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    Another cynical moment from the defense occurred when, during the testimony of another expert witness - accomplished musician, musical director and producer Robert Mathes - Anderson requested the court play a 2012 video from the Kennedy Center Honors tribute segment to Led Zeppelin. Mathes - who's worked with everyone from Sting to Yo-Yo Ma - had been the musical director for this performance, a cover of "Stairway" by the rock group Heart featuring Jason Bonham on drums. The primary relevance of the video, however, seemed to be an attempt to impart the prestige of President Obama and the First Lady, who appeared in many audience reaction shots solemnly rocking out to "Stairway." Judge Klausner quickly put the kibosh on this gambit, ruling that only the audio portion of the song could be played to the jury.

    As its primary expert witness testifying to the musical similarities between the Spirit and Led Zeppelin compositions, the defense called Dr. Lawrence Ferrara, a full professor of music and "director emeritus" at NYU and an esteemed musicologist with an impressive list of music-legend clients - Billy Joel, Paul McCartney, Elton John, Marc Anthony, Enrique Iglesias, Lady Gaga, Gloria Estefan, Bruce Springsteen, Brad Paisley, Jay Z, Usher, Dr. Dre, Kanye West, Eminem, Prince and James Brown among them.

    On the stand, Ferrara made a sophisticated analysis as to why "Stairway to Heaven" did not plagiarize "Taurus." However, his academic approach proved confusing, and at times patronizing; when asked about his credentials, Ferrara bragged about owning all 29 editions of the Grove Dictionary of Music and stated, "I have authored or co-authored three books, one of which is in its fifth edition."

    Ferrara's contribution to the case came off as more collegiate lecture than testimony, as he faced the jury directly while playing piano to demonstrate his analyses. Judge Klausner had to remind the defense more than once to move on to another question whenever Ferrara veered into topics unprovoked by inquiry. Ferrara proved testy and defensive in cross-examination by Malofiy - who raised an objection to his time on the stand as "pre-planned [and] not testimony." (Curiously, indeed, exhibits of evidence supplied by counsel would appear on video screens just as Ferrara was making points supported by them.)

    Amusingly, Ferrara was almost interrupted at one point by a lookie-loo who had wandered into the courtroom with a Fender Stratocaster, likely hoping for an autograph from Page; said lookie-loo was quickly dispensed from the courtroom by a bailiff.

    Ferrara's arguments proved most compelling - and potentially damning for the plaintiffs - when he played the sheet music for "Taurus" followed by a performance of the beginning of "Stairway to Heaven"; to the ear, his renditions did sound "dramatically different," as he noted repeatedly. Ferrara went on to play more "prior art" compositions with similar chromatic lines to "Taurus" and "Stairway" - demonstrating his point that the musical "building blocks" shared by them are not protectable intellectual property, but commonplace throughout music.

    However, the similarities he demonstrated between "Stairway" and the Antônio Carlos Jobim composition "How Insensitive" and Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart's standard "My Funny Valentine" made it seem as if Jobim and the estates of Rodgers and Hart might want to call their attorneys.

    As such, another example of "prior art" Ferrara invoked was the Modern Folk Quartet's 1963 version of the public-domain Appalachian folk traditional "To Catch a Shad." When Ferrara played the first part of "Stairway to Heaven" followed by "To Catch a Shad" on the piano, it proved one of the trial's most startling revelations yet: it was almost impossible to tell them apart - they sounded like the exact same song.

    The tactic was intended to demonstrate the unoriginality and ordinariness of the musical techniques shared by "Taurus" and "Stairway" - that they can be found utilized in music compositions in many forms and genres going back hundreds of years. Instead, Ferrara's example may not have been received as intended. To some ears, it suggested another possibility - that Led Zeppelin had no qualms bogarting whole chunks of preexisting compositions in the songwriting process that led to "Stairway."

    Jimmy Page faced an hours-long grilling on the second day of the "Stairway to Heaven" copyright infringement trial.




    [/B]Led Zeppelin 'Stairway' Trial Gets Ugly as Plaintiffs Rest Their Case[/b]


    John Paul Jones debunks longstanding myths, while the defense tries, and fails, for a "Gotcha!" moment


    The Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven" trial got ugly in its fourth day as the defense tried, and failed, for a "Gotcha!" moment. Mona Shafer Edwards

    The surviving members of Led Zeppelin squashed one of the group's most established and enduring mythologies when the band's bassist/keyboardist/songwriter John Paul Jones took the stand in day four of the copyright infringement suit "Michael Skidmore vs. Led Zeppelin et al."

