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    This is the president you want? The one in the middle of the night trying to find a sex tape of a Venezuelan beauty queen from 20 years ago?
    While calling you stupid because you have paid tax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Trump's loser tax return bombshell:

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    Trump’s Tax Records

    The New York Times obtained records from 1995 showing that Donald J. Trump declared a $916 million loss. The figure is so substantial that it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying federal income tax for 18 years. By AINARA TIEFENTHÄLER and GABRIEL DANCE on Publish Date October 1, 2016. Photo by Kathy Willens/Associated Press. Watch in Times Video »

    Donald J. Trump declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years, records obtained by The New York Times show.

    The 1995 tax records, never before disclosed, reveal the extraordinary tax benefits that Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, derive.


    Tax experts hired by The Times to analyze Mr. Trump’s 1995 records said that tax rules especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period.

    How Long Do Capital Gains and Losses Carry Forward?
    This key fact is important for taxes.

    A capital gain occurs when an asset such as a stock or bond increases in value, making it worth more than what the holder initially paid for it. Similarly, a capital loss occurs when an asset decreases in value, making it worth less than its original purchase price.

    Capital gains and losses are reported to the IRS on income taxes. However, the IRS does not require filers to report gains or losses until the assets in question are actually sold off. Once an asset is sold at either a profit or a loss, it's considered a realized gain or loss and must be reported accordingly.

    Short-term capital gains versus long-term capital gains
    Capital gains are categorized as either long-term or short-term. If an asset is held for more than one year and then sold for a higher price than the original purchase, it's considered a long-term capital gain. An asset held for less than a year and sold at a profit is considered a short-term capital gain.

    Each type of capital gain comes with its own tax implications. Short-term capital gains are taxed as ordinary income, whereas long-term capital gains taxes are typically capped at 15% for most taxpayers, which is generally lower than the rate applied to ordinary income. Furthermore, low-income individuals may not be subject to long-term capital gains taxes at all. The long-term versus short-term distinction applies to capital losses as well, but from a tax perspective, there's really no difference in treatment.

    Carrying gains and losses forward
    If capital losses exceed capital gains, the filer is entitled to claim a deduction against the loss in the amount of $3,000 or the total net loss, whichever is less. When a net capital loss exceeds the $3,000 limit, it can be carried forward to future years.

    In the following year, the loss carried forward would first be used to offset potential capital gains. If capital losses still exceed capital gains, the filer can claim up to $3,000 as a loss and continue doing so year over year until the net loss amount is reduced to zero.

    Capital gains, however, cannot be carried forward. Once an asset is sold for more than its original purchase price and a gain is realized, the gain must be declared in full on that year's taxes. For this reason, those looking to sell off assets should do so strategically to minimize any potential tax burden that might ensue.

    Obviously you can't write off 919 million dollars in capital gains losses in 19 years at 3 grand a year max. I'll have to look into it a little farther to find out how much you have to make a year to write off more than 3 grand a year in capital gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is the president you want? The one in the middle of the night trying to find a sex tape of a Venezuelan beauty queen from 20 years ago?
    While calling you stupid because you have paid tax?
    I couldn't care less about the first part but Trump blurting out "It's because I'm smart" when Hillary mentioned he hadn't paid taxes in 20+years chapped my hide a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Last I heard they were getting rid of the nude pictorials and marketing as a rich man's magazine.
    It's already happened. My friend has given me the new non-nude issues but I haven't had time to look at them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Looking back, I think I subscribed to Playboy because it seemed like the cool thing to do. Chicks seemed to think it was kinda cool too, of course this was before you could watch porn on your phone so most chicks had limited contact with that kinda stuff. I wonder if Playboy is still considered cool these days.
    I got a subscription for my 17th birthday. Kept renewing until 1999 or 2000, can't remember.

    I'd catch my ex leafing through them and at one point she had tried to get in the magazine. I think it was before they started the Playmate search trips. They sent her a letter detailing what they wanted, pics and a bio.

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    Hillary Clinton muses over Bernie Sanders' supporters in leaked audio recording

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    Hillary Clinton was apparently looking for ways to appeal to supporters of Bernie Sanders during a contentious Democratic primary campaign, according to leaked audio revealed this week.

    A report from Politico on Friday noted that the recording, taken from a private fundraiser held in February, showed Clinton laying out her assessment of Sanders voters.

    In the throes of the Democratic primary campaign, citizens rooting for Sanders saw the Vermont senator as the arbiter of a political revolution. Clinton described some of them as "children of the Great Recession" who are frustrated by a sluggish economy.

