Dave 'I'm in...'

[twonabomber]

No way they can just tour for the hell of it. Not in sheds, not the way the last tour sold, and even that was in support of the live album. There's a big drop down from 17,000 seat sheds and arenas, unless they put the stage in the middle of an arena floor and only made seats in front of the stage available. Or even tarp off the upper deck.

I don't even know if I'd be interested in a show where they played Fair Warning in it's entirety, with a shorter set of hits on either end. I doubt they'd cuntsider a tour like that anyways.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

It kills me that the writer thinks that saying nothing to fans and signing 2 guitars over 9 months counts as being busy.

You guys probably know this already, but that is Leslie, aka "Greeneyedmurder", who went to the Cafe Wha? show with WARF.....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

No way they can just tour for the hell of it. Not in sheds, not the way the last tour sold, and even that was in support of the live album. There's a big drop down from 17,000 seat sheds and arenas, unless they put the stage in the middle of an arena floor and only made seats in front of the stage available. Or even tarp off the upper deck.

I don't even know if I'd be interested in a show where they played Fair Warning in it's entirety, with a shorter set of hits on either end. I doubt they'd cuntsider a tour like that anyways.

I've been saying this for a while, but I think they should seriously consider teaming up with another band if they were to tour again....

Now, who would that be? Haven't given it that much thought, but it would have to get through the DLR/EVH/AVH ego machine....

[Seshmeister]

You guys probably know this already, but that is Leslie, aka "Greeneyedmurder", who went to the Cafe Wha? show with WARF.....

I didn't but either way it was kind of a silly line...

[Seshmeister]

I don't even know if I'd be interested in a show where they played Fair Warning in it's entirety, with a shorter set of hits on either end. I doubt they'd cuntsider a tour like that anyways.

Doing a full album is the fashion these days. I think if Wolfie said they were to do Fair Warning they would do it as recent years have confirmed he is definitely in charge of setlists.

[DONNIEP]

I've been saying this for a while, but I think they should seriously consider teaming up with another band if they were to tour again....

Now, who would that be? Haven't given it that much thought, but it would have to get through the DLR/EVH/AVH ego machine....

There can be only one: Winger

[vandeleur]

There can be only one: Winger

Wow ... Light bulb moment . You have a thing for podgy bass players

[DONNIEP]

Wow ... Light bulb moment . You have a thing for podgy bass players

Careful, baldy

[Satan]

I've been saying this for a while, but I think they should seriously consider teaming up with another band if they were to tour again....

Now, who would that be? Haven't given it that much thought, but it would have to get through the DLR/EVH/AVH ego machine....

The Sex Pistols will probably be touring at some point in the next year or two, as the 40th anniversary of "Never Mind the Bollocks" is 2017 (Doesn't that make you mortals feel old??)

That would be one HELL of a double bill. (bit of a historical footnote there: Noel Monk's last job before he worked for VH was as the road manager of the Sex Pistols US tour in early 1978)

They could even jam together......

[vandeleur]

Lyndon has very little interest in revisiting the pistols no matter how much is on offer, he is well into public image . Again.

[Satan]

Well, it's not like Johnny ever stays with one lineup for very long in any case, so this version of PiL is probably nearing the expiration date anyway.

[vandeleur]

Well, it's not like Johnny ever stays with one lineup for very long in any case, so this version of PiL is probably nearing the expiration date anyway.

He had catweasel playing guitar the last two times I seen them. Poor bloke only had two strings on his guitar for some songs.

[DLR Bridge]

I've been saying this for a while, but I think they should seriously consider teaming up with another band if they were to tour again....

Now, who would that be? Haven't given it that much thought, but it would have to get through the DLR/EVH/AVH ego machine....

About a year ago, I would have pitched a duel bill with AC/DC. Everyone in VH has praised them at some point in time. Now that all of this Axl crap is happening, I take them out of consideration.

[Satan]

They could always tour with Chickenshit and Extreme just for the comedic value.....

