobs then blowup our homes and change all our laws", you are the very definition of a xenophobe.
Wow flamethrowers and xenophobes its like fucking aliens now
Like I sad. Who appointed you judge and jury of who or who isn't a bigot? I do believe a xenophobe is a type of bigot. I didn't say they were gonna steal our jobs (I accused wetbacks of that though), blow up our homes or change our laws. I haven't accused the refugees themselves of anything. I'd just like to make sure all of them are refugees before I let them walk around freely among us. I'm entitled to my own opinion whether you like it or not. Judge that.
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Angel (11-27-2015)
You answered your own question by claiming it's the ENTIRE GROUP, and not distiguishing muslims from jihadists. To conflate the two is ignorant bigotry. To fear 1.7 billion people for the actions of 30,000 assholes - is xenophobia. You're soaking in it. You and anyone else posting shit like that.
So then - by your same logic all christians should have been judged by and monitored in the US for at minimum over a decade already because of Tim McVeigh, or the dude that murdered Dr. Tiller after being incited by fellow christian Bill O'Reilly, or at LEAST more recently for Dylan Roof - all nutbag christians who jumped at the opportunity to commit a heinous act (including merely inciting violence)... Don't "some christians" blow up abortion clinics, or recently have tried to use their state office to persecute others & violate people's civil rights? Are Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz NOT Dominonist fucktards bent on installing a christian theocracy/American Taliban if elected? Seriously, how are you gonna argue that's any different, because Jesus? No.
Angel (11-27-2015)
Angel (11-27-2015)
And the bigoted stupidity of Jeb & Ted Cruz to suggest that we should only let "christian" refugees in... first of all, fuck you. Second of all, what jihadist smart enough to get through the 18 to 24 month screening process pretending to be a refugee isn't ALSO smart enought to pretend to be a christian...! Duh! The stupid, it burns.
But don't remind them they're idiots.
Angel (11-27-2015)
Reread the fucking post and show me where I accused "the entire group" of anything.
"Why is it bigotry to mistrust a group of people whose members jump at every opportunity to claim responsibility of henious acts committed against innocent civililians? Wasn't the "mastermind" of the attacks in Paris a Muslim? Don't some Muslims chant death to Israel, death to the U S on a regular basis? I'm sure the majority of the refugees coming from Syria are just what they claim to be but no one can guarantee some of them are not Muslim extremists who just haven't been identified as such yet. I'm not opposed to letting some of them come here but they should be kept somewhere someone can keep an eye on them until they have been positively identified to be who and what they say they are."
Last edited by cadaverdog; 11-26-2015 at 06:48 PM.
Not trying to start an argument, stating a fact. Re-read your own post. Where did you make any distinction? You didn't. And since when has any group of incoming refugees been monitored (over and above the standard again 18-24 month vetting period) because of their religion?
Here's a bigger question - why the fuck would a jihadist BOTHER posing as a refugee and suffer through being a "sleeper" for 18 to 24 month before they ever were cleared, THEN have to continue the sleeper act for months more while trying to get organized to act - when they could far more easily fake a work or student visa and waltz right in? As far as theories go, it's a pretty weak one. But FAUXbots eat it up w/o question. If fact are offended when the stupidity of it is pointed out, as we see here.
No one thinks security should be relaxed - that's a given. But given that, it's nearly impossible to argue that anyone fearing accepting an influx or majority women, children and the eldery isn't - a bigot, and/or a bed-wetting pussy... just sayin'.
"Why is it bigotry to mistrust a group of people whose members jump at every opportunity to claim responsibility of henious acts committed against innocent civililians?
Do some Muslims do this? Fuck yes they do. It says members It doesn't say all or some but you choose to interpret it as all. Why? Because it fits your agenda better.
Not trying to start an argument, stating a fact. (your words)
"No one thinks security should be relaxed - that's a given. But given that, it's nearly impossible to argue that anyone fearing accepting an influx or majority women, children and the eldery isn't - a bigot, and/or a bed-wetting pussy... just sayin'."
Not trying to start an argument, stating a fact. (my words)
You're a lying sack of shit.
No, you just have shitty debate skills and get butthurt easily. You just confirmed again -you made no distinction.
Look, it's really simple: your post's phraseology "A group of people whose members" thrown out in a cavalier manner w/o said distinction/clarification of "some" or "certain" - implies all. Whether you meant to or not, it's what you did. See how that works?
Clarity is important, especially when you're discussing xenophobia.
Angel (11-27-2015)
This is an enemy that often hides in plain sight. The simplicity of their plans, and the fact they are not afraid to die makes this the biggest challenge this country has ever faced. This is only gonna get worse....
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cadaverdog (11-27-2015)
cadaverdog (11-27-2015)
The only thing that could happen that could turn me into a terrorist would be someone killing my kids.
Bombing kills a lot of kids whether it's some cunt in a suicide vest in a public place or a drone firing missiles at a wedding.
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