    It was a rare public reunion for Jones and his former bandmates, Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, with Jones appearing as a witness to support Led Zeppelin's defense in the case involving similarities between Zep classic "Stairway to Heaven" and "Taurus," an instrumental composition from the Sixties-era rock band Spirit.


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    Apparently, the defense team had concluded no one on the jury is a loyal reader of Mojo: Jones' appearance served mainly to quash the narrative, faithfully recounted for nearly five decades, of how Page and Plant came back from the Bron-Yr-Aur cottage in the Welsh mountains with the beginnings of "Stairway to Heaven" to play to the rest of Led Zeppelin - a surprising assertion Page had also made under oath on Thursday.

    In his cross-examination with the plaintiff's counsel Francis Malofiy, Jones was confronted with the playback of an audio recording of a 1972 BBC interview where he stated, "We were all in the country at Headley Grange when [Page and Plant] came back from the Welsh mountains with a guitar intro, verse and maybe more [of "Stairway to Heaven]." Under oath, Jones disputed the veracity of his earlier claims: "It sounded like I was guessing. I was guessing."


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    Jones was also grilled as to how Led Zeppelin came to play the Spirit song "Fresh-Garbage" - built largely around a prominent bass part - as part of the group's earliest live sets. "I forgot who introduced it - I can't remember," Jones testified. "It was a two-bar bass riff that popped out from somewhere. It was a catchy little riff, had an interesting time thing and it caught my ear. I didn't know where it was from."

    Jones also claimed that he thought all of the cover songs played by Led Zeppelin in its famed early tour of Scandinavia billed as the "New Yardbirds" were "all Yardbirds songs." When asked if he'd ever seen Spirit live, he claimed that, in the late Sixties and Seventies before the composition and recording of "Stairway," he'd never "gone to any rock concerts, other than playing with Led Zeppelin."

    Malofiy's cross examination of Jones also represented the end of the plaintiff's time to plead its case to the court, having used up all 10 hours allotted by the judge presiding over the federal civil trial, Gary Klausner. With several defense witnesses remaining on the docket - including, potentially, Page's co-defendant, Zeppelin frontman Robert Plant - Judge Klausner made an unusual exception: Malofiy would be allowed to cross-examine all of Led Zeppelin's witnesses for just 10 minutes each.

    The numbers that came out of the testimony of Dr. Michael Einhorn, a Yale-educated economist who appeared as an expert witness for the plaintiff side, were also tantalizing. In his analysis, Einhorn revealed Page, Plant, Jones and the heirs of drummer John Bonham split £58.5 million across all 87 songs in the Zeppelin catalog in the three-year statutory period being hotly debated throughout the trial. However, Einhorn claimed the defense had not provided him with the "pro-rate technology" used to determine exactly how much of those monies came specifically from "Stairway" royalties.


    "You don't have to play to the jury" was an admonishment Judge Klausner bestowed on both sides' counsel throughout the day's proceedings. But the most astonishing example of that strategy came not from the notoriously hotheaded Malofiy, but Led Zeppelin main counsel Peter Anderson, whose patrician white-shoe countenance has been a defining feature of his defense. During Anderson's cross-examination of the trial's plaintiff, Michael Skidmore - the trustee of "Taurus" songwriter Randy "California" Wolfe's estate - Anderson asked Skidmore if "it made a difference to [Wolfe's mother] Berenice Pearl if [Wolfe's only surviving heir] Quinn Wolfe [was cut out of receiving royalties] because he was the illegitimate son of Randy Wolfe?"

    It was a "gotcha!" moment that backfired - more expected coming from, say, a trial in Game of Thrones or an old episode of Days of Our Lives. It provided perhaps the ugliest moment of a contentious trial, and was quickly ruled as legally inadmissible by Judge Klausner.
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    I think we already had a thread about this.

    I know Led Zepplin ripped off a lot of stuff but to my ear this lawsuit is total BS.
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    Kristy, dear,

    I would like to stop in Colorado before I return to the UK. I have something for you.

    Best,
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    I would have thought she would be far far too old for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I would have thought she would be far far too old for you...
    It's cool hers will be a nice new freshly made one
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    Now that's just wrong....

    You know Page is her dad, right?

    I mean he's not Trump, for fucks sake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Now that's just wrong....

