David Robert Jones 1947-2016

[Kristy]

Really?

[vandeleur]

Wish I had bought mine in the bargain bin , all I ever see is Adam Sadler movies in there

[Kristy]

Bono went on to say "In those times when I think I can't suck any more cock or make a shittier U2 record than the one before I just play Tin Machine. I find them to be inspirational."

[vandeleur]

Terry's post reminds me of a trend on Twitter I noticed the last couple of days , it's not a shot at terry who is a cool dude more a comment on fuck knows what.

So all these people on Twitter are on there expressing their grief genuine or not for someone they don't know but clearly have some connection to.So these people are expressing their opinions/ feelings which is what I guess social media is for but there seems to be a group of people this is pissing off.
These people are on haranguing people for their comments.
These "sympathy deniers" are fucking mental , how do they know how something effects someone else , how dare they shove there opinions on what someone should feel.
They are as messed up as they people they want to call out , and probably getting more upset than them.

Any way it's social media , if you wanna post pics of your breakfast on Facebook , cool.
If you wanna post cat pics on twitter cool.
If you wanna come on the army and disagree with Kristy expect to be called a nazi

[Kristy]

Only slave FORD is a Nazi.

[vandeleur]

Only salve FORD is a Nazi.

Slave hun, still time to change it and we can keep this between us

[vandeleur]

quick

[DLR Bridge]

I probably thoroughly enjoyed no more than 55 to 60% of the music he made (including 3 or 4 songs on the first Tin Machine CD) but I 100% applaud his talents and his constant experimentation. Sure, there was a greater element of surprise in his earlier years than later, but that's to be expected. I wish him peace, wherever he is.

[Terry]

Terry's post reminds me of a trend on Twitter I noticed the last couple of days , it's not a shot at terry who is a cool dude more a comment on fuck knows what.

So all these people on Twitter are on there expressing their grief genuine or not for someone they don't know but clearly have some connection to.So these people are expressing their opinions/ feelings which is what I guess social media is for but there seems to be a group of people this is pissing off.
These people are on haranguing people for their comments.
These "sympathy deniers" are fucking mental , how do they know how something effects someone else , how dare they shove there opinions on what someone should feel.
They are as messed up as they people they want to call out , and probably getting more upset than them.

Any way it's social media , if you wanna post pics of your breakfast on Facebook , cool.
If you wanna post cat pics on twitter cool.
If you wanna come on the army and disagree with Kristy expect to be called a nazi

Doubtless there are people who feel a genuine sadness that Bowie passed away. I mean, clearly you'd have to be mildly antisocial (to say the least) to be happy that Bowie is gone.

Not having known Bowie myself, the news of his passing didn't particularly upset me anymore than anyone else who died that I didn't know: famous or not, everybody dies eventually. Sooner or later, life will kill you.

And I do respect the feelings of those who felt a strong connection with Bowie's music (and therefore some kind of a connection with Bowie).

I wouldn't even consider going on Twitter or Facebook and calling bullshit on individual tweets re: the credibility of individual condolences for Bowie.

It just struck me as odd that the massive outpouring of "I've always loved David Bowie" in terms of the sheer numbers of such sentiments was completely disproportionate to the amount of records his post-Let's Dance releases have sold.

Maybe I'm just being a cynical cunt about it. OR maybe when countless people say "I've always loved David Bowie" that translates into "I loved him up until 1983, but after that I didn't love him enough to buy one of his newer releases, yet I loved him enough to wait until after he was dead to tweet how much I loved him."

OR maybe I'll just STFU about it.

[Seshmeister]

I get your point but say Dave Lee Roth died tomorrow you have said here recently you haven't enjoyed much of his recent work either?

There is a bigger outpouring on my social media about Bowie than there was about Lemmy I think because a lot of people especially of a certain age who saw themselves as outsiders when they were young really loved Bowie as a role model be it because they were goth/glam/arty/just fucking a bit out there. I probably know a disproportionate amount of people like that though... It was clearly not all about the music there was much more to it than that. I'm sure few of these people listened to his later stuff in recent times but I think him dying rekindled a lot of old memories in Generation X in particular.

As it happens there was a lot of Bowie being played in my house(not by me) during December but yeah it was mainly older stuff.

I think what I'm trying to say very ineloquently is that Bowie was culturally much more than just a singer who had some hits in the 1970s.

Sure there will be plenty of bandwagon jumpers but there always are.

[vandeleur]

I loved all his stuff even the older stuff I had never heard
I gotta say I was dragged to the glass spider tour where the highlight was him saying hello newcastle in sunderland ...... its like saying forgetaboutit. But the gig was so out there , I was a little kiddy punk and there was just ridiculous stuff going on.