    "They are living in their parents' basement," Clinton said. "They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future."

    Sander's response:
    Sanders Says Clinton Comments in Leaked Audio 'Absolutely Correct'

    ABC News October 2, 2016
    Bernie Sanders told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that Hillary Clinton was “absolutely correct” when she said many of his supporters were living in their parents’ basements and struggling to find jobs. “During the campaign we had our differences, but what she was saying there was absolutely correct,” Sanders said during an interview Sunday morning in response to the newly leaked audio of Clinton talking about Sanders’ supporters during a private fundraiser in February. “You have millions of young people, many of whom took out loans in order to go to college, hoping to go out and get decent-paying jobs and they are unable to do that,” said Sanders, who endorsed Clinton two months ago. Clinton’s remarks came during a fundraiser at the home of former U.S. Ambassador Beatrice Welters, and the audio was first released by the conservative publication The Washington Free Beacon on Friday night.

    I can't help but laugh at the irony of the "living in their parents basements" line. I wasn't aware Kristy had gone to work for Hillary.

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    So Trump loves to suck dick. So what?

    I see slave FORD is still acting like a pussy.


    Nothing ever changes around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    So Trump loves to suck dick. So what?

    I see slave FORD is still acting like a pussy.


    Nothing ever changes around here.
    Welcome back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    I couldn't care less about the first part but Trump blurting out "It's because I'm smart" when Hillary mentioned he hadn't paid taxes in 20+years chapped my hide a little.
    That attitude really pissed me off too, and I can't believe people are so willing to overlook this issue.

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    Kinda difficult to talk the talk on people wrongly claiming welfare if you dodge paying your taxes..... Amongst other things.
    fuck your fucking framing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    That attitude really pissed me off too, and I can't believe people are so willing to overlook this issue.
    Funny thing is it appears the reason he hasn't paid income tax in 20 years is he lost 916 million in 96 and has been writing part of that loss off over the last 20. That's 48 mill a year in write offs. The regular tax payer can only write off 3 grand a year in capital losses. Trump must hire the best tax guy that ever lived.

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    They are all at it , every pop star, sports man , celebrity or politician.
    Soon as you get talking about tax you realise they are totally playing the system , actually that doesn't cover it. They are totally taking the piss out of people who work hard and pay their fair share.

    Sorry to sound like a "liberal" but when you say tax evasion it doesn't sound bad but in reality not paying for police, fire services , hospitals , community infrastructure and your armed forces makes it become more real.

    Next time some cunt of a pop star does a concert for the troops ask him not to bother just contribute to pay for them.


    Grumble grumble .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    So Trump loves to suck dick. So what?

    I see slave FORD is still acting like a pussy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    They are all at it , every pop star, sports man , celebrity or politician.
    Soon as you get talking about tax you realise they are totally playing the system , actually that doesn't cover it. They are totally taking the piss out of people who work hard and pay their fair share.

    Sorry to sound like a "liberal" but when you say tax evasion it doesn't sound bad but in reality not paying for police, fire services , hospitals , community infrastructure and your armed forces makes it become more real.

    Next time some cunt of a pop star does a concert for the troops ask him not to bother just contribute to pay for them.


    Grumble grumble .
    Yeah, supposedly Hill Dawg has done the same thing at least once. It's one of those things where it's not illegal and it is how the tax code is set up so... I guess the only thing I can compare it to is my mortgage interest deduction. I don't have to claim it but it's part of the tax code and it does reduce my taxable income so hell yeah I'm gonna take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    They are all at it , every pop star, sports man , celebrity or politician.
    The rest of them aren't running for president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    The rest of them aren't running for president.
    Kanye says he's going to. And I cannot freaking wait for that train wreck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Yeah, supposedly Hill Dawg has done the same thing at least once. It's one of those things where it's not illegal and it is how the tax code is set up so... I guess the only thing I can compare it to is my mortgage interest deduction. I don't have to claim it but it's part of the tax code and it does reduce my taxable income so hell yeah I'm gonna take it.
    Everyone tries to pay less but to pay nothing at all when you are that rich for all those years?

    Another thing to consider is why won't he release his tax returns? It can only be that would make him look worse otherwise he would.

    For it to make him look worse just think how bad it must be?