    You know Page is her dad, right?
    Is he her dad or her baby daddy? Jimmy likes them young.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I think we already had a thread about this.

    I know Led Zepplin ripped off a lot of stuff but to my ear this lawsuit is total BS.
    Your total BS.

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    Never found the part about Jimmy eating raw dick in the courtroom. Do they sell ready to bake dick dough over there in England?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Never found the part about Jimmy eating raw dick in the courtroom. Do they sell ready to bake dick dough over there in England?
    No, they sell it in cans.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    No, they sell it in cans.....

    That's not raw dick. That's ready to eat dick.

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    What do they call potted meat there? I heard a rumor it's made from dick too.

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    Who knows? Who knows anywhere.

    I think that european rules on meat are stricter than the USDA judging by some of the shit that goes on in burger chains in the US that would never be allowed here.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...hamburger-meat

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    Quit your bitching, Euro trash.



    Page is gonna get suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuued!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Quit your bitching, Euro trash.



    Page is gonna get suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuued!
    Pity you're not saving for that op or you could buy a new keyboard that one seems brooooke

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    Justice hahahaha

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    Greetings, friends and well-wishers.

    Justice has prevailed. Kristy, get ready to squeeze my lemon. I'll arrive there before midnight. A package will be delivered to you shortly. Please be properly attired before my arrival.

    All my love,

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    I'm so fucking pissed off right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    I'm so fucking pissed off right now.
    .....
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    You above everyone else can go fuck themselves. NO JUSTICE was served today.


    These fucking limey pirates.

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    Go shove your suburban videos right up your suburban cunt slave FORD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    I'm so fucking pissed off right now.
    What are you going to do, put out a hit on the jury?
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    That "jury" was bought off, poor boy. Biggest travesty of justice since the O.J. Trial.

    Yes, it was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    I'm so fucking pissed off right now.
    Never pays to be angry at inanimate things there sweetheart. You die young that way.
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    YES! Not Guilty! Congrats to a TRUE icon and my friend Jimmy Page. The Song Remains The Same!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    I'm so fucking pissed off right now.
    Dearest Kristy,

    I believe the youths today would say

    u mad, bro?

    All my love,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    You above everyone else can go fuck themselves. NO JUSTICE was served today.


    These fucking limey pirates.
    Oh shut up you pseudo-twat. Variations of the riff has been around since medieval times. Zep stole a lot, but not STH...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Oh shut up you pseudo-twat. Variations of the riff has been around since medieval times. Zep stole a lot, but not STH...
    Gee, thanks for another Wiki update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Oh shut up you pseudo-twat. Variations of the riff has been around since medieval times. Zep stole a lot, but not STH...
    Zep's my favorite band of all time by far but I think Jimmy did use parts of that riff in Stairway but figured he changed it enough to make it his own. I believe Page even used that explanation when asked about some of the old blues tunes that were obviously the basis for some of Zep's early hits like Whole Lotta Love and The Lemon Song. Haven't heard the reason the jury aquitted Page yet but I assume it's because of what a small part of the entire song that part of a riff was.

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    The Lemon Song was considerably more than a riff. It was a full on cover version of a Howlin Wolf song (with the whole "squeeze my lemon" bit being the only original lyrics added to the song)


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    And the irony about that one, is that if Jimmy thought he was going to be able to fool the white rock fans who didn't know their blues history, by claiming that song was his, he picked the wrong song there as Cream and Jimi Hendrix had already covered it. Truth be told, I always liked Jimi's cover better than Zeppelin's....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Gee, thanks for another Wiki update.
    Try CBS News, dummy...

    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Zep's my favorite band of all time by far but I think Jimmy did use parts of that riff in Stairway but figured he changed it enough to make it his own. I believe Page even used that explanation when asked about some of the old blues tunes that were obviously the basis for some of Zep's early hits like Whole Lotta Love and The Lemon Song. Haven't heard the reason the jury aquitted Page yet but I assume it's because of what a small part of the entire song that part of a riff was.
    The Chord Progression goes back to the 1600's and is nearly identical to both songs...

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    Well, of course the song dates back to 1600.... because SATAN actually wrote the song!

    Seriously, Page & Plant have both said in previous interviews, that neither of them can remember exactly where the song came from, it just sort of arrived "out of nowhere" as they were sitting in front of a fireplace in some mountain cabin.

    And of course, old Lucifer made sure he got his full credits for writing the song.... at least if you played the record backwards. Though apparently Satan wrote his part in a toolshed....


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