[vandeleur]

And top tip for riff theft , Mick Ronson knew a toon.

[WARF]

Before it was cool to use the "racist" card as it is now in 2016.

Bowie was right on the money back in 83!

Bowie's final line is PRICELESS!!!

[Kristy]

There is a bigger outpouring on my social media about Bowie than there was about Lemmy I think because a lot of people especially of a certain age who saw themselves as outsiders when they were young really loved Bowie as a role model be it because they were goth/glam/arty/just fucking a bit out there.

Right here ladies and gentleman slave Sesh demonstrates his true colors of ignorance. Lemmy was a dunk, a womanizer, a social cancer and a all-around fuck up. Say what you want about Bowie but at least he gave a shit about the world he lived in. "Arty/farty/glam-what-the-fuck-ever has nothing to do with it.

[Seshmeister]

I worry about your reading comprehension skills...

[WARF]

David Bowie to me was an "artist" more than a musician.
Blackstar is brilliant because he used his own death as a work of art.
Pure Genius.

[Angel]

David Bowie to me was an "artist" more than a musician.
Blackstar is brilliant because he used his own death as a work of art.
Pure Genius.

Blackstar is amazing. The video encompasses art as a whole. I agree...pure genius.

[DLR Bridge]

I saw that clip with Mark Goodman the other day. I think Bowie was putting MG in his place with his gaze, alone.

[Kristy]

I worry about your reading comprehension skills...

Hey, I'm stoned half the time I post. What's your excuse?

[vandeleur]

Hey, I'm stoned half the time I post. What's your excuse?

He's pished same as everyone else

[Kristy]

Before it was cool to use the "racist" card as it is now in 2016.

Wow. Back in the day when they're were actually "rock journalist" who weren't afraid to stand up artist.



What.Duh.Fuck...?

[Green Manalishi]

Before it was cool to use the "racist" card as it is now in 2016.

Bowie was right on the money back in 83!

Bowie's final line is PRICELESS!!!

Yep ! Gee , thanx Dave . You know we just can't get enough Yo!MTV Raps !

[Seshmeister]

Wow. Back in the day when they're were actually "rock journalist" who weren't afraid to stand up artist.

What.Duh.Fuck...?

Duran Duran Verse + Boyband Chorus = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Terry]

I get your point but say Dave Lee Roth died tomorrow you have said here recently you haven't enjoyed much of his recent work either?

There is a bigger outpouring on my social media about Bowie than there was about Lemmy I think because a lot of people especially of a certain age who saw themselves as outsiders when they were young really loved Bowie as a role model be it because they were goth/glam/arty/just fucking a bit out there. I probably know a disproportionate amount of people like that though... It was clearly not all about the music there was much more to it than that. I'm sure few of these people listened to his later stuff in recent times but I think him dying rekindled a lot of old memories in Generation X in particular.

As it happens there was a lot of Bowie being played in my house(not by me) during December but yeah it was mainly older stuff.

I think what I'm trying to say very ineloquently is that Bowie was culturally much more than just a singer who had some hits in the 1970s.

Sure there will be plenty of bandwagon jumpers but there always are.

I suppose it's just a matter of getting older myself, and with that gradually comes a changing perspective on rock stars I used to idolize way back when as opposed to how I feel about them today. Far as not enjoying Roth's recent stuff, that most definitely refers to his live performances vocally from 2012 up through today. He's been doddering about onstage for the past few years, more and more so each year, and he doesn't have the goods to get me to pay to see him perform anymore. Frankly, should he pass away tomorrow, it won't be something that elicits massive amounts of emotion from me. A lot of the rock icons I've appreciated for 30 to 40 years are going to start dropping off left and right, just as a function of aging and dying. Roth was one of the greatest rock front men regardless of where he's at today performance-wise. Hope he lives until a ripe old age, much the same as I would wish that for anybody, famous or not.

Yeah, the basic thrust of my initial comments was a caustic attitude toward bandwagon jumpers. It definitely wasn't anti-Bowie.

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

Not sure who those dickheads are ripping off a melody from the mighty Duran, and not sure why Von has to urinate on the graves of John L. and David B. and Franky Hollywood and Men's Hatwear and the transcendent Devo, et al, but Michael Jagger was clearly the gayer of the two in the video, though perhaps on par with William Squire's ill-fated Rock Me Tonite video (if I recall), and thus it cannot be denied that David Bowie was a creative genius. China Girl, Lets Dance, and Modern Love were the thinking man's response to Jump, Panama, and Hot For The Teacher... show some respect, Von, and put on your red shoes and dance the blues (uncanny DLR-esque lyricism on display, indeed)...