[Seshmeister]

About a year ago, I would have pitched a duel bill with AC/DC. Everyone in VH has praised them at some point in time. Now that all of this Axl crap is happening, I take them out of consideration.

At this point Van Halen would be support to AC/DC not duel.

Wouldn't make any sense financially anyway...

[Satan]

Which would be ironic since Van Halen at least has three of their 4 original band members, while Axl/DC is down to just one.

[DLR Bridge]

Which would be ironic since Van Halen at least has three of their 4 original band members, while Axl/DC is down to just one.

They don't have their original bass player anymore?

[Satan]

Cliff has been around since Powerage, so that's a long time. But they made 5 albums before him. Mark Evans played on most of the stuff before that, but on their first album, "High Voltage" they didn't really have a permanent bass player yet. Angus & Malcolm's older brother George (who produced the album) played on some of the tracks, and Malcolm played on others.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Cliff has been around since Powerage, so that's a long time. But they made 5 albums before him.

They'd made three albums before Powerage ('78), if you don't count the Aussie-only releases: High Voltage, Dirty Deeds and Let There Be Rock.

Just ask Bon Scott, he must be somewhere around in your place.

[Terry]

No way they can just tour for the hell of it. Not in sheds, not the way the last tour sold, and even that was in support of the live album. There's a big drop down from 17,000 seat sheds and arenas, unless they put the stage in the middle of an arena floor and only made seats in front of the stage available. Or even tarp off the upper deck.

I don't even know if I'd be interested in a show where they played Fair Warning in it's entirety, with a shorter set of hits on either end. I doubt they'd cuntsider a tour like that anyways.

I was unaware the last tour sold poorly. I knew that tickets in my area were available pretty much up until the day of the show, which wasn't the case in 2008. The played a different venue in 2015 than the one they did in 2008 and 2012, but the capacity was the same. Maybe they were playing secondary markets elsewhere on the 2015 tour. Maybe overall sales were soft in 2015: once I decided I wasn't bothering to go, I stopped paying attention.

About the only thing the band could do that would virtually guarantee good attendances in 20,000 seaters would be to get Anthony back in the group and announce a farewell tour with the CVH lineup. Short of that, I don't really see what they can do with the current lineup they have to reach that goal. A new album by the current band, even if it was a good one, isn't going to get them there. The last album was really about as good as one could have expected (and turned out much better than I expected it to be), and it really didn't expand on their ability in terms of ticket sales or venue sizes.

[Satan]

They'd made three albums before Powerage ('78), if you don't count the Aussie-only releases: High Voltage, Dirty Deeds and Let There Be Rock.

Just ask Bon Scott, he must be somewhere around in your place.

Dirty Deeds & Let There Be Rock were released internationally, though with different cover art and a few track differences. The two Aussie only albums were the first two, "High Voltage" and "TNT". Atlantic Records combined tracks from these two when they released the international "debut" album, which was also titled "High Voltage", to add to the confusion.

The Aussie cover art was definitely better on "High Voltage" "Dirty Deeds" was probably a draw. But the Atlantic version of "Let There Be Rock" definitely had better cover art than the Aussie version. Even if they fucked up the record by leaving "Crabsody In Blue" off the album....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

About the only thing the band could do that would virtually guarantee good attendances in 20,000 seaters would be to get Anthony back in the group and announce a farewell tour with the CVH lineup.

I would agree with that Terry....

But back on my previous point, perhaps a twinbill lineup with VH and someone like Aerosmith, alternating headlining shows, would do the trick as well.... I don't think Aerosmith is packing them in nowadays as well.....

[Satan]

Don't VH and Aerosmith really hate each other though? I seem to remember something about bad blood from the 70s.... and then there was the incident in the mid 90s, where Aeroshit's manager was supposed to manage Van Hagar (at Sammy's invitation). Dude met Eddie right when was going through one of his head shaving meltdown phases and said "Fuck it! I can't possibly deal with this guy AND Steven Tyler".