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    The story of two little sad cunts:

    1. This cunt-


    Ass Nazi dayglo radiation buttfucker whose "Trump Foundation" was never registered with the state of New York. Yet this bag of compacted fecal mush got away with no certification required under state law before a charity can solicit donations from any idiot that desperate to give to him. Somehow, this alleged "Foundation" of sycophant fags raised more than the $25,000 threshold for seeking certification in each of the last 10 years. How in the fuck does that happen eh, Slushy Seshy? Seems without certification Grumpy Trumpy avoided audit of all transactions. Then there was the Orwellian Newspeak with a god damn a cover story devoted to hard boiled egg ass-plugging of Trump being a stoogie of the Castro regime in Cuba. Fucking-A! Trump "explored" $68,000 in Cuba to rape the environment for potential hotel and casino dealings. Who in the fuck in Cuba has any money to gamble with? Anyhoo, this was back in 1998 when your Slushy Seshy (a.k.a. slave SESH) was first nursing his homoerotic fantasies about a washed-up David Lee Roth when such spending was illegal without approval by the US government! Oh, sit back and watch Slushy Seshy try form some sort of angry pseudo-left, pseudo-intellectual diatribe over that. Yeah, that article had no purpose - just like the election itself - which was of a right-wing, anti-Commie motherfucker character. Yeah, good luck in trying to circumvent Trump’s support among older Cuban-American voters in south Florida, a critical “battleground” state where polls (currently) show a tight sphincter race between Trump and Clinton.

    2. That Cunt -


    Fascist mother figure of the parade of prominent Rethuglicons with anti-Grumpy Trumpy hard ons. As far as I know, the last one to get his dick wet in the Hillary vagina cave is/was former Senator John Warner of Virginia. This dude was the former Secretary of the god damn U.S. Navy with close ties to the military-intelligence apparatus. And we all know Hillary loves war. Isn't that right, Libya? Oh right, most of you are dead. Then out of fucking nowhere came an pro-Clinton endorsement by George W. Bush and his father, George H. W. Bush??? That's creepy...and sexy. Then came a conference call by former commerce secretary Carlos Gutierrez with the big wig of the U.S. Air Force Mike Donley, former deputy Bush boot licker White House Chief of Staff Jim Cicconi, and a bunch of other Rethuglicon asshats Nazi fuckfaces. Yes, the uber-right-wing appeal of Clinton is sweeter than an Oxycontin addiction to the likes of billionaire Steve Case, former CEO of (failed) AOL Time Warner. Let's quote this motherfucker, shall we?: “I agree with Clinton on the need to control the deficit. Our best hope to remain the most innovative and entrepreneurial nation in the world.” So fucking funny.

    Not.

    I won't go into the whole Russian shit Clinton is trying to pull with the press because none of your cretins are worth the time to explain it to. What's great here is that the ruling class personification of wealth, privilege and the reactionary status quo pounding her snootch like a Walking Dead character is that she could actually lose the election to Trump.

    Oh and as for all your Californians and/or Texans who have recently moved to Colorado

    Go.The.Fuck.Back.Home.You.F A T.Ugly.Disgusting.Fucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    The rest of them aren't running for president.
    Oh, that's deep, poor Ohio child.

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    How's the Datsun and the Section 8 rental?

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    Well, as usual, fuck you all. I'm off to go hang around what's left of Sears and watch capitalism crumble before my eyes. Half of you losers have best killed yourselves by the time I get back.




    By the way, next week is Barnes & Noble.

    Can't fucking wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    That attitude really pissed me off too, and I can't believe people are so willing to overlook this issue.
    The fact that he hasn't paid personal Income tax in the last twenty years doesn't mesh well with his cut taxes for the rich and everyone will benefit bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Everyone tries to pay less but to pay nothing at all when you are that rich for all those years?

    Another thing to consider is why won't he release his tax returns? It can only be that would make him look worse otherwise he would.

    For it to make him look worse just think how bad it must be?
    The argument that he's not willing to release his tax returns because he's not as rich as he claims doesn't make sense to me. Personal income tax forms don't reveal someone's net worth. That would come from financial disclosure forms which he basically offered up before without any response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    The rest of them aren't running for president.
    Most of them couldn't do any worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Everyone tries to pay less but to pay nothing at all when you are that rich for all those years?

    Another thing to consider is why won't he release his tax returns? It can only be that would make him look worse otherwise he would.

    For it to make him look worse just think how bad it must be?
    I know, it sounds horrible, right? But let's say you became the Vodka King of Scotland and three years from now you take almost a billion dollar hit to your Vodka Empire. Now, your tax laws say you can basically write that off your tax liability for the next however many years. I doubt you're gonna turn that down. I wouldn't.