It's good to see the old crew still fighting the good fight! Props to Sesh for staying marginally sober, Von for not being marginally couth nor tactful, as well as FORD, WARF, vandelay, and no doubt Kristy for keeping everyone in line, and various and sundry others who have found it in themselves to offer up their condolences for a man, a myth, a legend, who will be truly missed, though truth be told I thought he shoved off a few years prior...

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[WARF]

Conmee,

I see you're living in multiple locations.

Are you escorting to supplement your coke habits?

That is all...

[SunisinuS]

Bye David:

[WARF]

I wish everyone celebrate Bowie's death a little bit longer. I'm sick of reading about how Alan Rickman was the greatest actor of all time.

Alan Rickman didn't do anything I liked besides smack the concrete from falling off the Nakatomi Building....

And a few faggy scenes with Kevin Costner in Robin Hood: Prince of Faggots....

[Satan]

[Satan]

[DONNIEP]

So Bowie made fun of himself with this video. Lots of references to his persona, so far as the media was concerned, in this video. Great video and a great song:

[DavidLeeNatra]

I wish everyone celebrate Bowie's death a little bit longer. I'm sick of reading about how Alan Rickman was the greatest actor of all time.

Alan Rickman didn't do anything I liked besides smack the concrete from falling off the Nakatomi Building....

And a few faggy scenes with Kevin Costner in Robin Hood: Prince of Faggots....

Yeah...let's celebrate that he is finally dead...

Von?

[clarathecarrot]

This is what music is all about not that anyone asked me but however as I am intuitive and empathetic of the needs of the distant creations we all call our friends here how'it go.......

I found these,... on the youtube and it sais volumes about the world wide interest Bowies music . short sweet and as it should be.

[Nickdfresh]

I'm all for freedom of speech on message boards and such but I think it shows a real lack of class to berate someone in a memorial thread. RIP David Jones.

It's just her/its contrarian, hipster douchebag troll schtick. And yes, it's getting old...

[Nickdfresh]

Can't believe no one posted this yet:

[SunisinuS]

One More:

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Written by Serge Gainsbourg, sung by Isabelle Adjani (1983) :

[Seshmeister]

http://www.knowable.com/a/david-bowi...2cad59711ff0b1

David Bowie's Son Shared This Letter From Doctor About Father's Passing. Wow.

Sara Peters

The world mourned the loss of David Bowie on January 10 - a legendary singer, songwriter, producer, actor, multi-instrumentalist, painter, record producer, and overall human being.

Duncan Jones, Bowie's son, shared a tribute to his father, penned by the palliative care doctor that they came to know throughout Bowie's 18-month cancer illness.

Find the letter below.

Dear David,

Oh no, don’t say it’s true – whilst realization of your death was sinking in during those grey, cold January days of 2016, many of us went on with our day jobs. At the beginning of that week I had a discussion with a hospital patient, facing the end of her life. We discussed your death and your music, and it got us talking about numerous weighty subjects, that are not always straightforward to discuss with someone facing their own demise. In fact, your story became a way for us to communicate very openly about death, something many doctors and nurses struggle to introduce as a topic of conversation. But before I delve further into the aforementioned exchange, I’d like to get a few other things off my chest, and I hope you don’t find them a saddening bore.

Thank you for the Eighties when your ChangesOneBowie album provided us with hours of joyful listening, in particular on a trip from Darmstadt to Cologne and back. My friends and I will probably always associate Diamond Dogs, Rebel Rebel, China Girl and Golden Years with that particular time in our lives. Needless to say, we had a great time in Köln.

Thank you for Berlin, especially early on, when your songs provided some of the musical backdrop to what was happening in East and West Germany. I still have ‘Helden’ on vinyl and played it again when I heard you had died (you’ll be pleased to hear that Helden will also feature in our next Analogue Music Club in the Pilot pub in Penarth later this month). Some may associate David Hasselhoff with the fall of the wall and reunification; but many Germans probably wish that time had taken a cigarette and put it in Mr Hasselhoff’s mouth around that time, rather than hear “I’ve been looking for freedom” endlessly on the radio. For me that time in our history is sound tracked by ‘Heroes’.

Thanks also on behalf of my friend Ifan, who went to one of your gigs in Cardiff. His sister Haf was on the doors that night and I heard a rumour that Ifan managed to sneak in for free (he says sorry!). You gave him and his mate a wave from the stage which will remain in his memory forever.