Which of course, left them vulnerable to be picked off by Ray Danniels, and the rest is history....

Besides, last I heard, Tyler was trying to launch his solo "country" career and Aeroshit was threatening to tour with a scab singer. Sounds like they would be more suited to open for Axl/DC if that's the case.

[Terry]

I would agree with that Terry....

But back on my previous point, perhaps a twinbill lineup with VH and someone like Aerosmith, alternating headlining shows, would do the trick as well.... I don't think Aerosmith is packing them in nowadays as well.....

You know, I don't really see a twin bill lineup with Van Halen and a band of equal (or better) drawing power such as Aerosmith happening.

Personally, such a bill would probably be the only way I'd go to see another Van Halen show, but Van Halen has always opted to tour with bands that have no chance of upstaging them.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

You know, I don't really see a twin bill lineup with Van Halen and a band of equal (or better) drawing power such as Aerosmith happening.

Personally, such a bill would probably be the only way I'd go to see another Van Halen show, but Van Halen has always opted to tour with bands that have no chance of upstaging them.

Oh, I didn't say I saw it actually happening.... I think if they were smart, they'd seriously consider it....

But then again, we all know who we're talking about....

[Terry]

Oh, I didn't say I saw it actually happening.... I think if they were smart, they'd seriously consider it....

But then again, we all know who we're talking about....

Well, Van Halen from 1996 onward hasn't really made a bunch of sensible or logical moves career-wise, to be sure.

Then again, the value of the band/brand name is such that they don't really HAVE to.

Also, the band are clearly closer to the end of their career than they are to the beginning of it. As such, it may make more sense financially for the band to keep plodding along like they are as headliners than split the take with a band of equal billing status.

But I don't even really get the sense that there is a "they" in "if they were smart": the group currently have seemingly got along well enough to do three tours and a couple of albums together in the last ten years, but I don't think there is quite the sense of cohesion or purpose in any of what has transpired in the last decade that there was from 1974 to 1984. Dave needs to front Van Halen if he wants to play large venues, and the Van Halens eventually needed Roth because the last go-around with Hagar didn't end on good terms and getting a 4th singer wasn't an option any promoter was going to give them a sizeable guarantee on.

[78/84 guy]

Cliff has been around since Powerage, so that's a long time. But they made 5 albums before him. Mark Evans played on most of the stuff before that, but on their first album, "High Voltage" they didn't really have a permanent bass player yet. Angus & Malcolm's older brother George (who produced the album) played on some of the tracks, and Malcolm played on others.

Marks book is the best I've read about AC/DC. Great stuff about the early days of the band nobody else will ever write. I think it's time some of these bands call it a day. Sure you get glimpses off what the once were but........honestly it's mostly the singers that do them in live. They just don't have the vocals anymore. This whole Axl /DC is almost pathetic. I like that he wanted too do it but man is his voice shot. Why Slash wanted anything too do with him is beyond me ? Paycheck I guess. Same reason other bands won't stop I guess.

[Jetstream]

Marks book is the best I've read about AC/DC. Great stuff about the early days of the band nobody else will ever write. I think it's time some of these bands call it a day. Sure you get glimpses off what the once were but........honestly it's mostly the singers that do them in live. They just don't have the vocals anymore. This whole Axl /DC is almost pathetic. I like that he wanted too do it but man is his voice shot. Why Slash wanted anything too do with him is beyond me ? Paycheck I guess. Same reason other bands won't stop I guess.

I am not a fan of Axl fronting AC/DC because he is the voice of Guns N Roses... but come on man, I have heard Axl recently with both bands and his voice still sounds great in my opinion regardless of his character

[78/84 guy]

I am not a fan of Axl fronting AC/DC because he is the voice of Guns N Roses... but come on man, I have heard Axl recently with both bands and his voice still sounds great in my opinion regardless of his character

Get your ears checked.