    Anyway, I'd vote for the town drunk who sleeps on the steps of the local Post Office before I'd vote for Hill Dawg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I know, it sounds horrible, right? But let's say you became the Vodka King of Scotland and three years from now you take almost a billion dollar hit to your Vodka Empire. Now, your tax laws say you can basically write that off your tax liability for the next however many years. I doubt you're gonna turn that down. I wouldn't.

    Anyway, I'd vote for the town drunk who sleeps on the steps of the local Post Office before I'd vote for Hill Dawg.
    Thanks bud but I ain't running , appreciate the support tho

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    The whole tax thing boils my spunk , we recently had a rash of celebrity cunts being caught with dubious tax arrangements .... Mainly comedians who like to draw attention to others lack of moral fortitude .... Ggrrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Thanks bud but I ain't running , appreciate the support tho
    Silly Vandy, farners can't be president. Now, some people will tell you that The Imama Ubama is a farner. That is not true. I know this because the BCE has been grooming him since before he was born. Legend has it that the BCE sent a plane to Kenya to pick up Ubama's mother three days before she gave birth, thereby ensuring Ubama would be born in Hawaii and thus eligible to take over America after W's second term. Hell, it's all right there in the Bible. Don't you read your scriptures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    The whole tax thing boils my spunk , we recently had a rash of celebrity cunts being caught with dubious tax arrangements .... Mainly comedians who like to draw attention to others lack of moral fortitude .... Ggrrrrr
    Well, dubious sounds like illegal to me. So it all comes down to what the tax code says about any given individual's tax liability. If I was getting my taxes done next year and the preparer said "If you deduct X due to Y reason then your tax liability for 2016 will be zero and it's completely legal" you can bet I ain't paying jack shit. Buhlieve me.

    The thing is, everybody says they want everybody to pay his or her fair share. Except on April 15th. Then everybody is trying to pay as little as legally possible and they all feel great about it.

    Let's pick a number, say 30,000 dollars. And let's say everybody here on this board has to pay a total of 30,000 dollars in federal income tax for 2016. Now, there's not one person here who would say "Yeah, I think I'll cut the check instead" if their tax advisor said you legally don't owe anything due to whatever reason. Nobody would. It kinda works like this: Nobody minds hearing that someone else is doing well. But nobody wants to hear that somebody else is doing better than they are.

    The question is should we do away with the capital gains loss reductions, not whether Trump or Hill Dawg should have taken advantage of the laws as written. And I don't know the answer. I'm just here for the free beer.

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    When you donzilla pay more tax than Donald "I've been very successful " trump it's a fucked up system.
    Just saying ,don't want to upset any none liberals

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Let's pick a number, say 30,000 dollars. And let's say everybody here on this board has to pay a total of 30,000 dollars in federal income tax for 2016. Now, there's not one person here who would say "Yeah, I think I'll cut the check instead" if their tax advisor said you legally don't owe anything due to whatever reason. Nobody would. It kinda works like this: Nobody minds hearing that someone else is doing well. But nobody wants to hear that somebody else is doing better than they are.
    No one on the board has spent their whole life boasting about how rich they are now that Flappo has gone.

    No one on the board is running for president.

    It's just not teneble to be the head of state of a country and expect people to pay taxes when you haven't.

    Unless you are a queen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Unless you are a queen...
    Let it go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    No one on the board has spent their whole life boasting about how rich they are now that Flappo has gone.

    No one on the board is running for president.

    It's just not teneble to be the head of state of a country and expect people to pay taxes when you haven't.

    Unless you are a queen...
    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    No one on the board is running for president.
    You sure about that? I bet Gary Johnson is "thome."

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    When you donzilla pay more tax than Donald "I've been very successful " trump it's a fucked up system.
    Just saying ,don't want to upset any none liberals
    Perhaps. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. But The Donald didn't write the tax laws. I was t saying it was right, just that it's kinda hypocritical for people in the media to run around crying about it when they'd do the exact same thing without exception.

    And Sesh - The Donald wasn't running for prez when he took the loss that would have allowed him to offset his tax liability for apparently 37,000 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    You sure about that? I bet Gary Johnson is "thome."
    Possible but I think thome has heard of Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I know, it sounds horrible, right? But let's say you became the Vodka King of Scotland and three years from now you take almost a billion dollar hit to your Vodka Empire. Now, your tax laws say you can basically write that off your tax liability for the next however many years. I doubt you're gonna turn that down. I wouldn't.

    Anyway, I'd vote for the town drunk who sleeps on the steps of the local Post Office before I'd vote for Hill Dawg.

    All I can think about now is having a vodka empire and it's making me tumescent.

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