Thank you for Lazarus and Blackstar. I am a palliative care doctor, and what you have done in the time surrounding your death has had a profound effect on me and many people I work with. Your album is strewn with references, hints and allusions. As always, you don’t make interpretation all that easy, but perhaps that isn’t the point. I have often heard how meticulous you were in your life. For me, the fact that your gentle death at home coincided so closely with the release of your album, with its good-bye message, in my mind is unlikely to be coincidence. All of this was carefully planned, to become a work of death art. The video of Lazarus is very deep and many of the scenes will mean different things to us all; for me it is about dealing with the past when you are faced with inevitable death.

Your death at home. Many people I talk to as part of my job think that death predominantly happens in hospitals, in very clinical settings, but I presume you chose home and planned this in some detail. This is one of our aims in palliative care, and your ability to achieve this may mean that others will see it as an option they would like fulfilled. The photos that emerged of you some days after your death, were said to be from the last weeks of your life. I do not know whether this is correct, but I am certain that many of us would like to carry off a sharp suit in the same way that you did in those photos. You looked great, as always, and it seemed in direct defiance of all the scary monsters that the last weeks of life can be associated with.

For your symptom control needs, you will presumably have had palliative care professionals advise on pain, nausea, vomiting, breathlessness, and I can imagine they did this well. I envisage that they also discussed any emotional anguish you may have had.

For your advance care planning (i.e. planning heath and care decisions prior to things getting worse and before becoming unable to express them), I am certain you will have had a lot of ideas, expectations, prior decisions and stipulations. These may have been set out clearly in writing, near your bed at home, so that everyone who met you was clear on what you wanted, regardless of your ability to communicate. It is an area not just palliative care professionals, but in fact all healthcare workers want to provide and improve, so that it is less likely that any sudden health incidents will automatically result in a blue-light ambulance emergency room admission. Especially when people become unable to speak for themselves.

And I doubt that anyone will have given you Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation (CPR) in the last hours/days of your life, or even considered it. Regrettably, some patients who have not actively opted out of this treatment still receive it, by default. It involves physical, sometimes bone-breaking chest compressions, electric shocks, injections and insertion of airways and is only successful in 1-2% of patients whose cancer has spread to other organs in their body. It is very likely that you asked your medical team to issue you with a Do Not Attempt Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation Order. I can only imagine what it must have been like to discuss this, but you were once again a hero, or a ‘Held’, even at this most challenging time of your life. And the professionals who saw you will have had good knowledge and skill in the provision of palliative and end-of-life care. Sadly, this essential part of training is not always available for junior healthcare professionals, including doctors and nurses, and is sometimes overlooked or under-prioritized by those who plan their education. I think if you were ever to return (as Lazarus did), you would be a firm advocate for good palliative care training being available everywhere.

So back to the conversation I had with the lady who had recently received the news that she had advanced cancer that had spread, and that she would probably not live much longer than a year or so. She talked about you and loved your music, but for some reason was not impressed by your Ziggy Stardust outfit (she was not sure whether you were a boy or a girl). She too, had memories of places and events for which you provided an idiosyncratic soundtrack. And then we talked about a good death, the dying moments and what these typically look like. And we talked about palliative care and how it can help. She told me about her mother’s and her father’s death, and that she wanted to be at home when things progressed, not in a hospital or emergency room, but that she’d happily transfer to the local hospice should her symptoms be too challenging to treat at home.

We both wondered who may have been around you when you took your last breath and whether anyone was holding your hand. I believe this was an aspect of the vision she had of her own dying moments that was of utmost importance to her, and you gave her a way of expressing this most personal longing to me, a relative stranger.

Thank you.


David, you will live on in our hearts.


David Bowie and Duncan Jones, shared by Duncan on Twitter.

[IceCreamBlondie]

I'm all for freedom of speech on message boards and such but I think it shows a real lack of class to berate someone in a memorial thread. RIP David Jones.

You tell 'em, C-Dog. !!!

[IceCreamBlondie]

I'm catching up with things here at the Army, so forgive me if this is late......

A few weeks later, I'm still so sad that David Bowie has passed away. I am a huge fan of Bowie (especially his classic 70s period); I played the hell out of his LPs growing up. To me, his Ziggy Stardust album is his masterpiece, especially the B side. Same goes for the song "Heroes" - eerily beautiful.

Bowie's influence is enormous, especially since he was one of the Godfathers of the modern day music video (making videos long before MTV was invented) and the 1980s British New Wave.

RIP David Bowie - my favorite Starman. He will never be forgotten.